View Full Version : Finding Nemo will be Pixar's first bomb...
Bodhi
05-22-2003, 05:29 PM
Well I don't think it will bomb, it will most likely make money but there is just something off about the whole ad campaign and the characters. There definitely isn't the buzz around LA like there has been with the other Pixar movies and for some reason these characters do not look like they are very marketable...i.e. toys/stuffed animals, etc.
I think this may be the least successful of all of the films so far.
iBrowse
05-22-2003, 05:39 PM
I don't know about that. I know what you mean, there really isn't a huge demand for dolls of Fish, but it looks like a good movie. I plan on seeing it. I figure that if you have a good product, which I think they do, you can reach a great number of people in a good way. But I do know what you mean about all the hubub there was over Toy Story and Monsters Inc. it seems to be not as strong for this movie.
applenut
05-22-2003, 05:59 PM
well, when i first heard about Finding Nemo I thought it would be a bomb.... just didnt sound up to par with their other movies and the story seemed overly "kiddy"
the trailer and commercials arent exactly stellar but from them I am very intrigued by the movie. For one, the animation is top notch. It literally looks awesome. And second, I think there will be a lot of humor on two levels, only this time, the lower kiddy level humor wont be as funny to the older crowd as it was in TS 1/2 and Monsters Inc and A Bug's Life.
So, we'll see. Pixar seems to have the golden touch. I'll be there for the digital presentation.
BRussell
05-22-2003, 06:08 PM
No way. This is guaranteed to be huge. There is a vast market for these types of movies. It just can't possibly fail. It may or may not have the legs of a Toy Story - that will depend on the reviews and the audience response. But it will make 100 million in its first week before any of that settles in anyway.
BuonRotto
05-22-2003, 06:10 PM
I would expect it to come in around A Bug's Life, but not Toy Story 2 or anything that big. Apparently, some are worried because unlike Monsters, Inc. which catered more to kids' humor and something kids, especially young boys, were more into, this one might not appeal to them as much.
Also, unlike other Pixar films that came out around Thanksgiving, this one is coming out in the summer, in a season where last week's top-grossing movie is, well, last week's movie. I think it actually looks funnier to me than Monsters, Inc. was but I'm a grown-up so that might not be a good thing as far as Disney/Pixar is concerned.
Outsider
05-22-2003, 07:16 PM
I don't know. They huge hype of Matrix 2 and Terminator 3 are over shadowing any other good movie. In the end it'll depend on how good the movie actually is because if it IS good then the kids that watch it will go over and over again. It's the Titanic recipe. And what better time than in the summer when they (kids K-5) are off from school.
Eugene
05-22-2003, 07:36 PM
People tend to underestimate the power of "G" and the kids movie market in general.
Toy Story grossed $192M
Toy Story 2 grossed $246M
Monster's, Inc. grossed $256M
I don't expect anything less than $220M, which would mean a nice little profit for a film which cost less than $100M to make and $30M to advertise.
Also consider this. Finding Nemo will be Pixar's first film released in the Summer, which means more ticket sales. See Shrek vs Monsters, Inc., though there were other distinctions between those two movies too.
What totally blows me away is the rendering that they are doing "underwater", which they probably had to write their own software for---kinda like they way they had to do with Sulley's "hair." If I'm not mistaken this is another tour de force for at least the guys on the rendering farm.
As for the story----who knows----but it's gonna look like million dollars.
superkarate monkeydeathcar
05-22-2003, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Eugene
People tend to underestimate the power of "G" and the kids movie market in general.
Toy Story grossed $192M
Toy Story 2 grossed $246M
Monster's, Inc. grossed $256M
I don't expect anything less than $220M, which would mean a nice little profit for a film which cost less than $100M to make and $30M to advertise.
and remember kids pay half price and the majority of paid attendences are at matinee prices.
torifile
05-22-2003, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by superkarate monkeydeathcar
and remember kids pay half price and the majority of paid attendences are at matinee prices.
But think of all the kiddies in day care whose caretakers would love to be able to take them to a movie for a couple hours. Summer movies for kids are always a good idea.
Outsider
05-22-2003, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by superkarate monkeydeathcar
and remember kids pay half price and the majority of paid attendences are at matinee prices. Yeah but at least one adult has to take them ;)
BuonRotto
05-22-2003, 10:01 PM
FWIW, we have a group of young employees who are planning a "family night at the movies" thing for our office. Guess what movie we're going to see? :)
superkarate monkeydeathcar
05-22-2003, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Outsider
Yeah but at least one adult has to take them ;)
a) that's not true
b) and for the cases where it is true, the majority of attendence happens bsfore 6p.m. when most theatres offer lower prices, even for adults.
Aquafire
05-22-2003, 10:20 PM
On the plus side..
it could always be used to torture Iraqi prisoners of war !:D :lol:
Outsider
05-22-2003, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by superkarate monkeydeathcar
a) that's not true
b) and for the cases where it is true, the majority of attendence happens bsfore 6p.m. when most theatres offer lower prices, even for adults. You can say this of any kid-oriented movie, not just "Finding Nemo". What are you saying? This particular movie will NOT be as popular? I'll tell you something. The Matrix is doing WAY better than it would have if the economy was good. What do you think all my laid off friends do while waiting for interview calls? It's a golden age for movie makers! :)
superkarate monkeydeathcar
05-23-2003, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by Outsider
You can say this of any kid-oriented movie, not just "Finding Nemo". What are you saying? This particular movie will NOT be as popular? I'll tell you something. The Matrix is doing WAY better than it would have if the economy was good. What do you think all my laid off friends do while waiting for interview calls? It's a golden age for movie makers! :)
that was my point, if a children's movie does 200 million it's equivalent to a regular movie doing 300 million in terms of putting fannies in seats.
i didn't say how finding nemo would do. i'm looking forward to seeing it as are my children.
my point was simply when you look at children's movie grosses they have a disadvantage of having tickets that cost less. this makes the grosses listed from those movies listed even more fantastic!
i really think this will someday be looked at as the golden age of movies for children. i know it's better than when i was a kid. plus i think the quality of these movies has made attention span's longer. my 4 1/2 year old sat through "spirited away" which is over two hours.
Outsider
05-23-2003, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by superkarate monkeydeathcar
that was my point, if a children's movie does 200 million it's equivalent to a regular movie doing 300 million in terms of putting fannies in seats.
i didn't say how finding nemo would do. i'm looking forward to seeing it as are my children.
my point was simply when you look at children's movie grosses they have a disadvantage of having tickets that cost less. this makes the grosses listed from those movies listed even more fantastic!
i really think this will someday be looked at as the golden age of movies for children. i know it's better than when i was a kid. plus i think the quality of these movies has made attention span's longer. my 4 1/2 year old sat through "spirited away" which is over two hours. There's the point. You should have just said so. :)
superkarate monkeydeathcar
05-23-2003, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by Outsider
There's the point. You should have just said so. :)
it is what i said in my first post. eugene quoted the grosses for toy story, toy story 2, and monsters inc. and i added that most of the tickets bought weren't regular priced tickets.
Alex London
05-23-2003, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by Outsider
There's the point. You should have just said so.
He did. I am looking foward to seeing this film, all the cga films i've seen have been really excellent, intelligent films. (For this reason i avoided Dinosaur and Ice Age .) Pixar and Dreamworks have made some classic movies for kids and adults alike, not easy stuff.
edited to include outsiders quote.
superkarate monkeydeathcar
05-23-2003, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by Alex London
He did. I am looking foward to seeing this film, all the cga films i've seen have been really excellent, intelligent films. (For this reason i avoided Dinosaur and Ice Age .) Pixar and Dreamworks have made some classic movies for kids and adults alike, not easy stuff.
ice age is very good, very funny stuff, the dodo bird scene alone was worth price of admission. ("doom on you....doom on you") i can't speak on the nuances of animation in general, but i thought it looked real good.
Alex London
05-23-2003, 03:03 PM
OK, I was visited by the curse of the trailer for Ice Age, and the subsequent clips of it I saw but to be fair I have heard very positive things from from my sisters and their kids so will I stop being silly and rent it.
superkarate monkeydeathcar
05-23-2003, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by Alex London
OK, I was visited by the curse of the trailer for Ice Age, and the subsequent clips of it I saw but to be fair I have heard very positive things from from my sisters and their kids so will I stop being silly and rent it.
if you don't, well then......doom on you!
Alex London
05-23-2003, 03:59 PM
I trust your taste i promise i'll rent it:)
Eugene
05-23-2003, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by superkarate monkeydeathcar
it is what i said in my first post. eugene quoted the grosses for toy story, toy story 2, and monsters inc. and i added that most of the tickets bought weren't regular priced tickets.
That's why I didn't respond initially, because your post didn't really seem contentious...the core audience remains the same, so your post and mine don't really cross each other up.
The only change is the release date. All four of the previous Pixar movies were released after Thanksgiving, a less appealing window for pure money-making...reserved for Oscar contenders and seasonal flicks.
All things being equal, Finding Nemo should do better than any of the previous films, but I'm not one for bold predictions.
superkarate monkeydeathcar
05-23-2003, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by Eugene
That's why I didn't respond initially, because your post didn't really seem contentious...the core audience remains the same, so your post and mine don't really cross each other up.
The only change is the release date. All four of the previous Pixar movies were released after Thanksgiving, a less appealing window for pure money-making...reserved for Oscar contenders and seasonal flicks.
All things being equal, Finding Nemo should do better than any of the previous films, but I'm not one for bold predictions.
oh i'm never contentious.
i think it will fall between toy story 2 and monsters inc.
how much did "a bug's life" do? i can't ever find grosses anymore since imbd started its premium service.
Eugene
05-23-2003, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by superkarate monkeydeathcar
oh i'm never contentious.
i think it will fall between toy story 2 and monsters inc.
how much did "a bug's life" do? i can't ever find grosses anymore since imbd started its premium service.
A Bug's Life grossed $163M domestically...and that's probably why we haven't heard anything about a sequel. ;)
Dale Sorel
05-23-2003, 05:57 PM
I don't know, I saw a trailer for Nemo last week when I saw Reloaded. It made me LOL in the theater, something I don't often do.
I plan to see it soon after it opens :D
curiousuburb
05-23-2003, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by ena
What totally blows me away is the rendering that they are doing "underwater", which they probably had to write their own software for---kinda like they way they had to do with Sulley's "hair." If I'm not mistaken this is another tour de force for at least the guys on the rendering farm.
As for the story----who knows----but it's gonna look like million dollars.
underwater is far easier to render convincingly than anything except space
limited light source and expected depth cues underwater (ask a diver about visibility limits) mean you don't need to render everything compared to a shrek or toy story full of distant leaves on trees and a vanishing perspective which still demands detailed city models
i don't doubt pixar has written some brilliant new shaders for texturing, and probably coded some sharp new volumetrics and flocking systems for particles as well as fish, but all in all an underwater film is a lot simpler to pull off than an atmospheric flick
dstranathan
05-24-2003, 07:56 PM
As long as there aren't any fart-bubble jokes I will be happy. (sigh)
Outsider
05-24-2003, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by dstranathan
As long as there aren't any fart-bubble jokes I will be happy. (sigh) I think there is one. Heh. :)
zaphod_beeblebrox
05-24-2003, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by BRussell
No way. This is guaranteed to be huge. There is a vast market for these types of movies. It just can't possibly fail...
Agreed. Besides the terrific animation, Pixar's movies are great because they are story-driven. There are a lot (most?) of R-rated flicks that can't make that claim.
Pixar makes movies for everybody. Kids'll bug their parents to see it and parents will be more than happy to oblige. The writing is sort of like Rocky and Bullwinkle in the way it embeds humor aimed at the grownups in the audience. And I can already hear my 5-year-old niece getting all mushy over Nemo...
BuonRotto
05-25-2003, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by curiousuburb
underwater is far easier to render convincingly than anything except space
Is that true? I imagine that while you have relatively simple atmospheric perspective to deal with and more background in the air, in water, you have very different light refractions, space warps for simulated water currents, bubbles, and of course how water filters color, at least if you want to get nit-picky about it. :)
curiousuburb
05-26-2003, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by BuonRotto
Is that true? I imagine that while you have relatively simple atmospheric perspective to deal with and more background in the air, in water, you have very different light refractions, space warps for simulated water currents, bubbles, and of course how water filters color, at least if you want to get nit-picky about it. :)
the blur tool is your friend
BuonRotto
05-26-2003, 01:36 PM
Blur tool?! This ain't photoshop ! ;)
FauxCaster
05-26-2003, 02:11 PM
Disney is already cross-marketing Nema & Little Mermaid water toys. Yup, the same toys in either Nemo characters or Little Mermaid's.
curiousuburb
05-26-2003, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by BuonRotto
Blur tool?! This ain't photoshop ! ;)
little known, but most PhotoShop filters work perfectly if you load them into After Effects
of course, Pixar would be using Shake, but the effects are the same...
motion blur of a volumetric water current can be visually represented as linear displacement of semi-transparent foreground pixels, gaussian as...
raytracing the actual light behaviour is possible (but costs more render time)
and if your eye can't spot the difference, why render it?
case in point:
the original Jurassic Park render tests for the first appearance of dinos, a Brontosaurus near a tree, were produced at 4000 lines and 2000 lines as two separate clips for preview audiences. note that render time between the two is not double, it's squared. audiences couldn't quantify the difference between the two scenes (impressed equally by both, or not "better by the square"), so the production decision was made to keep the 2K rendering threshold as adequate. had they chosen the 4K level, the post production would have taken another 6 months and probably added more than $10 million to the cost of the film.
people were gobsmacked to see dinos, and weren't inspecting them with frickin' jeweler's loupe's, so the decision to 'make do at 2K' was wise
Pixar probably has enough computing power to do fully raytraced underwater scenes, but if the render time is prohibitive and the average consumer can't tell the difference in a fast-moving scene full of visually distracting background fish elements, why pay double or do it the hard way?
purely from a graphics technological-envelope-pushing position, I'd love to see just how much they're capable of, but it's unrealistic to assume that the commercial film-making-for-profit decision would jive with this option.
maybe they'll also ship a Nemo reel to SIGGRAPH
bunge
06-01-2003, 01:30 AM
Would this (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2003-05-30&p=.htm&PHPSESSID=408ad887ec1db8619362086787bd97c9) be considered good or bad?
As for blurring the 'front' of a rendered scene, it looks like crap compared to blurring the full depth of the screen. Just my two cents.
alcimedes
06-01-2003, 01:40 AM
saw the movie tonight, and thought it was good. i'd certainly see this one twice before Matrix Reloaded.
Argento
06-01-2003, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by alcimedes
saw the movie tonight, and thought it was good. i'd certainly see this one twice before Matrix Reloaded.
I went with him, and totally agree with him. Great story line, and it's always interesting how many more people stay through pixar's end credits then any other movie.
applenut
06-01-2003, 02:27 AM
i saw it tonight as well. I really enjoyed it. Thought it was actually a bit better than Monsters, Inc.
Pixar has a real knack for developing characters and storytelling. So enjoyable to see their films.
bunge
06-01-2003, 02:38 AM
I'm under the impression that $20 Million is good for one night, especially because kids get in cheap so it takes a lot more tickets to add up to that number. An equivalent number of full priced tickets would probably be closer to $30 Million.
Glad the movie is good.
Scott
06-01-2003, 10:13 AM
Roger Ebert gave it four stars. Not too bad.
FINDING NEMO / ****(G) (http://www.suntimes.com/output/ebert1/wkp-news-nemo30f.html)
Power Apple
06-01-2003, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by aquafire
On the plus side..
it could always be used to torture Iraqi prisoners of war !:D :lol:
not funny :(
Anyhow, I'm looking really forward to seeing this movie! the reviews so far has been outstanding!
Power Apple
06-01-2003, 04:47 PM
Some bomb...:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/01/boxoffice.reut/index.html
:D
superkarate monkeydeathcar
06-01-2003, 06:19 PM
my wife and i went with my two sons (3 & 4) on friday, my 4 year old was old enough to understand all the peril involved, so he got kind of scared, the 3 year old sat transfixed for 90 minutes and is still talking about it.
the jellyfish scene might be the greatest animated scene i've ever seen.
we'll probably go back in a couple of weeks or so. it certainly doesn't disappoint, and i bought some pixar at $51 on the 22nd so that's looking good too.
Eugene
06-01-2003, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by applenut
i saw it tonight as well. I really enjoyed it. Thought it was actually a bit better than Monsters, Inc.
Pixar has a real knack for developing characters and storytelling. So enjoyable to see their films.
Yeah, it wasn't as much of a tearjerker as Monsters Inc. but it at least had a semblence of a storyline. The humor was great as usual.
Does anybody else think Brother Bear looks cool? The teaser for The Incredibles has me worried...
burningwheel
06-01-2003, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by Power Apple
Some bomb...:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/01/boxoffice.reut/index.html
:D
yeah i saw that. even before i knew those numbers, i suspected it will be the most successful Pixar film
applenut
06-01-2003, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by Eugene
Yeah, it wasn't as much of a tearjerker as Monsters Inc. but it at least had a semblence of a storyline. The humor was great as usual.
Does anybody else think Brother Bear looks cool? The teaser for The Incredibles has me worried...
Brother Bear looked like a lame... "the lion king did SO WELL how could we make a knock-off without being too much of a knock-off" movie.
I like it because of the setting and animation but frankly, the story and characters I dont think I'll be interested in and i dont think others will. I dont know.
Disney just has sucked for so long.... they have signs of brilliance but too much filler and crap inbetween
Eugene
06-01-2003, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by applenut
Brother Bear looked like a lame... "the lion king did SO WELL how could we make a knock-off without being too much of a kock-off" movie.
Hmm, I don't know...I really like the look of cartoon bears. Maybe it's just my canine/carnivore/beast fetish...
Bodhi
06-02-2003, 12:52 AM
Yeah no kidding, opened really really well. Just goes to show the power of kids standing in front of their parents:
Dad, Can we see it yet?Dad, Can we see it yet?Dad, Can we see it yet?Dad, Can we see it yet?Dad, Can we see it yet?Dad, Can we see it yet?Dad, Can we see it yet?Dad, Can we see it yet?Dad, Can we see it yet?Dad, Can we see it yet?Dad, Can we see it yet?Dad, Can we see it yet?Dad, Can we see it yet?Dad, Can we see it yet?Dad, Can we see it yet?Dad, Can we see it yet?Dad, Can we see it yet?Dad, Can we see it yet?Dad, Can we see it yet?Dad, Can we see it yet?Dad, Can we see it yet?
Must say though from a personal standpoint, it was the worst marketing out of all the Pixar movies so far. Horrible one sheet, horrible billboards...
superkarate monkeydeathcar
06-02-2003, 12:54 AM
the mcdonalds toys are nice
jwri004
06-02-2003, 04:35 AM
When will you people learn?
Everything High Lord and Master Jobs does turns to gold
Now everyone that was a doubtful Thomas repeat after me:
"Jobs is GOD, he will lead us to enlightenment"
mrmister
06-02-2003, 09:21 AM
Saw it last night--wonderful movie.
applenut
06-02-2003, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by Bodhi
gh from a personal standpoint, it was the worst marketing out of all the Pixar movies so far. Horrible one sheet, horrible billboards...
i dont think so and if that were true I really doubt it would have pulled in as much as it did
and honestly, i dont even think you are right in your theory of its success because of kids pushing their parents to go. I went Saturday night and obviously its a late show so the kids will be fewer in number but the ENTIRE theater was full of people 18 and older.... sold out... every show that night, even the 12:30am one. So.....
BuonRotto
06-02-2003, 10:43 AM
Actually, I also thought the early teasers weren't that funny. the later ones were much better. It was something of a letdown considering how good the teaser was for Monsters Inc. But no matter. :)
groverat
06-02-2003, 11:35 AM
99% at Rotten Tomatoes.
I'll definitely be seeing it this weekend.
Fangorn
06-02-2003, 02:23 PM
We tried to go see it after dinner last night and it was sold out. Do you know how hard it is to explain "sold out" to a 2 1/2 year old?! We're trying again today, but this time I'm calling and getting the tickets in advance!
alcimedes
06-02-2003, 04:28 PM
Do you know how hard it is to explain "sold out" to a 2 1/2 year old?!
tell them it's like Moby and the album Play.
Finding Nemo was the big fish at the weekend box office, swimming to number one in its debut with about $70.6 million in domestic ticket sales, a record opening for an animated film, the Hollywood trade papers reported.
AHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA
Bomb...AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Moron.
BuonRotto
06-02-2003, 04:44 PM
Just a tad over the top there, BR.
Originally posted by BuonRotto
Just a tad over the top there, BR.
*maniacal laugh that seems to go on forever*
BRussell
06-02-2003, 05:11 PM
I think it's cute that lots of you guys, like applenut and groverat, go to see these kids' movies.
:p
applenut
06-02-2003, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by BRussell
I think it's cute that lots of you guys, like applenut and groverat, go to see these kids' movies.
:p
im a kid at heart and always will be.
besides that, it has a lot of multilevel humor that "adults" will find very funny.
Argento
06-02-2003, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by alcimedes
tell them it's like Moby and the album Play.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Dogcow
06-04-2003, 01:55 AM
What a great movie.
If you have a theater near you with digital projection, it's definatly worth it to see in digital. The color and picture are so clear it's just amazing. The blacks are really black, not a flickering gray!
I think that the Increadables will be good. I know the trailer wasn't much, but I remember thinking that Finding Nemo would be stupid after seeing it's first trailers. I was wrong about that.
I also enjoyed the short at the begining of it, but I forget what it was called. I love how they do that, it makes you feel like you get more for your money.
Did anyone pick up other pixar movie references? There was a Buzz Lightyear doll on the floor of the dentist office. [For those that don't remember there was also a toy fish in Monster's Inc.] Anything else?
FormerLurker
06-04-2003, 02:58 AM
Originally posted by jwri004
When will you people learn?
Everything High Lord and Master Jobs does turns to gold
Now everyone that was a doubtful Thomas repeat after me:
"Jobs is GOD, he will lead us to enlightenment" [/B]
rumor has it that "His Steveness" had a HUGE grin on his face Monday morning at 1IL..... what, with Nemo's record-breaking weekend, iTMS indie expansion, and WWDC coming up in a few weeks, can ya blame him?
Bodhi
06-04-2003, 03:45 AM
Originally posted by BR
Finding Nemo was the big fish at the weekend box office, swimming to number one in its debut with about $70.6 million in domestic ticket sales, a record opening for an animated film, the Hollywood trade papers reported.
AHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA
Bomb...AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Moron.
Moron?
Originally posted by Bodhi
Moron?
Originally posted by Bodhi
I think this may be the least successful of all of the films so far.
Yes.
BR is being funny? And awake---at the same time?
Nice.
When we tried to go see it the first time it was sold out---had to take the kids to the first show the next day. I'll laugh my ass off if this makes more money than the Matwitx.
Also, isn't this the last film Pixar has to make for the punters at Disney?
superkarate monkeydeathcar
06-04-2003, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by ena
BR is being funny? And awake---at the same time?
Nice.
When we tried to go see it the first time it was sold out---had to take the kids to the first show the next day. I'll laugh my ass off if this makes more money than the Matwitx.
Also, isn't this the last film Pixar has to make for the punters at Disney?
pixar owes disney two more, both of which are in production. after that pixar will probably just use a studio for distribution, but no 50/50 deal like they have with disney now. which means unless they have anymore lilo's up their sleeve disney is in deep trouble in the animation department.
bunge
06-04-2003, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by FormerLurker
...iTMS indie expansion...
:wow:
Originally posted by superkarate monkeydeathcar
pixar owes disney two more, both of which are in production. after that pixar will probably just use a studio for distribution, but no 50/50 deal like they have with disney now. which means unless they have anymore lilo's up their sleeve disney is in deep trouble in the animation department.
no kidding. to whomever it was ealrier in this thread who called pixar movies "kid" movies, i have to strongly disagree, and here's why...
when my wife and i left the theater, one of the main topics of conversation was how unDisney the pixar flicks are. think about it... if disney had come up with "finding nemo," they would have had coral (and all the kids) come back tthrough some implausible miracle at the end, as well as other stupid "feel good" circumstances. disney would have hammered ONE and ONLY ONE moral home over the course of the story, while pixar takes several levels with this picture. that sort of thing...
either way, the movie was quite good. it's actually the first pixar flick i might buy on dvd when it comes out.
p.s. i don't think i am spoiling anything for those who have not seen it already, but just in case:
i found the "interior whale" shot to be ASTOUNDING! each flick, pixar likes to have one "show-off" shot or scene, where the 3D-philes can all go "oooooooooooh." in toy story, it was the shots down the street, with about several thousand leaves on the trees blowing in the breeze. in Monsters, Inc, it's the shot where Scully is lying down in the snow, and the wind blows across his fur with ice cryctals and snow on the strands. this movie, i would have to say it was that whale shot (and the PERFECT sloshing of the water and foam back doan the throat).
applenut
06-04-2003, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by rok
i found the "interior whale" shot to be ASTOUNDING! each flick, pixar likes to have one "show-off" shot or scene, where the 3D-philes can all go "oooooooooooh." in toy story, it was the shots down the street, with about several thousand leaves on the trees blowing in the breeze. in Monsters, Inc, it's the shot where Scully is lying down in the snow, and the wind blows across his fur with ice cryctals and snow on the strands. this movie, i would have to say it was that whale shot (and the PERFECT sloshing of the water and foam back doan the throat).
i thought the school of jelly fish scene and the initial coral scenes were more impressive.
Originally posted by applenut
i thought the school of jelly fish scene and the initial coral scenes were more impressive.
check out the Monsters Inc. extras---there's a shot in the early stages of getting the math right on sulley's hair. In the sequence, his fur starts to MASSIVELY TRIP OUT.
If anyone has done solid modleing you will feel thier pain.
burningwheel
06-16-2003, 11:08 AM
i saw it too, excellent
and for all the naysayers
Animated film poised to be summer's biggest hit (http://money.cnn.com/2003/06/15/commentary/commentary_moviemoney/index.htm?cnn=yes )
groverat
06-16-2003, 11:14 AM
Excellent movie.
dstranathan
06-16-2003, 09:02 PM
Loved it.
Notice how the theatre LOOKS empty, but its actually FULL of really really little people who's heads dont show over the tops of the seats from behind? I love it. Ain't that cute?
I was surprised that even though the room was packed with kids, they were ALL completely quite and totally amazed at the story. I didn't hear a peep!
keyboardf12
06-16-2003, 09:32 PM
its number one again over the weekend.
boffo box office.
no bomb.
Heh... my brother went out to The Matrix with some friends, and because they're all under 17, they had to buy tickets for Finding Nemo and then just sneak into The Matrix. I don't think that happened much though, certainly not enough to actually affect the box office numbers.
I give this movie a 3 out of 5. The graphics are good and for a disney movie i think that the story line is fairly good. I don't think that it is their big flop.
murbot
07-08-2003, 02:01 PM
*ahem* (http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2003-07-07-nemo_x.htm)
;)
alcimedes
07-08-2003, 02:29 PM
maybe he meant "bomb" in the sense of biggest hit ever.
;)
keyboardf12
07-08-2003, 02:48 PM
Its big! Gabby Hayes big!
BRussell
07-08-2003, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by alcimedes
maybe he meant "bomb" in the sense of biggest hit ever.
;) Wouldn't that be "da bomb?"
http://a772.g.akamai.net/7/772/51/74db0656b0cb84/www.apple.com/switch/images/giannijacklone_143x142.jpg
BostonMH
07-09-2003, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by Bodhi
...There definitely isn't the buzz around LA like there has been with the other Pixar movies and for some reason these characters do not look like they are very marketable...
I think this may be the least successful of all of the films so far.
Steve Jobs was heard laughing at a board meeting, that Bodhi guy cracks me up, he said this would be our least successful film.:lol: I bet he even predicted Gore to win in a landslide in 2000, Oh! Sorry Al.:embarrass
bunge
07-09-2003, 03:57 PM
In all fairness to Bodhi, I didn't 'feel' any buzz about this film coming into it either. Things felt kind of 'empty' around it, but I don't have kids.
murbot
07-09-2003, 04:08 PM
Yeah, I didn't drag this up to rub it in Bodhi's nose or anything... just that I had *just* read this thread title again here, then saw that story online. Had a little chuckle over it. :)
My 2 1/2 year old is still freaking out over the movie, BTW. My wife just bought her a Beta fish and yeah, it's named Nemo.
:D
shetline
07-09-2003, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by murbot
My 2 1/2 year old is still freaking out over the movie, BTW. My wife just bought her a Beta fish and yeah, it's named Nemo.
:D
Wouldn't it be better to wait for the final release of the fish instead of giving a little kid a beta version? :D
Alex London
07-09-2003, 04:31 PM
:lol:
applenut
07-30-2003, 11:51 AM
http://www.sanmateocountytimes.com/Stories/0,1413,87~11271~1542003,00.html
:D
burningwheel
07-30-2003, 12:29 PM
DVD comes out on Nov 4 and can be pre-ordered at many sites :D
it's 2 disc set, not sure what is on the second disc yet
keyboardf12
07-30-2003, 12:30 PM
i read somehwere that there will be a virutal aquarium on disc 2. way cool.
no bomb.
burningwheel
07-31-2003, 12:43 PM
here's what is on the DVD (http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=673)
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