iPod

[Fran441]

What do you think of this little device? Fun, cool, overpriced? Post it here!

[Logan Cale]

Fun, cool, and overpriced.

But I'm still gonna get one anyway. :p
I have yet to try one, but everyone I hear that's tried one says they're wonderful.

<must get hands on iPod!>

[Fran441]

I'd buy one if I had the money, and more Mp3s. Since I don't have a radio in my car, it would be perfect, but I don't think I can find $400 for music on my ride in the morning.

[DoctorGonzo]

Fun, Useful, Overpriced.

[cdhostage]

Fun, Useful, I'm getting one. AI is back! WoohooQ

[macway]

Simply great! And not overpriced at all, look around at alternatives (that don't suck totally) and perhaps first and foremost at Sony's new Minidisc that comes with a tag of about $400, I believe it was.

[Cipher13]

Useful as a HD.

OVERPRICED like crazy (not relative to the cost of the drive, but nonetheless).

I think it'll sound pretty shitty too.

[macway]

It doesn't sound "shitty", the sound and phones are great.

[Fran441]

I've yet to hear it. I went to the Apple Store in Peabody, MA, but I didn't see one on display. No one to ask to see it either.

I can't wait to try it out though. Maybe sometime this week.

[iDude]

I don't have one, but my friend does. It's awesome. Everyone I've talked to says it's worth the $$$. It sounds great. Looks great. is super easy to use, breakout rocks! Can't wait til my bday in a month!

[applenut]

[quote]Originally posted by Cipher13:
<strong>Useful as a HD.

OVERPRICED like crazy (not relative to the cost of the drive, but nonetheless).

I think it'll sound pretty shitty too.</strong><hr></blockquote>

:rolleyes:

[Fran441]

applenut, are you getting one to go with that sweet new PB G4?

[applenut]

Yea, as soon as I get rid of the debt caused by the Powerbook :)

[gordy]

I went to the Cincinnati Apple Store last weekend, and I played with the iPod. I had previously stated that I would buy one, but now I don't know. Hell, I might, but after seeing one up close the glamour has faded a little.

[Fran441]

Wow, someone who's not buying an iPod because they saw it! :eek:

[EmAn]

When I was at Tice's Corner I got to see one but not try it out. It's so cool looking. It looks even cooler in person than in pictures and in cemercials.

[Fran441]

How did you get to see it, though. Did you have to ask to see it, or did they have it on display?

[Mandricard]

I saw one...

I held it in my hand, Mrs. Murphy,
and it only weighs a quarter of a pound...

It took an inhuman act of will to keep my wallet in my pocket. I do not know how long I can hold out...

Mandricard
AppleOutsider

[Fran441]

Where did you see it?

[maximawoo]

Damn Apple for making such cool products. Hopefully Tekserve will have one to play around with tomorrow.

[Nebagakid]

They have a store front dispaly, but the actualy iPod (I was at Tysons Corner) is bar near the Genious Bar on a pedistal. I overheard some Apple Store employees asking if anyone customer ask the other to hear how the other MP3 players sounded. They each replied no and said they each sold like 3 or 5 ones.

I already have mine, They are fun....that is really the word to describe them. It is like iTunes, but on the road. The only problem is you can't make playlists on da' Pod and when you have a really long song (like a Paul Oakenfold techno song), it is is really annoying to have to hold down the fast forward/next track button becuase it goes to slow. I wish you held down the enter or next track buttons while moving the jog wheel, it go through each song faster. :(

Also, no onscreen help OR directions on how to use it at the Apple Store. I overheard two people fumbling over the controls and eventually got it, but it would have been easier if there had been a map on how to use it!

That is my experience with the iPod. It is fun! :) :D :p ;)

[MichiganMac]

Cool device, very nice, too expensive for the average person. We've sold 4 of them, and they've all been to people who own their own companies and doctors. I want one, and music is a big part of my life, but I'm not spending $400 for one.

[ThinkInsane]

I've talked to a couple of peopele that have bought them, and they seem very happy with it. I think I will wait a while though. Since I lost a couple of thousand mp3's in an unfortunate reformatting accident, I haven't made too big an effort to rebuild my collection.

[apple.otaku]

[quote]Originally posted by Nebagakid:

<strong>
Also, no onscreen help OR directions on how to use it at the Apple Store. I overheard two people fumbling over the controls and eventually got it, but it would have been easier if there had been a map on how to use it!
</strong>
<hr></blockquote>

Maybe that's the point. Its so easy to use anyone can figure it out after fiddling with it a bit? As far as the fast forward goes they probably designed it specifically for single handed operation.

apple_otaku

[Horned_Frog]

I want one *badly* but am hoping within the year they will come out with one with a 10 gig HD...5 gig isnt quite enough for my iTunes (well once I get all my favorite songs imported :D ) I have about a third of my CD collection on iTunes, and am already nearing 3 GB just on my favorite songs...SO...would like a larger HD, even if it shoots the price up $100.

[apple.otaku]

[quote]Originally posted by Cipher13:

<strong>Useful as a HD.

OVERPRICED like crazy (not relative to the cost of the drive, but nonetheless).

I think it'll sound pretty shitty too.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Someone already took one apart and it does indeed use the same Toshiba PCMCIA HD card that Toshiba sells direct for $399. With the iPod you not only get that but an MP3 player to boot, and a very nice one at that. Why would it sound shitty? The MP3 format isn't exactly audiophille quality but why would the iPod have terrible sound compared to other MP3 players?

apple_otaku

[Cosmo]

[quote]Originally posted by ThinkInsane:
<strong> Since I lost a couple of thousand mp3's in an unfortunate reformatting accident, I haven't made too big an effort to rebuild my collection.</strong><hr></blockquote>

And by rebuilding your collection you mean re-rippng all the CDs you have purchased, because we all know that apple doesn't want us stealing music.

;)

I would get an ipod if i had the money...and a firewire port...but i have neither

I've been looking into getting a Nomad IImg with a 128meg smart card. The total price woudl be cheaper than the new MDLPs and it would hold almost as much, in a package that is smaller than the MD.

anyone care to comment on this product?

[jeffyboy]

I would so instantly order one at $300.

It seems like the perfect mp3 player, but I don't think anyone could come up with music-only features that could get me to pay any more, and I don't need a portable harddrive.

Jeff

[Max8319]

actually, with a good pair of headphones (though the supplied ones are good for ear buds), my ipod sounds awesome.....as long as you use grado's, it sounds great. believe me, it's worth getting grado sr-60's. people who have complained about bass need to use them. they solved the initial problems i had.

GET THE GRADO's!

[Red Hot Ryan]

Nice, it has breakout, and as it is of a HD, it takes time to spin up sometimes. Otherwise, I love the little guy.

[Red Hot Ryan]

Oh, and I saw mine at the Santa Rosa, CA CompUSA hooked up to 4 speakers. Go now!

[chromos]

It's fun and cool, and not overpriced (seeing as how buying one instantly killed my TiBook lust, I consider it a bargain!).

It's amazingly stylish. I don't know if they meant it to turn out this way, but the combination of stainless steel and white plastic makes it look like it belongs in a kitchen. It doesn't look like a tech machine at all. Actually, now that I write that, I bet that Apple did want a non-tech impression -- definitely lowers people's apprehensions about using one.

All in all, we are seeing the fruit of Apple engineering firing on all cylinders. 2002 looks like it's going to be a great year!

[macway]

... could be that everything cool came out in 2001 too, the engineers working too hard... :p

[torifile]

I haven't had the chance to see one yet (does Circuit Shitty have them?) but I would love one. I've been thinking about getting an external HD for my ibook because I'm getting cramped with the 10GB installed (2.5 gigs of mp3 will do that to a small drive) and if I got it, I'd get an real extra 5 gb of storage because I'd get the mp3s off my HD. But it is a little on the expensive side. I can't really justify the purchase. Is it worth the $400? Yes. Can I afford the $400? Maybe. When that's a Yes, I'll get one. :)

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[Trekkie]

I love my little iPod! ;)

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[gnuami]

I love it, I have one as of today. However everybody I talked to with one seems to agree on one thing, our mp3 collections or favorite mp3s mysteriously take up more than 4.6 GB after the iPod was introduced.

[iPoop]

It is incredibly overpriced. What is it, the Nomad Jukebox or something sells for $200 and its only real disadvantage is USB takes longer than Firewire.

Are you people allergic to money or what?

[Strider]

I don't have one yet. I really want one though. I'll probably waituntil after Christmas and ge one then.

Strider

[SCARECROW]

Me Too...

I will be waiting til Xmas... My wife has strict instructions to get me one for my xmas present.....

I cant wait...

although, I am also going to be getting a new dual 800... soon... (but that is for work) the iPod is for play!

:p

[gordy]

My apprehension to buy is not based on whether I liked it after playing with it. I thought it was cooler in person than on the web. I mean, it's really the size of a deck of cards, smaller than a Rio 600 even.

Rather, my apprehension is because after looking at it closely I started seeing the future potential of this device. This device could mirror iTunes, Image Capture, and QuickTime Player easily. I think my $400 bucks will be better spent a few months from now, so I'll wait for rev. 2 or 3. In the meantime my Rio 600 will work for me.

[Mediaman]

The thing with the iPod is if you look at the cost of the parts it's not over priced, but it's just more than a lot of people are willing to spend on MP3 player. Most people have better/more important things to spend $399 on.

[apple.otaku]

[quote]Originally posted by iPoop:

<strong>It is incredibly overpriced. What is it, the Nomad Jukebox or something sells for $200 and its only real disadvantage is USB takes longer than Firewire.
</strong>
<hr></blockquote>

Yeah, try to stuff a Nomad Jukebox in your pocket and tell me that USB is the only difference. This has been beaten to death. The iPod is tiny so it must use a tiny PCMCIA size HD which is very expensive compared to the standard laptop HD used in the Nomard Jukebox and other similar devices. As an example, a 1GB IBM Microdrive costs around $350 yet you can get a 10GB laptop HD for less than half that amount. Why do you suppose that is? Toshiba sells the same HD used in the iPod for $399 direct. That's the same price as the iPod but with the iPod you get more than just the HD. You get a great MP3 player too. If you don't like the price just wait until they introduce the 10GB version of the iPod and the price of the 5GB version will drop.

apple_otaku

[apple.otaku]

[quote]Originally posted by Mediaman:

<strong>The thing with the iPod is if you look at the cost of the parts it's not over priced, but it's just more than a lot of people are willing to spend on MP3 player. Most people have better/more important things to spend $399 on.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Exactly! I'm waiting for the 10GB version so I can use half of the HD space to store my files and use a disc repair utility with it. Can't do that with a Nomad Jukebox. I figure the 10GB version will be introduced at the same $399 price as the original while the original will drop $50 to $100 at the time of its introduction.

apple_otaku

[Strider]

IMHO the iPod is not over priced. I agree it is expensive but those are two completly different things. Also you are paying for the ipod for the same reason you bought a Mac. You wanted style, ease of use, functionality. I for one love the iPod and am dying to get one.

Strider

[Arty50]

The market for the iPod is about to drastically increase.

<a href="http://www.mediafour.com/products/xpod/" target="_blank">Meet XPod.</a>

[Mandricard]

...Until Apple breaks the Windows functionality with the iPod "Maintenance update 1.1"

It would be so very Microsoft of them. :cool:

Mandricard
AppleOutsider

[dvd]

weee i bought mine, arrived yesterday (monday) <a href="http://homepage.mac.com/dvdevo/iMovieTheater2.html" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/dvdevo/iMovieTheater2.html</a>

i love it..too bad its not easy to listen to during class because you have to take the whole thing out.

[eat@me]

I would speculate that future versions of iPod will have mutiple purposes to not only include mp3 from iTunes but also short clips from iMovie or images. The name "iPod" implies a nuetral name which can have many uses. There can also be advanced screen to display images, UI, iTunes display, organizer?, etc. Can you imagine if this also had a airport card for wireless uplinks/downlinks like bluetoooth? or act as an electronic payment system? etc.

i also expect that the $399 tag is to get the hot and horny to pay more and then soon after in feb, decrease price to $299 maybe. i also expect that the firmware can be updated to support new and upgraded sw components.

if i were apple, i would be thinking about tying in every single "i" app into this or other new devices.

smart move i think. when chicks go shopping, they want to "accessorize". this
is apples way to accessorize around the shopping mall called digital hub.

[wormboy]

Birthday last week. iPod next week. :p

[Arty50]

[quote]Originally posted by Renoski:
<strong>I would speculate that future versions of iPod will have mutiple purposes to not only include mp3 from iTunes but also short clips from iMovie or images. The name "iPod" implies a nuetral name which can have many uses. There can also be advanced screen to display images, UI, iTunes display, organizer?, etc. Can you imagine if this also had a airport card for wireless uplinks/downlinks like bluetoooth? or act as an electronic payment system? etc.

i also expect that the $399 tag is to get the hot and horny to pay more and then soon after in feb, decrease price to $299 maybe. i also expect that the firmware can be updated to support new and upgraded sw components.

if i were apple, i would be thinking about tying in every single "i" app into this or other new devices.

smart move i think. when chicks go shopping, they want to "accessorize". this
is apples way to accessorize around the shopping mall called digital hub.</strong><hr></blockquote>

One thing the iPod gets little mention for is <a href="http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60920" target="_blank">this</a>.

[quote]Question 20: Can I use FireWire mode with noncomputer products?
Answer: Yes. First you will need to reset your iPod. When the Apple logo appears on the screen, hold down the Previous/Rewind button and the Next/Fast-forward button simultaneously until the FireWire icon appears. When you finish using iPod in this "forced" FireWire mode, disconnect and reset it again before normal operation.<hr></blockquote>

So basically you can hook your iPod directly into your DV Camcorder and whoila... 5 Gigs of extra storage space.

[EmAn]

[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
<strong>How did you get to see it, though. Did you have to ask to see it, or did they have it on display?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I saw it because one of the Apple Store employees had one out showing another customer and I walked over and he asked if I wanted to see it and play with it for a minute.

[Eugene]

iPoop, I consider this an advantage...

http://www.eugenechan.com:8888/albums/iPod/PB120082.sized.jpg

http://www.eugenechan.com:8888/albums/iPod/PB120084.sized.jpg

[Fran441]

Wow! <img src="graemlins/biggthumpup.gif" border="0" alt="[Thumbs Up]" />

[murbot]

Cool - nice pics Eugene. I had that phone so I know how small that thing is.

Thanks alot - now I HAVE to go buy one. :mad:

;)

[dvd]

ahhh nice pics eugene, my camera isnt that good... A sony trv 330 but thats all i have hehe.

http://homepage.mac.com/dvdevo/.Pictures/ipod1.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/dvdevo/.Pictures/ipod2.jpg

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[Zilch]

Why is it, that Microsoft is releasing XP worldwide on the same day and Apple can't do the same with the iPod, though it has already different languages on board???
On the first day the iPod was displayed in the German Apple Store Website I ordered one, but it is still being assembled...
:(

[/\ldie]

Cool pics, Eugene..
Didn't thought the iPod would be THAT small in real life. :eek:

Maybe I'll buy one after christmas.. when the price will probably come down a bit. <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />

[soulcrusher]

I'll be having mine tomorrow, can't wait :D

[dvd]

[quote]Originally posted by soulcrusher:
<strong>I'll be having mine tomorrow, can't wait :D </strong><hr></blockquote>

heheh you'll be excited.

[Solishu]

[quote]quote:


Question 20: Can I use FireWire mode with noncomputer products?
Answer: Yes. First you will need to reset your iPod. When the Apple logo appears on the screen, hold down the Previous/Rewind button and the Next/Fast-forward button simultaneously until the FireWire icon appears. When you finish using iPod in this "forced" FireWire mode, disconnect and reset it again before normal operation.



So basically you can hook your iPod directly into your DV Camcorder and whoila... 5 Gigs of extra storage space.<hr></blockquote>Nice catch Arty.... This is really cool people. The promise of firewire is starting to materialize with this sort of product....

[Eugene]

You can't just plug it into a DV cam and expect it to work with HFS+ though...

[macaddict]

The iPod is great and ingenious. Though it seems that it is using parts that are too new to be economically reasonable.

When it goes down to $249 or so next year it will be worth a spot on my Christmas list. Until then I'll be looking at the sleek little Sony units.

[tonton]

Check out the "sleek little Sony units":

http://www.sonystyle.com/images/medium/shots/nwms9.jpg
$299 (CHEAP!) Sony MW-NS9; About the size of a large cigarette lighter, it comes LOADED with a WHOPPING 64MB MagicGate™ Memory Stick® which gives you the ability to listen to a whole CD at 160kbps encoding rate or almost 2 CDs at 128kbps!!!

Or you can buy a huge 128MB MagicGate™ Memory Stick® for a super low $170 more !!! Then you could listen to FOUR WHOLE CDs without changing cards.

After your total cheap cost of only $470, to copy those four CDs worth of music, it will only take 10 fast minutes over the included lightning-quick USB connection!

And in case you were worried about PIRACY, you should note that Sony's Magic Gate™ technology includes anti-piracy circuitry Built-in!!!

Okay... try this one... the tiny one that is about the size of a MD remote controller:

http://www.sonystyle.com/images/medium/shots/nws4.jpg

64MB fixed memory WOW!. USB COOL!.

Note: Neither of these are supported on Mac.

Anyone else still think the Sonys are a good deal?

"Uh... $399 [with Firewire, 5GB, etc.] is too expensive so I'll buy this $270 one [with 64MB, USB, no Mac support] instead..." :rolleyes:

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[tonton]

One thing about Bad Flamingo's xsorbit server was that it was impossible to double post. Why can't UBB fix this one simple thing?

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