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Aquafire
08-25-2003, 03:13 AM
Why should the UN be located in the USA.?

Is it time perhaps to move the UN to Europe?

Having it in Europe is more likely to provide the UN with a greater appearance of "Political Neutrality".

I say this because I wonder what effect( if any )the location of the UN in the USA is "misread" by terrorists who see the UN as nothing more than a rubber stamp of the USA.

Locating it Europe would show a greater appearance of political neutrality as well as situating it closer to many of the world's more persistant hot-spots.

With many in the Middle East seeking greater Un & European involvement in the "road to peace", this would make it a resaonable proposition..

Besides which, I am sure there are plenty of Americans who are tired of footing the bill for various Un extraveganza's etc..
Perhaps the French might like to have it...

Or Belgium might add it to its long list of international courts...

Just a thought to chew on..

Skipjack
08-25-2003, 03:35 AM
Has the UN been responsible for the creation of any countries?

Move the UN to Israel.

Hassan i Sabbah
08-25-2003, 06:08 AM
Why are the alternatives only Europe and America?

Move it to Cape Town. Good infrastructure, cosmopolitan, in need of the regeneration. Or move it to Rio de Janeiro, ditto.

Yes indeed.

Scott
08-25-2003, 06:41 AM
Why not asia?


The UN is as useless at Europe theses days so it's a good fit.

Anders
08-25-2003, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah
Why are the alternatives only Europe and America?

Move it to Cape Town. .


I second that.

Outsider
08-25-2003, 07:31 AM
See? Not even the Europeans want to touch the UN with a 10 foot pole. Give it to the Aussies. ;)

Aquafire
08-25-2003, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by Outsider
See? Not even the Europeans want to touch the UN with a 10 foot pole.

That's funny & ironic given how many European based Ai'ers were banging on their drum about respecting the UN path to Iraq.. Inspectors, WOMD.etc etc....

What's changed all of a sudden ?;)

As for the Aussies having it..hell no...we've got enough trouble of our own to want any more...

What about the freedom loving French...
No cost involved at all.. Just re-name Euro-Disney something like " UN Liberte...and viola...;)

segovius
08-25-2003, 07:55 AM
Originally posted by Aquafire
That's funny & ironic given how many European based Ai'ers were banging on their drum about respecting the UN path to Iraq.. Inspectors, WOMD.etc etc....

What's changed all of a sudden ?;)

As for the Aussies having it..hell no...we've got enough trouble of our own to want any more...

What about the freedom loving French...
No cost involved at all.. Just re-name Euro-Disney something like " UN Liberte...and viola...;)

We'd have it in Wales - have to rename it of course. Something like...I dunno....'Caliphate' maybe ?

And of course it would need Draconian sweeping powers....

Aquafire
08-25-2003, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by segovius
We'd have it in Wales - have to rename it of course. Something like...I dunno....'Caliphate' maybe ?

And of course it would need Draconian sweeping powers....

Oh oh..Sedge is warming up his Totalatarina ballet tutu & gym slip...:embarrass:
:lol:

der Kopf
08-25-2003, 09:03 AM
My first thought was, as Hassan's, Africa. Though a little more to the north. Somewhere in the true heart of darkness. They would not only revitalize some region, but they'd also have a good excuse (scorching water-like heat) for sitting on their big fat lazy asses all day jabbering away with a drunken lisp, doing nothing of importance.

Aquafire
08-25-2003, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by der Kopf
My first thought was, as Hassan's, Africa. Though a little more to the north. Somewhere in the true heart of darkness. They would not only revitalize some region, but they'd also have a good excuse (scorching water-like heat) for sitting on their big fat lazy asses all day jabbering away with a drunken lisp, doing nothing of importance.
Der Kopf sailing close to the wind as ever..:lol:....

....I believe Joseph Conrads' "Heart of Darkness"
was set somewhere in the upper reaches of the then " Belgium Congo "
:p

BuonRotto
08-25-2003, 09:23 AM
The UN should be on the South Pole, as neutral location as possible. I would say the North Pole, but then you get into the whole Santa Claus, Christmas, religious bias thing, etc. Or maybe the moon. ;)

Aquafire
08-25-2003, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by BuonRotto
The UN should be on the South Pole, as neutral location as possible. I would say the North Pole, but then you get into the whole Santa Claus, Christmas, religious bias thing, etc. Or maybe the moon. ;)

My grandma said the the UN could come over to her place for a nice cup of tea & a digestive biscuit.

The general AGM might be a bit of a tight squeeze.. they'd all have to take truns sitting on each others' laps.

Powerdoc
08-25-2003, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by BuonRotto
The UN should be on the South Pole, as neutral location as possible. I would say the North Pole, but then you get into the whole Santa Claus, Christmas, religious bias thing, etc. Or maybe the moon. ;)

I will say , mars. Mars do not belong to any countrie, it's a perfect neutral aera. You can make a virtual assembly, via a martian module. Each communication require 40 minutes of travel, it will leave time for people to calm down before answering.

Oh wait, Mars is the god of war : bad move ... :D

agent302
08-25-2003, 09:31 AM
Umm, am I missing something? Or is Geneva no longer in Europe?

segovius
08-25-2003, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by BuonRotto
The UN should be on the South Pole, as neutral location as possible. I would say the North Pole, but then you get into the whole Santa Claus, Christmas, religious bias thing, etc. Or maybe the moon. ;)

Great point ! What about somewhere even more remote and out of touch, like....ummm....err...Washington DC ?

Think about it - I know it eats money like something that eats things a lot but then so does Bush's Govt. Stratospheric (or should that be the other direction ?) soaring budget deficit doesn't seem to bother him so why not just stick the UN on the tab and call it payroll expenses ?

According to this article (http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0825/p16s01-coop.html) conservative estimates on Iraq and related WOT activities are running at $5bn per month and rising. Having the UN on board has got to be small potatoes in that light, but you could scale it down a bit and give it a broom cupboard or something down the hall from the Oval Office if you really need to cut costs.

It might not be that expensive to relocate anyway - seeing as sidelining the UN was integral to the Iraq war plan (which obviously is budgeted for even though the White House estimate of $475bn for the year end budget deficit does not include Iraq), then it probably qualifies as a kind of 'incidental expense'. May also come in useful in the projected upcoming Syria gorefest - who knows ?

Interestingly the above article also goes on to quote a Mr. Adams as saying : "The consequences of not going for the UN role is that we pay the bill." Well, the taxpayer should get something for all that cash
($281 per day per US man, woman, and child) and the UN is totally devalued - I say throw it in as a sweetener.

Aquafire
08-25-2003, 09:41 AM
Better still, put it somewhere where it will be directly in the firing line of everyone........Jerusalem...

JimDreamworx
08-25-2003, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Aquafire
Why should the UN be located in the USA.?

Is it time perhaps to move the UN to Europe?


Worked great for the League of Nations after World War One.

ColanderOfDeath
08-25-2003, 12:42 PM
Iceland. Somewhere cold ass will help minimize the appeal of being there and thus the size of the beaurocracy. Plus they can dine on whale blubber nightly.

Relic
08-25-2003, 03:44 PM
Yeah, lets just dump the whole idea of the UN altogeter. Let the Bushes run the whole thing. Face it, who else is capable of running the world in a Peacefull matter but the US? Surly not those back stabbing Germans who said no to a war based on US self interest, traders! God forbid if it were those maynaise dipping cowards who were against saving people from the evil doers, French bastards. Geesh, this is an insightfull thread, full of Texan like pre-ejaculation agression. Yeeee Haaaa! :no:

Scott
08-25-2003, 03:54 PM
Of course the real reason France and Germany said no to the war was because of the profitable business interest they had with one of the worlds worst living thugs. Rah rah European elite. You are so superior. :rolleyes:

audiopollution
08-25-2003, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by Scott
Of course the real reason France and Germany said no to the war was because of the profitable business interest they had with one of the worlds worst living thugs. Rah rah European elite. You are so superior. :rolleyes:

Of course the real reason the US said yes to the war was because of the profitable business interest they had in ousting one of the worlds worst living thugs. Rah rah Oil Magnate elite. You are so superior. :rolleyes:

Powerdoc
08-25-2003, 04:10 PM
At the beginning this thread was funny and light hearted, now he degenerate in a Europe Vs USA as always : it's time to close it. :rolleyes: