Locking Threads

[The Rootwitch]

The mods seem to be locking lots of threads lately when there's no need. I agree with locking threads that are the same as others, but there are some that are funny that are getting locked.

[Amorph]

Examples?

[EmAn]

The threads that Jonathan, Amorph, and I have been locking lately have all had reasons to be locked. Please explain a little.

[Retrograde]

If anything, I feel the mods have been rather lenient.

[EmAn]

[quote]Originally posted by Retrograde:
<strong>If anything, I feel the mods have been rather lenient.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Thank you for sticking up for us mods. I think you're the first person who's said that recently.

[ 12-06-2001: Message edited by: EmAn ]</p>

[Retrograde]

[quote]Originally posted by EmAn:
<strong>

Thank you for sticking up for us mods. I think you're the first person who's said that recently.

[ 12-06-2001: Message edited by: EmAn ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Just calling it as I see it :)

[Jonathan]

We're letting a lotta shit slide...

so i don't understand.

[EmAn]

Jonathan, a lot of people here don't realize that.

[Jonathan]

I'd like to state that we, at the beginning, were very strict about certain things... chalk it up to rookie mistakes. We locked things when the discussion was over, .. Now, we're really trying to stay outta most things, unless something is really out of place or inappropriate.


I'll apologize for AI for our past behavior, but, we think we're doing a pretty good job in the present. If you disagree, please... give us feedback- we're very much happy to oblige and loosen up on things... if we're just not "getting it"...

[EmAn]

[quote]Originally posted by Jonathan:
<strong>I'll apologize for AI for our past behavior, but, we think we're doing a pretty good job in the present. If you disagree, please... give us feedback- we're very much happy to oblige and loosen up on things... if we're just not "getting it"...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Good idea. I think it'll be good hearing what the members have to say about the way we're all doing things.

[The Rootwitch]

Actually, I was a little harsh. Forgive me. There were a few threads that I didn't feel should be locked, which I don't remember. Disregard my criticism. ;)

[EmAn]

[quote]Originally posted by The Rootwitch:
<strong>Actually, I was a little harsh. Forgive me. There were a few threads that I didn't feel should be locked, which I don't remember. Disregard my criticism. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Don't worry about it. :)

[ 12-07-2001: Message edited by: EmAn ]</p>

[Eugene]

When I was a mod, I deleted double-posted topics and spammer posts and that was about it...but I wasn't a very good mod. :D

[Sinewave]

I don't know why people complain about locked threads. No one makes you post at a forum.. you don't own the forum. The people who own the site can even give you a 'iTool" status if they want. Usually forums are not democracies.

[Jonathan]

we're going for democracy, though...

[EmAn]

Jonathan's right. That's the best way to deal with things around here.

[Amorph]

Or at least, benevolent, uh, modocracy?

:)

Moderation in moderation is my motto.

[Sinewave]

So we'll get to vote if a topic gets locked or not? :)

[Jonathan]

hah.

no really, that was funny.

:rolleyes:

[Sinewave]

Well then it isn't a democracy :D

[Willoughby]

I'd like to say that I'm really happy that AI is back. So I'm not complaining but how about a little constructive criticism?

Why was the thread about a new laptop at MWSF locked? That seemed really interesting and I think it deserved its own thread. The original MWSF threads have gotten pretty stale and people aren't posting in them as much.

Same goes with the "Insane MWSF features". I thought that would have been an interesting discussion. I think there already was one along those lines, but that died too.
I don't see the harm in resurrecting a discussion in a new thread, especially if the ideas are fresh and the old thread is long gone.

Again, I'm not complaining. I'm super glad AI is back and I'd rather have 90% of the threads closed then have no AI at all. heh

But I thought I'd just add my 2 cents and a little criticism which can never hurt as long as its not destructive.

Thanks for listening guys :)

[Jonathan]

If you actually read the topics, they were worthless trolls not concerning FH at all...

[Willoughby]

[quote]Originally posted by Jonathan:
<strong>If you actually read the topics, they were worthless trolls not concerning FH at all...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Concerning "new laptop at MWSF" thread....

How was this person a "worthless troll"?? They stated something, concerning Future Hardware. Whether they were lying or not, knew what they were talking about or not, it still pertained to Future Hardware. It would have made for an interesting discussion.

Concerning "insane new features..."
That was clearly a joke. He was only trying to bring some humor to the thread. Fine, you closed it, fine it wasn't realistic enough for "Future Hardware" but again, this person did NOT deserve to be called a "worthless troll".

Ok, now I AM complaining. Whats up with you??? Thats just wrong. No one deserves to be called a troll for posting discussions ON TOPIC. We're not talking about MadTOOL or whoever that guy was. Geez.

Now you're threatening to close the thread on Angelina Jolie's lips?? WHY!? Too racey? It's Apple Outsider, I don't think that should be shut down. If someone said something inappropriate (dick maybe?) then maybe you should warn then against that language and not threaten to shut down the whole thread.

Please don't accuse me of not reading threads that I comment on, I wouldn't do that. :(

[Jonathan]

1. "New Laptop at MWSF"

I did not close this thread. General principle around here states that when a topic which is very vague, and has no information or discussion other than "You heard it here first :D " and it's someone's first post, it's generally nothing of substance. Scanning across FH, there are at least 5 other threads this little tidbit could have been posted in. Also, it seemed clear enough to other people that this was a troll to call for the locking of the thread- note the 2nd post therein.

2. "Insane new features" - The post is what is known as a troll, and it gave no value to the discussion. Therefore, I labeled the post, not the person, as a "worthless troll." Maybe you don't frequent any other forums, but note: this happens everywhere, and is common terminology. ArsTechnica, MacNN, etc.

3. The Angelina Jolie Lips thread was getting racy. When I said 'poised to lock' or whatever, it was my way of saying "clean it up a little guys." Dick Sucking Lips and all is funny, but we don't need to draw it out. Remember also that there are some *very* young children on this board, and that sort of thing is not really appropriate for them. I could have locked it, but I didn't. Not worth complaining about.

4. You think we're too strict? Go anywhere else. Anywhere (that doesn't suck) has an equally strict, if not stricter, rules about off topic posts.


:rolleyes:

[Willoughby]

Thanks for responding.

Actually I do frequent a lot of other boards and the term "troll" is almost always meant to signify a person, not a message.

I understand your reasoning for closing the threads a little better now, thanks for clearing that up.

However, I totally disagree with you telling the Jolie forum to be cleaned up when you yourself posted a smiley that was clearly performing a sex act in another thread!! That is out right contradiction.

I do find both discussions and posts really funny and I don't believe in censorship of any sort. I do agree that we have to be careful sometimes because we don't know what age some of the readers/posters are.

So I think you should admit that your smiley was inappropriate as well.

Thanks again for listening.

[Jonathan]

Yeah, the smiley was really out of taste... I was in an, err.. altered state at 2 am when i posted it... ;) :D