**2001 iMac G4 Mock-up**

[Michaelm8000]

Well, It is not much but I thoght I would get warmed up for the mock-up season with this reamake of my old iMac g4 mock-up.

What do you think??

http://homepage.mac.com/michaelmatas/.Pictures/iMacG4Small.jpg

<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/mikesicons/Menu3.html" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/mikesicons/.Pictures/PhotoShopPromo.png</a>

[FERRO]

Nice pic... <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />

looks nice...

I'd buy one...

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[KidRed]

Not to take away from your (or someone's) talent in graphics, but if I flicked the monitor it would fall over. A 4" wide base will not sufficiently support that big and heavy monitor.

[Michaelm8000]

[quote]Originally posted by KidRed:
<strong>Not to take away from your (or someone's) talent in graphics, but if I flicked the monitor it would fall over. A 4" wide base will not sufficiently support that big and heavy monitor.</strong><hr></blockquote>


haha, I supose you are right. I did not really think this one thrue that much. More of just a warm up :-D. But I am shure if you messed with the weight you could get it to work.

<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/mikesicons/Menu3.html" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/mikesicons/.Pictures/PhotoShopPromo.png</a>

[ 11-20-2001: Message edited by: Michaelm8000 ]</p>

[FERRO]

No, no, no...

Its gyroscopically stabilized...

right mike...

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[Eugene]

But I wouldn't want me $1500 computer to tip over and crack in half when sneeze or bang my knee on the table. The best solution is already used by Apple for its displays...3 feet, far apart... the back foot is always farther back than the top of the tilted display.

[Michaelm8000]

[quote]Originally posted by Eugene:
<strong>But I wouldn't want me $1500 computer to tip over and crack in half when sneeze or bang my knee on the table. The best solution is already used by Apple for its displays...3 feet, far apart... the back foot is always farther back than the top of the tilted display.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Never mind the foot. Trust me it would stand :D

[KidRed]

[quote]Originally posted by Michaelm8000:
<strong>

Never mind the foot. Trust me it would stand :D </strong><hr></blockquote>

Yea, until someone flicked it, lol

[Michaelm8000]

[quote]Originally posted by KidRed:
<strong>

Yea, until someone flicked it, lol</strong><hr></blockquote>

haha. I needed to warm up. Leaving the one stand on there would be no fun. :D

[KidRed]

[quote]Originally posted by Michaelm8000:
<strong>

haha. I needed to warm up. Leaving the one stand on there would be no fun. :D </strong><hr></blockquote>

Just givin' ya a hard time :)

[Addison]

What package did you use to draw this mock up?

[Michaelm8000]

[quote]Originally posted by JW Pepper:
<strong>What package did you use to draw this mock up?</strong><hr></blockquote>

By "package" I am asuming you mean Application. I used PhotoShop. This is a combination of Photos and drawing.

<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/mikesicons/Menu3.html" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/mikesicons/.Pictures/PhotoShopPromo.png</a>

[ 11-20-2001: Message edited by: Michaelm8000 ]</p>

[Smircle]

Originally posted by Michaelm8000:
[quote]Well, It is not much but I thoght I would get warmed up for the mock-up season with this reamake of my old iMac g4 mock-up.

What do you think??
<hr></blockquote>
Nothing personal, but i find it ugly. The computer/monitor looks to fat compared to the flimsy stand.

[DigitalMonkeyBoy]

Its an attrractive peice of art however the user shoudln't have to reach up over the top of the monitor to insert media.

If Apple would make an all in one display design like this I would hope that they didn't make it so thick. It may be a ncie idea but the thickness makes it look dopey, somewhat like NEC's crappy 20th Anniversary-Mac knock-off.

[cdhostage]

I think something like this, but thicker at the base, would be nice. You could put he CD drive facing forwards at the bottom and not have that clumsy over-the-top arrangement. The whole things would taper up to the top, where it's only as thick as the LCD.

[Michaelm8000]

[quote]Originally posted by DigitalMonkeyBoy:
<strong>Its an attrractive peice of art however the user shoudln't have to reach up over the top of the monitor to insert media.

If Apple would make an all in one display design like this I would hope that they didn't make it so thick. It may be a ncie idea but the thickness makes it look dopey, somewhat like NEC's crappy 20th Anniversary-Mac knock-off.</strong><hr></blockquote>


I think that the media should go in on top. Think about it in schools when the computers are put side by side in small areas. it could be hard to have space on the side to put in the CD.


Remember guys, I think this is kind of ugly also. i did it really quick just for fun. I did not put much thoght into it. :-D

I will do some more with more thoght latter. :)

[Michael Grey]

Don't be so hard on yourself just because Smircle lacks cooth.

Your design does bring up a good point. You have the speakers seperate, which I thought was a good idea at first since it gives users the option of buying their own speakers.

But the more I thought about it the more I'm changing my mind. The iMac defines (or redefined) the 'all-in-one' computer, so it should probably keep the integrated speakers. In fact, since it's aimed at the consumer anyway, I was thinking it might be time for Apple to up the standard a notch. Why not add an integrated mic and webcam into the next iMac?

I know, I know, I've seen monitors with integrated cameras and they look hideous, but I think Apple designers could pull it off. The biggest problem is that webcams need to be able to move a little, so maybe Apple could add a little thumbwheel on the side or (preferrably) on the back like below:

http://www.graceharbor.com/fottc/images/screencam.jpg

Bundle this with some new Apple super easy to use video-conferencing software ("iCon?") and I think it would sell. Particularly to the schoolage crowd (you know, the people they were trying to get with 'Flowerpower.')

I dunno. Just a thought.

[Michaelm8000]

[quote]Originally posted by Michael Grey:
<strong>
Bundle this with some new Apple super easy to use video-conferencing software ("iCon?") and I think it would sell. Particularly to the schoolage crowd (you know, the people they were trying to get with 'Flowerpower.')

I dunno. Just a thought.</strong><hr></blockquote>

hey whatch it "iCon" is already trademarked ;) (see my sig)

I did not really think this throgh like I said. I will do a new one that I really think thrue. I think you are right that the imac shoul have speakers biult in. This would be a mid ranged G4 imac that is less all in one (think Cube).

<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/mikesicons/Menu3.html" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/mikesicons/.Pictures/PhotoShopPromo.png</a>

[EmAn]

Not bad, but I too think it would fall over. Also, I think it would look better if it was thinner (if that's possible).

[bradbower]

I think it lacks the iMac "flavor" and cuteness that people have come to expect, has come to represent Apple, and is what makes the iMacs of today so recognizable--it helps distinguish them from nasty PC knockoffs too. :) Good work drawing though, just keep at it.

[Powerdoc]

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[pscates]

That whole Jerry Lewis thing is becoming crystal clear to me...

[Mike Eggleston]

Ok, this section has gotten a little dry. I would love to see more mock-ups in here!!

[KidRed]

Can someone post that japan mock up site? Like <a href="http://www.applele.jp" target="_blank">www.applele.jp</a> or something, they have some nice mock ups of everything Apple.

[CapnPyro]

came close, <a href="http://www.applele.com" target="_blank">http://www.applele.com</a>

[KidRed]

haha, that's it, but I found it where I thought it was-<a href="http://www02.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/rb3/mrc/toppage.html" target="_blank">here to.</a>

I knew it had a '.jp' extension, lol. Thanks!

[KidRed]

Let's get some mock ups in here people!

http://www.applele.com/himac6_c.jpg

[Nebagakid]

that is ewwy <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />

[Junkyard Dawg]

That's a poor design for several reasons:

1. The disc slides in at the top? It's too hard to reach up there and slip it in at the right angle. Bad design. Remember, grannys and children need to be able to use this along with the 7' tall basketball stars.

2. The iMac wouldn't have separate speakers, because they cost more. Built-in speakers are cheaper and that's what the iMac is about: economy.

3. That base is not even close to being large enough to support the display/mobo unit. For moving it around or plugging and unplugging items, it would be too easy to topple it over.

4. The way you have it designed, it would require components to be "miniaturized" to fit in the display housing. This would be too expensive for an iMac--remember that it isn't a laptop or a portable, it's a desktop. Your design would also be difficult to cool, because of how thin it is, all the components would be crammed in together with little room for air circulation . Sure, it could be done, but it would cost too much to engineer and build. The iMac must be cheap to make.


I suspect that an LCD iMac would have the motherboard and optical drive housed in a base unit, with the LCD display consisting only of the LCD, nothing more. This would be easier to cool, cheaper to produce, and it would still be small.

Remember that Apple still has the technology from the cube sitting around, so they could easily make the iMac base unit quite small using off the shelf technology, without pushing the limits as much as the cube did.

I doubt Apple would make it, because it would be too expensive to make, but I'd really like to see an iMac with modular displays. This way you could buy a base unit, then pair it with a display of choice that just "plugged in" to the base unit. Apple wouldn't lose display sales because this design would use a proprietary port/slot for the display to mount it on the base. This would silence the most common criticism of the iMac, being that it's display was too small. Plus, a modular display would allow Apple to update the display periodically without having to change the entire iMac form factor.

Imagine buying a cheap base and then matching it to a sweet 17" LCD display! That would be so cool. Apple could even market the iMac as &lt;gasp&gt; a GAMING MACHINE!

[imacFP]

[quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:
<strong>

I suspect that an LCD iMac would have the motherboard and optical drive housed in a base unit, with the LCD display consisting only of the LCD, nothing more. This would be easier to cool, cheaper to produce, and it would still be small.

</strong><hr></blockquote>

Exactly right and Apple could use much of the current iMac base in the design. From the front both iMacs woud look much alike, but the LCD one would not be egg shaped and the base would not ride up in the back. Anybody want to take a crack at drawing this?


[quote] I doubt Apple would make it, because it would be too expensive to make, but I'd really like to see an iMac with modular displays. <hr></blockquote>

This would be a good idea, but your'e right about it costing more. Shame though.

[Jambo]

Nice mockup Michael! Remember though it's not the iMac. Just iMac.

J :cool:

[zon7]

[quote]Originally posted by Michaelm8000:
<strong>

hey whatch it "iCon" is already trademarked ;) (see my sig)
</strong><hr></blockquote>

Where do you look to see if iCon is regisered?

[ajprice]

Here's something I posted to Go2Mac a while ago. The doors contain speakers, the logo is clear plastic so that iTunes type visuals can show through when it's asleep with the doors closed.
http://homepage.mac.com/adrianprice1/.Pictures/iMac1closed.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/adrianprice1/.Pictures/iMac1open.jpg

[ 12-01-2001: Message edited by: ajprice ]</p>

[KidRed]

The above without the door thing, which I think is silly and unpractical in a school environment, could be close. I heard one rumor of the speakerrs being in the legs of the monitor and is basically a beefier lcd studio display.

[Mike Eggleston]

[quote]Originally posted by KidRed:
<strong>Let's get some mock ups in here people!

http://www.applele.com/himac6_c.jpg</strong><hr></blockquote>

I like it already!!! And with what looks to be a colored metal outside, it really looks sharp!! I do think that if they went this route, they would have to make the base bigger to accomidate the CPU and full size RAM chips. But other than that, that is one of the BEST mock-ups I have seen!!

[KidRed]

This one is a little old, but still cool. Hope the image links right-

http://www.go2mac.com/images/applele/hiMacDV.gif

[Daver]

Your mockup looks awfully nice, ajprice! Minor details aside, it's the best next-generation iMac I've seen. I assume the optical drive is mounted TAM-style? Those fold-in flat speakers remind me of a "domestic Mac" design that was in Macworld magazine about five years ago—it looked like a modernised Classic with doors, standing on three little feet.

[tl]

[quote]No, no, no...
Its gyroscopically stabilized...<hr></blockquote>

and today from macnn:

[quote]A Reuters article discussing the much-anticipated introduction of "IT," or Ginger as it is commonly known, states that Apple may be a possible beneficiary of the device. The report says that Steve Jobs was "enthralled" by the device during a prototype demonstration<hr></blockquote>

coincidence?

I think not.

[Tomahawk]

OK, I'll post it here too since no one even coments in the other thread, I figured it would have been killed quickly there. This was made quickly and isn't that good though. I'll include my info from the other thread too.

http://www.tomahawkleader.com/newiMac.jpg

It has four legs so it should be stable. The optical drive is in an area that drops down from behind the screen, I think the clear plastics of Apple's monitors looks really nice and I didn't want to break it. Instead, the drive is in the, for lack of a better word, belly of the machine and only slightly recessed (less than an inch). It would take on the color and plastic styles of the iBook.

I'd have the power cord and all the ports on the right side much like they are now, easy to reach and yet still out of the way.

Also, with the design I don't think it would be hard to make it so the monitor "snapped" on to the rest of the machine so users could select their iMac monitor size and still ship it as an all-in-one from the factory. I don't see this happening but it is an idea.

So, for simple work what do you think?

[benmac]

Have a look at this website: <a href="http://homepage.mac.com/benvp" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/benvp</a>
It has loads of really good mock-ups!

[lsderrick]

Ironicly enough Michaelm8000, your rendering closely resembles one I've posted before.

Here it is again, encase you missed it when first I posted back when we all originally thought we would get a flat panel iMac.

http://www.areed.com/imac/images/6.jpg

Derrick

[lsderrick]

To see other views of this rendering go to the following link.
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/macslash/" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/macslash/</a>

Tell me what you think.

Here's a link to some details about it.
<a href="http://www.lowendmac.com/rumormill/01/0709.html" target="_blank">http://www.lowendmac.com/rumormill/01/0709.html</a>

Derrick

[KidRed]

Not to knock talent but the actual product side of it I think it's boring. It's a big square with a monitor in it. No style, no awe factor, nothing really to make someone say 'wow, that's sweet". Like the studio displays have 2 textures the clear plastic and the silver pin striped interior border. And it has openess with the legs and the 3rd leg gives it more depth.

I just see more to it then a closed ibook look.

[lsderrick]

To see other views of this rendering go to the following link.
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/macslash/" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/macslash/</a>

Tell me what you think.

Here's a link to some details about it.
<a href="http://www.lowendmac.com/rumormill/01/0709.html" target="_blank">http://www.lowendmac.com/rumormill/01/0709.html</a>

Derrick

[SuperKoch]

I am not impressed. Apart from the G5 SPHERE there is nothing even close to Mr. Ives' radical designs. Why doesn't anyone make the thing liquid, and in a bag? So that you can actually morph it the way you want it to be on (or under) the desktop? Deluded greetings, SK :p

[Doonboggle]

the HiMac doesn't make much sense... all of the expense of a laptop with half of the convenience.

A modified studio display makes more sense, but they are already pretty expensive without little niceties such as CDWRs, harddrives, Firewire ports, ethernet, Motherboards, speakers, keyboards and all that other clutter.


db

[Mike Eggleston]

I would like more mockups, so I am going to post this message to bring it back to the limelight.... :)

[stimuli]

BTW, Michaelm, nice icons for OSX. I don't run OSX, but if I did, I'd use your icons!

[prutz11]

[quote]Originally posted by Mike Eggleston:
<strong>

I like it already!!! And with what looks to be a colored metal outside, it really looks sharp!! I do think that if they went this route, they would have to make the base bigger to accomidate the CPU and full size RAM chips. But other than that, that is one of the BEST mock-ups I have seen!!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Agree... that thing is awesome

[BobtheTomato]

Dude's you aren't going to believe this. Like I have this friend who works for Apple and after I hit him over the head with a Baseball bat I was able to swipe this off of his Powerbook. Obviously it's a mockup of an ad for the next iMac, including a drawing of the next iMac. Oh, I am so excited. Don't worry, when my friend woke up I told him there was a mosquito on his head and I tried to swat it.No one tell him I swiped this, OK?

http://homepage.mac.com/dhindle/gingermac.jpg

[EmAn]

[quote]Originally posted by BobtheTomato:
<strong>Dude's you aren't going to believe this. Like I have this friend who works for Apple and after I hit him over the head with a Baseball bat I was able to swipe this off of his Powerbook. Obviously it's a mockup of an ad for the next iMac, including a drawing of the next iMac. Oh, I am so excited. Don't worry, when my friend woke up I told him there was a mosquito on his head and I tried to swat it.No one tell him I swiped this, OK?

http://homepage.mac.com/dhindle/gingermac.jpg</strong><hr></blockquote>

Sounds like something Junkyard Dawg would post.

[S10]

Frontloading cdr/dvd is possible if the next iMac has an "L" shape: A base with all the hardware which also serves as a base for the LCD screen on top.

[Matsu]

Two, nee three, design philosophies at work here.

1) slim with side loading optical

2) fat or L-shaped with front loading optical

3) TAM style

I propose a fourth style:

tounge loading -- front loading, but slim enclosure.

But how? What is Matsu smoking?

Easy. Mount the slot loader behind the LCD on an angle of about 30 degrees from parallel with the screen. The disc ejects from a front firing, yet severely down-angled slot -- Like the iMac sticking out it's tounge. The whole mechanism is designed so that the back of the case remains about 3-3.5 inches thick. The slot is shaped so as to guide disc insertion, and keep, especially kids, from trying to insert the disc at a right angle to the screen. The feet are high enough to provide adequate clearance when inserting or ejecting a disc.

[Spart]

Here is my rendition of what the new iMac will look like:

http://homepage.mac.com/jamosoft/imac_new.jpg

[FERRO]

thats funny...

Dynamically Stabilized LCD iMac....

the wheels could also be the speakers...

you would just place it there...

And it would balance...

lol....

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[Mac Glue Sniffer]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by FERRO:
[QB]thats funny...

Dynamically Stabilized LCD iMac....

the wheels could also be the speakers...

you would just place it there...

And it would balance...

lol....

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Actually... that is one HECK of an idea....

If Steve was so blown away by ginger, what would stop him from using the gyro concept to come up with a self balancing Mac! LOL

[applenut]

perhaps people should imagine a 20th Anniversary Mac brought up to today's Apple look and standards.

[SledgeHammer]

[quote]perhaps people should imagine a 20th Anniversary Mac brought up to today's Apple look and standards.<hr></blockquote>

That is really what ajprice's design is. It might work. And instead of a slot loading optical, if could be front mounted vertical, like the 20th anniversary. Granted, that's rehashing old stuff, but it could be done. I was also thinking along the lines of Matsu's "tongue-loading" drive. whio knows...

[Mediaman]

It could be like the TAM design, but Apple likes the uncomplicated nature of the slot loader? If the drive was mounted verticaly below the screen and poped out when the eject button is presed (sort of like a tape deck).

IMHO I don't think apple will do anything like the TAM design, they have 'been there' so to speak.

[mgkwho]

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[shady104]

yea wow this thread came back from the dead!

[ajprice]

Hehe, ah the memories :P .

[Hiro]

I don't know why you revived this thread, but if it's worth anything to note here: Mike Matas works for Apple now.

Pretty cool considering he was just an AI member 5 years ago.

When did he go to Apple? Last I heard he was doing the UI and icons for the Omni Group.

[theapplegenius]

When did he go to Apple? Last I heard he was doing the UI and icons for the Omni Group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Matas

July 2005.

[gregmightdothat]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Matas

July 2005.
What do you want to bet he wrote that himself?

Everythings a simple sentence!

[Skwidspawn]

What do you want to bet he wrote that himself?

Everythings a simple sentence!
What you don't believe the great wikipedia fact checkers?

[audiopollution]

When did he go to Apple? Last I heard he was doing the UI and icons for the Omni Group.

http://www.mikematas.com/2005/07/moving-to-apple.html

[Hiro]

Man. I am a dinosaur.