Is it possible to bring back an archive of all old posts?

[AppleMaster]

Mods:

Is it possible to archive all the old posts from a long time back? There was some valuable information there, and it would be great to the Mac community to have back.

Great job bringing the fourms back!

[applenut]

agreed. it's hard to consider AI "back" when all its history is lost

[Logan Cale]

Everything was lost, I believe.

[Jonathan]

its gone guys... we dont have it. If we had it, we'd have put it in.


sorry.

[King Chung Huang]

Actually, there may be a way of resurrecting some of the posts. For example, I've successfully acquired the old "QT - How do I save a stream..." thread (see the new thread <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=7&t=000002" target="_blank">here</a>).

I'll continue hacking away at this and see what I get. In the meantime, if anyone wants to see old threads, and happen to have a bookmark to it, post the address here. I'll see what I can do.

[Fran441]

I was afraid that had happened. :(

[EmAn]

Is there any way to get in touch with the guys that were running the Cube?

[AppleProphet]

Believe me, we have tried numerous times to get in touch with the people that were running the server (Cube), but they are.... ummm... "different". If you get ahold of them, it's something like

"Can you restart the Cube?" - us

"What's a Cube?" - them

You get the idea...

But whatever you're doing KCH, keep doing it. If we can find enough of them, we may be able to have a nice "Archive" or past posts or something like that.

[Dogcow]

Nevermind

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[Logan Cale]

Yeah, find my "NEW iBOOK" hoax. That was fun. :p

[Fran441]

Seriously, how do you do it?

[King Chung Huang]

I'm working on it...

I've dug up a sparse smattering of pages. Stick around for another 20 minutes or so, and I should start uploading them to my server.

I'll be recreating the raw directory structure of the old AppleInsider pages at <a href="http://commons.ucalgary.ca/king/appleinsider" target="_blank">commons.ucalgary.ca/king/appleinsider</a>. I don't know how much I'll be able to get, but everything I get will be there.

One question for everyone:
Would you like me to batch modify the links inside the posts so that links to other pages (eg: page 2 of a 3 page post) work, or would you like me to leave them "as is", frozen in time?

[King Chung Huang]

OK. I've just uploaded some pages from "Forum1". Forum1 appears to be Future Hardware. Again, visit <a href="http://commons.ucalgary.ca/king/appleinsider" target="_blank">commons.ucalgary.ca/king/appleinsider</a> to browse the stuff.

[Fran441]

That's awesome. Maybe you could work with the admins if you get enough of the old posts and topics to make archives here!

[King Chung Huang]

Well, there's about 228 pages from the old Future Hardware (Forum1) up now. I'll work on others later.

(edit: noted that Future Hardware is Forum1)

[ 11-12-2001: Message edited by: King Chung Huang ]</p>

[graphiteman]

King, I'd also like to know how you are doing this.

[Bogie]

When in doubt give it to Chung, he can find anything, even the people who own the cube and are silly enough to have it hosted with the people they did so that all this crap happened in the first place and now our history is lost can't find it ...

But Chung can. Long live Chung javascript: x()

[Logan Cale]

Can you find my keys, King Chung? :)

[King Chung Huang]

[quote]Originally posted by MacAgent:
<strong>Can you find my keys, King Chung? :) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Keys? I'm definetely not the right person to ask. In fact, I carry two sets of car keys around with me because I'm bound to either lock one in the car, or leave it behind at my office (really irritating when you've walked five minutes to the parking lot). ;)

[King Chung Huang]

Update! Take a look at <a href="http://commons.ucalgary.ca/king/appleinsider/cgi-bin/forumdisplay.cgi/CurrentHardware-06.04.2001.html" target="_blank">this blast from the past</a>. :)

Many of the links to the threads work, and the icons, logos, smilies, etc. have been restored.

Look for a big update across all the forums this evening.

[ 11-13-2001: Message edited by: King Chung Huang ]</p>

[Escher]

[quote]Originally posted by King Chung Huang:
<strong>Update! Take a look at <a href="http://commons.ucalgary.ca/king/appleinsider/cgi-bin/forumdisplay.cgi/CurrentHardware-06.04.2001.html" target="_blank">this blast from the past</a>. :) </strong><hr></blockquote>

King: Are you using the <a href="http://www.archive.org/index.html" target="_blank">Internet Wayback Machine</a>? You need to tell us how you work your magic.

Escher

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[Escher]

PS: King, I'm really impressed by the number of threads you've been able to resurrect so far. There's several of them with Kormac posts. Kickass! And thank you, keep up the good work!

Escher

[Jonathan]

KCH- We are very interested in how you're doing this. Pleaase continue your travails...

[King Chung Huang]

[quote]Originally posted by Escher:
<strong>

King: Are you using the <a href="http://www.archive.org/index.html" target="_blank">Internet Wayback Machine</a>? You need to tell us how you work your magic.

Escher

[ 11-13-2001: Message edited by: Escher ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yup. You got it. :) I recently saw a link to it on the NewtonTalk mailing list, and thought I'd give it a try. They've got a lot of the pages. I've finished going through and downloading everything they have. I'm just in the middle of batch processing them now so that images and links get linked up properly. I'll upload them to the server I've listed above later on today.

[Logan Cale]

Wow, that's incredible, KCH. I gasp in awe at your 1337ness. :)

[King Chung Huang]

Everything I download is processed and posted at <a href="http://commons.ucalgary.ca/king/appleinsider" target="_blank">commons.ucalgary.ca/king/appleinsider</a>. When I've got some time, I might work on making them more navigatable.

[graphiteman]

[quote]Originally posted by MacAgent:
<strong>Wow, that's incredible, KCH. I gasp in awe at your 1337ness. :) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Excuse my ingnorance, but, uh, 1337?

[Nebrie]

[quote]Originally posted by graphiteman:
<strong>

Excuse my ingnorance, but, uh, 1337?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think it means "cool"

[Logan Cale]

1337 = leet = elite = super duper extra cool ;)

[King Chung Huang]

:cool:

[King Chung Huang]

Well, I'm not getting anywhere tryinng to parse out the topic names, poster, and dates out of the pages. I haven't been able to come up with a grep search pattern in BBEdit to get that yet. Anyone have any ideas?

[macaddict]

Dude you are the man. I just read a thread I posted right before I went off to camp in SV. Ahh, those were the days.

I like the color scheme. I kinda miss it. Maybe I'll go make a suggestion.

[Escher]

King: Any progress on this project since Tuesday?

Jonathan: Are you planning on copying the pages recovered by King to appleinsider.com? I think that would be nice.

Escher

[King Chung Huang]

[quote]Originally posted by Escher:
<strong>King: Any progress on this project since Tuesday?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Sorry, I've been busy with another project and I haven't taken another look at parsing the threads. I'm planning on trying again this weekend.

[Escher]

[quote]Originally posted by King Chung Huang:
<strong>Sorry.</strong><hr></blockquote>

No need to be sorry, King. I figured real work had taken priority. That's how life goes. Just you know that all of us AI veterans really appreciate your efforts. You deserve a big thank you, even for what you've already achieved!

Escher

[Jonathan]

Definitely, Escher.

[SYN]

Wow. Amazing. Kudos KCH.

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[Escher]

OK, I just figured out that the URL for the first and original "2400 dreams" thread was

<a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001780.html" target="_blank">http://forums.appleinsider.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001780.html</a>

Unfortunately, the Wayback Machine doesn't have that one. :(

I was going through Forum 1, which was (and now again is) Future Hardware. Quite a few of the good Kormac threads are there. Kickass!

Now we just need to tranfer the files from King's server to the AI server and implement a searching mechanism of some sort.

Yeehah!

Escher

[macmonkey]

Does anyone know where the Cube with all the stuff is located at? Maybe someone is in that part of the country and could do something about it?

[EmAn]

[quote]Originally posted by macmonkey:
<strong>Does anyone know where the Cube with all the stuff is located at? Maybe someone is in that part of the country and could do something about it?</strong><hr></blockquote>

That's the problem, no one knows where the Cube is.

[Nick]

[quote]Originally posted by macmonkey:
<strong>Does anyone know where the Cube with all the stuff is located at? Maybe someone is in that part of the country and could do something about it?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I assure you if we ever found out where it is, there would be a raid on that facility :p

Sadly, the hosting company who had it, along with several other cubes, disappeared. Many people lost their entire websites. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />

[ 11-17-2001: Message edited by: Nick ]</p>

[Escher]

Any news on moving King Chung Huang's magic chef d'oevre over to the AI server?

If only there was a way to revive the old 2400 dreams thread. :(

Escher

[Paul]

Any more news on this subject?

I'd like to see what AI used to be like...

-Paul