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ipodandimac
02-11-2004, 02:31 PM
over macrumors they have info regarding the 970Fx SMOKING intel :) :)

LINK! (http://www.macrumors.com)

Leonis
02-11-2004, 02:36 PM
What? Only 2.5GHz. That's BS! Intel is at 3.2+ GHz

Unacceptable. I am getting a DELL!

:lol:

Messiahtosh
02-11-2004, 02:56 PM
This is the type of news that points to February 28 as the PowerMac revision date.

oldmacfan
02-11-2004, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by Leonis
What? Only 2.5GHz. That's BS! Intel is at 3.2+ GHz

Unacceptable. I am getting a DELL!

:lol:

3.4Ghz is now available, isn't it.

Flounder
02-11-2004, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by oldmacfan
3.4Ghz is now available, isn't it.

I can't recall where, but I think I read last week it's been delayed another month. Or was that 3.6? Who can say, I don't know squat! :\


I'm also putting my vote in for two weeks away.

BR
02-11-2004, 03:22 PM
No you fools. There will be an incredible leap in computing power on LEAP DAY! COME ON! LEAP DAY!

Aphelion
02-11-2004, 03:46 PM
Leap Day, this year, is on a Sunday

oldmacfan
02-11-2004, 03:49 PM
That is also Oscar night in Hollywood, and it is also the second biggest day for commercials (After the Super Bowl).

And Steve is a Movie guy and hmmm...I smell a rumor...

ipodandimac
02-11-2004, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by oldmacfan
That is also Oscar night in Hollywood, and it is also the second biggest day for commercials (After the Super Bowl).

And Steve is a Movie guy and hmmm...I smell a rumor...

that would be too awesome

fred_lj
02-11-2004, 04:06 PM
Okay, but a LEAP in performance? I guess I am really missing something about the 970FX...just want a G5 PowerBook before the end of this year.

mattjohndrow
02-11-2004, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by Leonis
What? Only 2.5GHz. That's BS! Intel is at 3.2+ GHz

Unacceptable. I am getting a DELL!

:lol:
you're such a funny guy...you're kidding, right...?

Amorph
02-11-2004, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by mattjohndrow
you're such a funny guy...you're kidding, right...?

No, he just heard that Motorola will become Dell's sole supplier, and he can't wait to ditch Apple and support his favorite CPU vendor. :devil:

DMBand0026
02-11-2004, 05:24 PM
That would probably be a SINGLE G5, remember, the 2.0 speed is achieved with 2 processors. I assume that the 130nm could achieve the 2.0 speed with only one processor, but it would be too hot. I would be willing to bet that the 90nm could hit speeds higher than 2.5ghz with only a single processor. It's gonna be sweet when the Rev. 2s come out.

hasapi
02-11-2004, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by Amorph
No, he just heard that Motorola will become Dell's sole supplier, and he can't wait to ditch Apple and support his favorite CPU vendor. :devil:

:lol: I like it!

gfeier
02-11-2004, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by DMBand0026
That would probably be a SINGLE G5, remember, the 2.0 speed is achieved with 2 processors. I assume that the 130nm could achieve the 2.0 speed with only one processor, but it would be too hot. I would be willing to bet that the 90nm could hit speeds higher than 2.5ghz with only a single processor. It's gonna be sweet when the Rev. 2s come out.

Huh?

gar
02-11-2004, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by fred_lj
Okay, but a LEAP in performance? I guess I am really missing something about the 970FX...just want a G5 PowerBook before the end of this year.
ah, G 5 p o w e r b o o k
me too

Eugene
02-11-2004, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by Flounder
I can't recall where, but I think I read last week it's been delayed another month. Or was that 3.6? Who can say, I don't know squat! :\
The 3.4E (Prescott) is delayed. The 3.4 (Northwood) is shipping.

Derrick 61
02-11-2004, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by DMBand0026
That would probably be a SINGLE G5, remember, the 2.0 speed is achieved with 2 processors. I assume that the 130nm could achieve the 2.0 speed with only one processor, but it would be too hot. I would be willing to bet that the 90nm could hit speeds higher than 2.5ghz with only a single processor. It's gonna be sweet when the Rev. 2s come out.

Ummm....those G5s are 2.0 GHz EACH!

costique
02-12-2004, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by Derrick 61
Ummm....those G5s are 2.0 GHz EACH!Wait... I thought dual processor == dual GHz. :lol:

Eugene
02-12-2004, 02:21 AM
Originally posted by gfeier
Huh?
He has access to some pretty good "emergency medicine."

PBG4 Dude
02-12-2004, 07:17 AM
Originally posted by DMBand0026
That would probably be a SINGLE G5, remember, the 2.0 speed is achieved with 2 processors. I assume that the 130nm could achieve the 2.0 speed with only one processor, but it would be too hot. I would be willing to bet that the 90nm could hit speeds higher than 2.5ghz with only a single processor. It's gonna be sweet when the Rev. 2s come out.

I see someone failed their English comprehension test. :D

j/k, but I thought the verbiage on Apple's website of "dual 2GHZ processors" was quite specific about the fact that there are two processors with each one running at 2.0GHz.

I mean, if they can make a SINGLE 1.8GHz, what makes you think that 2GHz is impossible?

Jubelum
02-12-2004, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by DMBand0026
That would probably be a SINGLE G5, remember, the 2.0 speed is achieved with 2 processors.

In a situation like this, I recommend calling Vinny's Foot -In-Mouth removal service. They do great work on the cheap.
;)

PB
02-12-2004, 10:08 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

concentricity
02-12-2004, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by Jubelum
In a situation like this, I recommend calling Vinny's Foot -In-Mouth removal service. They do great work on the cheap.
;)

I just want to know how he got to over 1500 posts without someone in this community realizing he was "special". :lol:

kid k
02-12-2004, 10:47 AM
no kidding... that can't be for real.. he was just jokin ha... :) ahhh... :( hmmmm

kid k
02-12-2004, 10:49 AM
like he says, Technology is dominated by two types of people: those who understand what they do not manage, and those who manage what they do not understand. Putts Law ... just kidding.. oh wait.

Jared
02-12-2004, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by oldmacfan
That is also Oscar night in Hollywood, and it is also the second biggest day for commercials (After the Super Bowl).

And Steve is a Movie guy and hmmm...I smell a rumor...

That is also the day of the grand opening of the Apple Store in San Francisco. Not going to happen...

concentricity
02-12-2004, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by kid k
no kidding... that can't be for real.. he was just jokin ha... :) ahhh... :( hmmmm

just for the record, he lists his native language as English. (seriously?! :err: )

ipodandimac
02-12-2004, 12:11 PM
and I was accused of being the frozen caveman... yes, running a 130nm at 2Ghz would be WAY too hot! :lol: j/k

Krassy
02-12-2004, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by DMBand0026
That would probably be a SINGLE G5, remember, the 2.0 speed is achieved with 2 processors. I assume that the 130nm could achieve the 2.0 speed with only one processor, but it would be too hot. I would be willing to bet that the 90nm could hit speeds higher than 2.5ghz with only a single processor. It's gonna be sweet when the Rev. 2s come out.

this is the coolest post ever :lol: :lol: thank you DMBand0026.

and btw: i think you're right - the 90nm 970fx can reach higher speeds than 2.5Ghz with only a single processor. put two of them into a dual powermac and we've got more than a dual 5Ghz-machine... wow!!!


eh?

Crusader
02-15-2004, 09:07 PM
Wow, I'm still amazed at the fact that the SSOI process, and die shrink resulted in about half the power output. Going from 51 to 25 watts is great. I really can't wait to see that 1.4 Ghz G5 in a Powerbook.

kim kap sol
02-15-2004, 09:17 PM
Cyborg/Android spam e-mails:

Reduce your penis size using SSOI. Is your penis too large? Does it dissipate so much heat that you had to buy a 9-fan thermoweave underwear? Do girl cyborgs/androids laugh at the performance of your penis? Reduce your penis size NOW!!!

ipodandimac
02-15-2004, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by kim kap sol
Cyborg/Android spam e-mails:

Reduce your penis size using SSOI. Is your penis too large? Does it dissipate so much heat that you had to buy a 9-fan thermoweave underwear? Do girl cyborgs/androids laugh at the performance of your penis? Reduce your penis size NOW!!!

ummm......

Jubelum
02-16-2004, 12:09 AM
<We now return to our regularly scheduled thread>

Can anyone do me a favour and illuminate the whole bus-speed/multiplier situation for the G5? From what I can draw, a 2.5Ghz processor would need a 1.25Ghz bus, ie- processor = 2x bus.
I remember all the talk during the PM-G4 days about how multipliers of certain sizes were stupid because they would leave a processor at say 1.XX Ghz. That's what we have now, G4s rated at hundreths of a Ghz. Such fun. And inane discussions like "My 1.42 is much better than your 1.25" have been a blast around the office. Amazing how we act over a few processor cycles.

Is the bus speed all about yield like the CPU, or are we dealing with set multiplier with the G5? (currently 100Mhz at a time...)

And BTW, I DO have Vinny's on speed dial...:D
</dizzy>

costique
02-16-2004, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by Jubelum
Can anyone do me a favour and illuminate the whole bus-speed/multiplier situation for the G5? From what I can draw, a 2.5Ghz processor would need a 1.25Ghz bus, ie- processor = 2x bus.They said PPC970 supports only one 2x bus speed multiplier, i.e. FSB frequency is half the CPU frequency. Please, feel free to correct me if I talk out of my ass.

Now, with PPC970fx, if I'm not mistaken, they speak about some elastic bus. I haven't seen any official info on this one, but its name suggests either more frequency ratio multipliers or some dynamic nature. I've also read somewhere on ArsForums that some people believe that 1.1GHz is the maximum speed of Apple's system controller, which, if true, complicates things a bit.

In short, as far as I know, we don't know anything for sure yet.

Telomar
02-16-2004, 04:33 AM
The PPC970 supported 2x, 3x, 4x and 6x multipliers. Its bus has always been known as an elastic bus and Apple's system controller should scale just as easily as the bus. It's just a matter of how much heat it puts out and if the signal integrity can be maintained, although I doubt there will be issues on either count.

Krassy
02-16-2004, 04:38 AM
apple will probably use that new SSOI 90nm fabrication-process too for the system-controller? any hints on that?

Tomb of the Unknown
02-16-2004, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Jubelum
Is the bus speed all about yield like the CPU, or are we dealing with set multiplier with the G5? (currently 100Mhz at a time...)
You should take a look at Hannibal's excellent article at Arstechnica:

http://arstechnica.com/cpu/02q2/ppc970/ppc970-2.html

Note that the 970 has a (comparatively) large instruction cache.