Last Minute Predictions

[ArticulatedArm]

Please post what you think it will actually be... and what you wish could have been.



For example...

I think it will be something very close to this...

http://wiredblogs.tripod.com/cultofmac/himacr16400300.jpg


But I wish it was something very close to this...

http://homepage.mac.com/loyalp1/.Pictures/imacdock.jpg

[applenut]

No new iMac.

[hledgard]

Applenut, why do you think no new iMac?

[glen]

I quite like the look of this by Andrew Morrison. It's also the first mock-up I've seen to tackle the mouse and keyboard.

http://www.theapplecollection.com/design/macdesign/images/iMac-G5big.jpg

[BRussell]

I'm thinking it's basically going to be what's been reported - an all-in-one with 17" and 20" screen and sub-2 Ghz G5s at around the same price as the old G4 iMacs. I really hope they figure out some way to make it headless, maybe with that VESA mount on the back of the displays, so that you could buy the computer itself w/o display for around $1000. But somehow I doubt it. Apple just seems to have other priorities.

[BRussell]

Originally posted by applenut
No new iMac. :err: Considering they've already announced it on their website, and they've said it's going to have a G5 in their conference call, I'm not sure what could make you say this. Or are you just saying it's not going to be announced in Paris?

[applenut]

Originally posted by BRussell
:err: Considering they've already announced it on their website, and they've said it's going to have a G5 in their conference call, I'm not sure what could make you say this. Or are you just saying it's not going to be announced in Paris?

not going to be announced in paris.

Just my opinion. As each day passes it seems less likely that it won't be but I'm sticking with my original guess of it being unveiled in the states, by Jobs, in September at a special press event.

[jph]

- New iPod mini colors (even though they can't even keep up with demand for the current models), maybe new HD size (6GB).

- G5 iMac - with a stunning new design but questionable specs and priced too high.

- Some kind of DLD (as bonus to the above).

jph

[powermacG6]

I think it will be the same form, but slightly larger and be made from aluminium. It will be anodized in 3 colours - silver, and whatever the two best selling iPod Mini colours are.

It will hopefully have a 2.0 g5, 9800 pro, 512MB, but I fear Im resigned to 1.8 G5, NV5200, and 256MB.

I cant see any justification in having less than my preferred spec in todays market. Which would be about right for a computer in the market segment its in, and for users to get a reasonable experience for a good 2 years. But hey! this is Apple.

[powermacG6]

Originally posted by glen
I quite like the look of this by Andrew Morrison. It's also the first mock-up I've seen to tackle the mouse and keyboard.

http://www.theapplecollection.com/design/macdesign/images/iMac-G5big.jpg

Personally I'd never but a monitor that wouldn't allow me to have the screen near dead vertical. I lose count of how many people ive worked with / friends that have their monitors pointing at the ceiling. Thats just so wrong! (IMO)

[Guartho]

So, what time eastern does the philnote start?

[Messiahtosh]

Originally posted by applenut
not going to be announced in paris.

Just my opinion. As each day passes it seems less likely that it won't be but I'm sticking with my original guess of it being unveiled in the states, by Jobs, in September at a special press event. I have that gut feeling as well, but at the same time, what is the black banner covering up? And that teaser poster? Unless Apple releases a PowerBook G5 and not the iMac G5 at Paris...

[applenut]

Originally posted by Messiahtosh
I have that gut feeling as well, but at the same time, what is the black banner covering up? And that teaser poster? Unless Apple releases a PowerBook G5 and not the iMac G5 at Paris...

i dunno, it could be covering up anything. since it's long it does appear to be a banner that would run along the top of the usual computer countertops. although it could be iPods or Powerbooks.

Who knows. it could be software.

I don't think any of the pictures are really telling yet.

I didn't think they'd announce the iMac overseas since the american press doesn't give it much notice. Also, it doesn't seem supply issues have been alleviated and I'm not sure how wise it'd be to wait 2 months and then announce it, only to still have supply problems. wouldn't be the best for apple's image.

[Messiahtosh]

Originally posted by applenut
i dunno, it could be covering up anything. since it's long it does appear to be a banner that would run along the top of the usual computer countertops. although it could be iPods or Powerbooks.

Who knows. it could be software.

I don't think any of the pictures are really telling yet.

I didn't think they'd announce the iMac overseas since the american press doesn't give it much notice. Also, it doesn't seem supply issues have been alleviated and I'm not sure how wise it'd be to wait 2 months and then announce it, only to still have supply problems. wouldn't be the best for apple's image. I can see the iMac being announced in one of two ways.

1. The way you mentioned, which would be bad for Apple. Announcing and accepting pre-orders for a product that wont ship for 6 weeks or more.

2. Announcing and accepting orders for it that can be filled within 2 weeks.

That one report about Apple incuring massive costs because of air-freighting iMacs to flood the retail channels is interesting, also the tidbit about how the 1.8 GHz G5's are going to new iMacs and not PowerMacs...

I'm starting to talk myself into the possibility of a Paris iMac announcement. ;)

Anyway, if it is announced, it will be done by Steve in a pre-recorded video (like the Apple Stores) or by Steve via iChat....or by Phil. :p

[Ensign Pulver]

The iMac G5 only got pushed to September and Paris 'cause the June WWDC unveiling got scrapped. Then to make matters worse, Steve got sick and now Phil has to intro one of the most important Apple products ever, and away from the American press.

Up until only a few days ago, I still thought they'd wait until later in the month so that Steve can do it stateside, but both the mainstream and financial press have become convinced the iMac will be at Paris. With the run up in the stock and no denial from Apple, I guess Phil is going to be forced to do it after all.

Unless Steve himself shows up on stage as the "one more thing"...

[Dylsexic Manupilator]

Originally posted by Ensign Pulver


Unless Steve himself shows up on stage as the "one more thing"...

That's one of the possibilities why I intend to drive over there by bike on tuesday. I live 300 km away from Paris and I need to be back for work at 1600 hrs in the afternoon, but hey, you're a zealot or you aren't :D

[BRussell]

Originally posted by Dylsexic Manupilator
I intend to drive over there by bike on tuesday. I live 300 km away from Paris :wow:

[Dylsexic Manupilator]

It's not such a big deal really.
I made the trip with Der Kopf ( remember him?) last year aswell.
:lol:

[MacsRGood4U]

The new iMac will be introduced. A leading French retailier has sent out invitations inviting consumers to view the new Cinema Display 30", the new G5's, the new iPod mini's, 4Gen iPod and the new iMac this week. From Macbidouille

- La FNAC will demo the Mac G5 ! - Lionel - 10:48:56

A short message from Martin:

I have just received a letter from the FNAC (French leader for shops selling HIFI, electronic devices, IT, music,...) officially announcing a special event during AppleExpo. A dedicated area inside FNAC Digitale will be reserved to new Apple products: iPod 4G, Mini, G5s with 30" display, PowerBooks, and especially "the new iMac"!

There is no specific time indicated, but I guess it should be installed as soon as next Tuesday afternoon.

My guess is the form factor will be similar to the current iMac but all elements will be redesigned for a more industrial and less "pretty" look. The screen will still float (with less of a thick bezel around the edges) and the base will still be there but it won't be round. I don't think CPU elements will be behind the screen or will the optical drive be vertically postioned there.

[TednDi]

I think they will unveil a new isight featuring Steve.

Then, Steve will give the one more thing

The thin client for the G5 imac = something like the tablet but better

[MacsRGood4U]

People are already reporting the receipt of a new slightly modified iSight.

[LudwigVan]

Originally posted by Guartho
So, what time eastern does the philnote start?

From the Apple Expo (http://www.apple-expo.com/uk/keynote/) site: "The Apple Expo 2004 Keynote presentation will be held at the Palais des Congrès in Paris, on Tuesday, August 31 at 10:00 a.m."

Eastern time, that's 4:00 AM.

Everybody else can do their own damn time conversions here: All your time zones are belong to us (http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc). :grumble:

[PB]

Originally posted by BRussell
:wow:

He he, you have no idea what people from Belgium and especially the Netherlands are capable for, when they ride a bike :D . I remember, more than a decade ago, when I attended some doctoral spring school in the Limburgs Universitair Centrum, one of the Mathematics Professors (from the Netherlands), made too some hundreds of kilometers with his bike. And then it was yet winter, and frozen!

[gar]

Originally posted by Messiahtosh
I have that gut feeling as well, but at the same time, what is the black banner covering up? And that teaser poster? Unless Apple releases a PowerBook G5 and not the iMac G5 at Paris... hmm,
Maybe that's the reason of the hassle (http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=225794#post2151111) with the 17"powerbook.
Because of heat issues the 17" is the only powerbook that can sport a G5 on this moment.
So they introduce it now followed by the rest of the powerbook range in 2005...
right? :)

[Messiahtosh]

Originally posted by gar
hmm,
Maybe that's the reason of the hassle (http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=225794#post2151111) with the 17"powerbook.
Because of heat issues the 17" is the only powerbook that can sport a G5 on this moment.
So they introduce it now followed by the rest of the powerbook range in 2005...
right? :) I think that Apple could squeeze a G5 into a 15'' PowerBook design, if it could manage to get it into a 17''. The 12'' may not get it for a long, long time.

[concentricity]

I have a little conspiracy theory for you guys...

Steve never had pancreatic cancer. It was all a setup to allow Phil a chance to deliver a big keynote. Sort of a warm-up, or tryout. Phil is being groomed for CEO after Steve announces his 'retirement'. Why is Steve retiring? He's going to start a new company named "Trinity Life Systems" that will pioneer the next wave of organic food production, integrating technology into the micro-level of certified organic farming. Trinity will also provide vast levels of service to consumers for managing special dietary needs, and ultimately striving for a super-human race of permenantly wirelessly wired "netizens".

"The Matrix is here, and it's vegan-friendly." (TM)

[gar]

[more or less off topic]
Originally posted by PB
He he, you have no idea what people from Belgium and especially the Netherlands are capable for, when they ride a bike :D . I remember, more than a decade ago, when I attended some doctoral spring school in the Limburgs Universitair Centrum, one of the Mathematics Professors (from the Netherlands), made too some hundreds of kilometers with his bike. And then it was yet winter, and frozen! Indeed.
Everyday, on my bike to my work and back with my powerbook in my backpack.
Meanwhile my car collects bird droppings at the parking in front of my house.
But i don't see myself cycling to Paris and back.

BTW: Freezing is not a problem when you're cycling, rain is.

[Messiahtosh]

Originally posted by concentricity
I have a little conspiracy theory for you guys...

Steve never had pancreatic cancer. It was all a setup to allow Phil a chance to deliver a big keynote. Sort of a warm-up, or tryout. Phil is being groomed for CEO after Steve announces his 'retirement'. Why is Steve retiring? He's going to start a new company named "Trinity Life Systems" that will pioneer the next wave of organic food production, integrating technology into the micro-level of certified organic farming. Trinity will also provide vast levels of service to consumers for managing special dietary needs, and ultimately striving for a super-human race of permenantly wirelessly wired "netizens".

"The Matrix is here, and it's vegan-friendly." (TM) Most disgusting post ever.:err:

[Dylsexic Manupilator]

Originally posted by gar
[more or less off topic]
Indeed.
Everyday, on my bike to my work and back with my powerbook in my backpack.
Meanwhile my car collects bird droppings at the parking in front of my house.
But i don't see myself cycling to Paris and back.

BTW: Freezing is not a problem when you're cycling, rain is.

Errr guys, maybe I should have written by MOTORbike.
I may be (temporarily) insane but I'm not THAT crazy.
:D

[sobelizzard]

Completely ignoring the post about the fake cancer.... I have a hunch that Steve might be there tomorrow.... he's a show man, and if there's any way he can be there, I bet he's there. The month is almost over... health permitting, he'd be one hell of a "one more thing".

[Messiahtosh]

Originally posted by sobelizzard
Completely ignoring the post about the fake cancer.... I have a hunch that Steve might be there tomorrow.... he's a show man, and if there's any way he can be there, I bet he's there. The month is almost over... health permitting, he'd be one hell of a "one more thing". It would be the most dramatic moment in Steve's public life.

[a_greer]

Originally posted by concentricity
I have a little conspiracy theory for you guys...

Steve never had pancreatic cancer. It was all a setup to allow Phil a chance to deliver a big keynote. Sort of a warm-up, or tryout. Phil is being groomed for CEO after Steve announces his 'retirement'. Why is Steve retiring? He's going to start a new company named "Trinity Life Systems" that will pioneer the next wave of organic food production, integrating technology into the micro-level of certified organic farming. Trinity will also provide vast levels of service to consumers for managing special dietary needs, and ultimately striving for a super-human race of permenantly wirelessly wired "netizens".

"The Matrix is here, and it's vegan-friendly." (TM) That is just sick, and stupid, I notice that you are from "The Smartest City in Massachusetts (tm)" If that is so, you must be the village idiot, who sees UFOs by night...by the way that black chopper above your house isnt the local trafic reporter if you know what I mean.

What a kook :err:

[monkeyastronaut]

Announced hardware...

-95% chance for the iMac G5
-70% chance for the iSight 2
-40% chance for a the 6GB iPod mini
-30% chance for a new DLD

I think Steve Jobs will hookup via iChat at some point.

[concentricity]

Originally posted by a_greer
That is just sick, and stupid, I notice that you are from "The Smartest City in Massachusetts (tm)" If that is so, you must be the village idiot, who sees UFOs by night...by the way that black chopper above your house isnt the local trafic reporter if you know what I mean.

What a kook :err:

Wow, was it not completely obvious that A) it was not meant seriously, and B) the 'point', if you will, wasn't about cancer, it was about what would happen if steve left?

seriously guys, relax. I'm terribly sorry if any of you have had a loved one fake cancer and run away to start an evil vegan corporation.

[legaleagle]

Originally posted by Dylsexic Manupilator
That's one of the possibilities why I intend to drive over there by bike on tuesday. I live 300 km away from Paris and I need to be back for work at 1600 hrs in the afternoon, but hey, you're a zealot or you aren't :D

Have a good time there on TUESDAY. The keynote is MONDAY

[legaleagle]

Arrggh. TUESDAY is right. I'm so sorry. Wishful thinking.

Oh, and hey, concentricity?? Your village called. They miss their idiot.

[Messiahtosh]

Originally posted by concentricity
Wow, was it not completely obvious that A) it was not meant seriously, and B) the 'point', if you will, wasn't about cancer, it was about what would happen if steve left?

seriously guys, relax. I'm terribly sorry if any of you have had a loved one fake cancer and run away to start an evil vegan corporation. Now I know you did not mean to offend, and when people get mad at you on a message board, a lot goes through your mind. You want to tell them to shut the fuck up and let them know how idiotic they are for not understanding your point of view, but....people do not like it when terminal/and or regular illnesses are the subject of a weird parody.

My mom had cancer you know, and I bet many other people here know people that have had it, or have even had it themselves.

Now I know I am not the most sparkling clean member here, but that sort of stuff is off limits. It's just something you don't do...:\

[MacsRGood4U]

Originally posted by monkeyastronaut
Announced hardware...

-95% chance for the iMac G5
-70% chance for the iSight 2
-40% chance for a the 6GB iPod mini
-30% chance for a new DLD

I think Steve Jobs will hookup via iChat at some point.

I'd say 100% chance for the iMac G5
and
100% chance for the iSight "2".
The iSight 2 has already been received by several purchasers. It has a new magnetic mount and some minor changes to the housing.
0% chance for a 6 GB iPod mini until Apple can fulfill current demand. Hitachi is not going to be able to deliver 6 GB drives if they still can't deliver 4 GB drives. Early next year probably.
No new digital lifestyle device (something to go along with Airport Express - a remote perhaps?) until after the first of the year.

Steve will most likely say hello via iChat and either introduce the new iMac (as one is also be rolled up on stage) or will be sitting by one talking to Phil at the end of the Keynote.

My 2 cents. :)

[concentricity]

Originally posted by Messiahtosh
Now I know you did not mean to offend, and when people get mad at you on a message board, a lot goes through your mind. You want to tell them to shut the fuck up and let them know how idiotic they are for not understanding your point of view, but....people do not like it when terminal/and or regular illnesses are the subject of a weird parody.

My mom had cancer you know, and I bet many other people here know people that have had it, or have even had it themselves.

Now I know I am not the most sparkling clean member here, but that sort of stuff is off limits. It's just something you don't do...:\

Well, I am terribly sorry for your loss, and anyone else's. I too have had several close family members stricken with various cancers (two of which have died). But, I 100% disagree with you. First, I had no interest to "tell them to shut the fuck up" (or use profanity), and I had no interest in making light of terminal illnesses. Anyone who thought I did has much bigger problems.

And let's be real here, Steve's type of pancreatic cancer is not any more "terminal" than herpes, or any other illness that, left unchecked for years will kill you. Are you seriously suggesting that any oddball, indirect reference to STD's is "crossing the line", or "off limits" because someone may very well have had one, or know someone who died of it? Absurd. The entire notion of "off limits" makes me sick, especially when humor, creative works, public debate, etc are the context. I would never make light of YOUR pain, misery, etc, because I have sincere human compassion, even for those I don't know. But to try to tell me I can't have a free sense of humor, and the right to express that is "crossing the lines" if you ask me.

I can't believe anyone could actually take anything on these forums seriously enough to make issue of it.

[Messiahtosh]

Whatever, faking cancer to start a vegan whatever....:no:

[Ensign Pulver]

There will be no iPod updates of any kind until MWSF 05 at the earliest. Apple will be lucky to catch up with existing demand by Christmas as it is. Besides 99% of the planet still doesn't even know the iPod mini exists. Any changes to the line, even if they were possible, would be a complete waste.

[MacsRGood4U]

A large chunk of the planet will know about the iPod as HP does its advertising on the device!

[Messiahtosh]

That's not necessarily true at all. Supply issues are being made to seem very bad, when in fact, the iPod mini is now fairly easy to get in the States.

[Messiahtosh]

Originally posted by MacsRGood4U
A large chunk of the planet will know about the iPod as HP does its advertising on the device! And HP will run TV ads tonight.

[Placebo]

I'd personally like to see the Geforce 6800 to be confirmed as shipping by the end of September.



Announcing Doom3 for Mac in partnership with Id would be nice, but no shit it's not going to happen.

[applenut]

Originally posted by Placebo
I'd personally like to see the Geforce 6800 to be confirmed as shipping by the end of September.



Announcing Doom3 for Mac in partnership with Id would be nice, but no shit it's not going to happen.

yea, that'll be great. announce Doom 3 and then announce iMacs which can't play it8)

[Placebo]

Originally posted by applenut
yea, that'll be great. announce Doom 3 and then announce iMacs which can't play it8)
Haha. :lol:

[Chris Cuilla]

Originally posted by applenut
yea, that'll be great. announce Doom 3 and then announce iMacs which can't play it8)

Cynic!

This is a time for optimism.

We are living in world of peace and prosperity...oh wait...nevermind.

;)

[RnSK]

You all realize that most of the working world is grown people that don't have ump-teen hours/week to run around Uberlit tunnels shooting "fleshy" monsters...or other people trying to do so...right?

One of the things that has, quite frankly, irked me about the PC Biz in recent times (last 5-7 years) is that folks seem to take their cues on how personal computing should be from id Software, as opposed to the vast majority of the *other people* out there that *use* computers, and how to make hardware and software that works better with, and for, you know, actual people :)

Leave us face it...most folks over the age of say, 25, only have a passing interest in "High End" gaming, because they actually have something else to do with their time, and when they want to compute, they want it to not suck all azz.

Apple designs computers for *that* group of people. Honestly, if you are going to plunk down several hundred dollars for a GPU to play first person shooters...

heheh

::shakes head::

-K

[Placebo]

Originally posted by applenut
yea, that'll be great. announce Doom 3 and then announce iMacs which can't play it8)
Actually, according to Id, Doom3 runs and looks pretty nice on Geforce 3, 4, and MX series cards, on Low settings.


I'd post some screens, but I can't find any, I just remember that they looked spiffy, even at low.

[Tasovar]

This is what I would like to see happen

- They talk about Tiger
- They tell how a new iSight is shipping
- Then Steve either comes on stage or is there by iChat
- Steve and Schiller introduce the new iMac that esencially looks pretty much the same, but sleeker and a smaller base
- Steve talks about how it has a G5 in it and all the other features
- Schillers goes over to the screen, puts his hand on the edge of the screen, turns it back, forth, around to show its mobility and then plucks it right off, and it is still working!

That would be great!

Maybe just some wishful thinking...

[Chris Cuilla]

Originally posted by Tasovar
- Schillers goes over to the screen, puts his hand on the edge of the screen, turns it back, forth, around to show its mobility and then plucks it right off, and it is still working!

Why does everyone soooo want a tablet? This strikes me as a solution looking for a problem.

[iProphet]

I have another prediction nobody seems to have made yet:

There will be a top level iPod with 60GB!
Lineup could then be 20/40/60 or 30/60GB.

Reasons:
- Toshiba should have their new 30/60GB 1.8" HD ready and shipping by now and traditionally Apple is among the very first customers to receive.
- First time ever that there are only two iPod sizes available.

Still there is the question why Apple did not introduce the 4G iPod with a 60GB top model initially. I can only guess that Toshiba could not supply sufficient quantities of the new drives on time. Or is Steve punishing them for revealing Apple as a major buyer of their new HD?

On a sidenote, definitely not on Apple Expo: I am really curious to see what Apple will do with Toshiba's coming 0.85" drives. At the exact size of an SD-Card and a thickness of 3.5/5 mm they will hold 2/4GB! Energy consumption should also be considerably lower than that of the Microdrives.
iPod micro? iPod mini 8GB? iPod watch?

[Sorry, I accidentially postet this as a new topic when I actually wanted to add it to the Last Minute Predictions.]

[tonton]

All I know is if Apple introduced a 60GB iPod I'd buy one immediately.

[Gamblor]

Originally posted by iProphet
- First time since the introduction of the 2G iPods that there are only two iPod sizes available.


Fixed that for ya.

[monkeyastronaut]

I'm guessing if there's a 60 GB iPod it should do some new tricks, like have video-out to display iPhoto pics on a TV or your home folder.

That's a lot of space for just muzak.

[Powerdoc]

There will be an annoucement at Paris expo : the mysterious Apple's advertising.

I will not be original and I think that the Imac G5 will be announced. I won't understand that they will delay this announcement 2 or 3 week more. SJ love to make such show, but I am sure that after his not so fake neuroendocrin pancreas cancer, SJ certainly think at the future of Apple after him (and by after him, it can be a simple retirement).
It's time to push his dolphin in the spot-lights.

[TednDi]

Originally posted by monkeyastronaut
I'm guessing if there's a 60 GB iPod it should do some new tricks, like have video-out to display iPhoto pics on a TV or your home folder.

That's a lot of space for just muzak.

The thin client tablet (sort of) Some of this has already been discussed in other threads but I feel that a little rehash might be in order.

What about a smaller tablet like device that is an add on to the mac's own monitor kind of a mirror or client when needed. The mac's OS can support many simultaneous users why can't one of them use this little device. When not in use it can sit on an ipod like dock and charge and perhaps cycle through your iphotos like an ordinary picture frame. It could contain the new 60gb drive to hold the photos and music and use 802.11g to stream to the new airport express in itunes.

Perfect for web surfing showing photos and playing/remotely controlling itunes.

Add a little pen based input using inkwell and you have a personal media device. In any house you could have one or more around in different rooms. Also if you add this chamelion stuff then it could blend into the decor of any room. Spokes on the wheel of the digital hub.

For the prosumer it could double as a wacom cintiq like device for those times that a little photo retouching might be needed.

Price the little thing at less than the 12" ibook and in my opinion you would have a winnner.

I would buy one for the times that I want to use the mac while my wife wants to web surf.

also as hope springs eternal you could put a little iSight into the frame/tablet and have live video confrencing throughout the house. Like a Baby monitor or video intercom. I know that the difficulty is in the compression of the video stream but with the new QT codec it might be possible.

if at a later time apple added compressed video storage to it then you have in essence a tablet/video ipod/ iphoto frame and a market.

Tie in the video with TIVO downloads and you could take your season of star trek or friends with you on vacation for those long waits in the terminals. coupled with AE as a lightweight e-mail checker/ web surfer.

With an add on gps and cigarette lighter adapter an in car/out of car personal navigation device.

not a pda not an ipod not a vpod all of these things and more.


If apple could then make the little bugger windows friendly then it would be a good way to attract switchers.

[Ensign Pulver]

Originally posted by Powerdoc
There will be an annoucement at Paris expo : the mysterious Apple's advertising.

I will not be original and I think that the Imac G5 will be announced. I won't understand that they will delay this announcement 2 or 3 week more. SJ love to make such show, but I am sure that after his not so fake neuroendocrin pancreas cancer, SJ certainly think at the future of Apple after him (and by after him, it can be a simple retirement).
It's time to push his dolphin in the spot-lights.
I honestly didn't understand a word of this. :???:

[philbot]

maybe the chameleon technology will make it into the iPod?

Being white it's ideal because it could be lit from the inside by LED's.

It could throb red when bettery is low, blue during file transfer etc...

[dfiler]

Originally posted by Chris Cuilla
Why does everyone soooo want a tablet? This strikes me as a solution looking for a problem. Thankfully, people who actually buy computers realize that tablets aren't optimal 99.99% of the time. Tablet computers have been available for a decade now... and nobody buys them.

It seems young forum geeks are tablets' most vocal proponents. Rest assured, all but the wealthiest of them will opt for a desktop or laptop when it actually comes time to purchase a computer.


My last minute prediciton?
Wifi-Video and iTunes AV
One can dream right?
:)

[Heidi123]

Originally posted by philbot
maybe the chameleon technology will make it into the iPod?

Being white it's ideal because it could be lit from the inside by LED's.

It could throb red when bettery is low, blue during file transfer etc...

I totally agree? that would be awesome and could be a use for the 60g hard drives. the only problem with this from a marketing standpoint is that they already have demand>supply of ipods. i think they need another different product that all of the people who own ipods already will buy. novel prediction ( i think ):

a digital videocamera, apple branded, with 60g worth of storage space...

[tak1108]

I predict that at least Half of AI will be disapointed.

[Bancho]

Originally posted by tak1108
I predict that at least Half of AI will be disapointed.

That is the most reliable prediction I've seen yet ;)

[johnq]

Originally posted by Ensign Pulver
I honestly didn't understand a word of this. :???:

LOL.....I was going to say the same thing. But I felt it'd be too gauche of me to say it...imagine! :)

[philbot]

how about a digital camera with a 60Gb drive?

[TednDi]

Originally posted by philbot
how about a digital camera with a 60Gb drive?


or an mpeg 4 video camera that can double as isight for easy import to imovie and idvd....

[philbot]

could this be the new iPod?

New iPod!!! (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/phillip_briggs/images/ipod.mov)

;)

[Chris Cuilla]

Originally posted by philbot
how about a digital camera with a 60Gb drive?

Depends...

For a consumer, digital STILL camera, it seems that the 6GB 1" drive might be a better option. That is like TWENTY-FOUR of the largest memory sticks!

For a DV camera...60GB seems like a decent option. From what I can find it seems that DV video takes about 1GB to store 5 minutes of video. So a 60GB hd would store like 300 minutes! That's about FIVE Mini DV tapes.

Now, of course, you need to download it and erase the drive to do any more...but technically it is feasible.

[TednDi]

Originally posted by Chris Cuilla
Depends...

For a consumer, digital STILL camera, it seems that the 6GB 1" drive might be a better option. That is like TWENTY-FOUR of the largest memory sticks!

For a DV camera...60GB seems like a decent option. From what I can find it seems that DV video takes about 1GB to store 5 minutes of video. So a 60GB hd would store like 300 minutes! That's about FIVE Mini DV tapes.

Now, of course, you need to download it and erase the drive to do any more...but technically it is feasible.



isn't the new QT scaleable? so, you could have a video camera that can store up to 300 min of movies and presumeably have a small view screen.
So, why can't you import video too?

not a vpod but a vcam? or some such thing.

[Bancho]

Originally posted by Chris Cuilla
Depends...

For a consumer, digital STILL camera, it seems that the 6GB 1" drive might be a better option. That is like TWENTY-FOUR of the largest memory sticks!

For a DV camera...60GB seems like a decent option. From what I can find it seems that DV video takes about 1GB to store 5 minutes of video. So a 60GB hd would store like 300 minutes! That's about FIVE Mini DV tapes.

Now, of course, you need to download it and erase the drive to do any more...but technically it is feasible.

Maybe not practical though since the camera is dead weight until you are able to unload the video to free space on the drive. MiniDV tapes are a lot more versatile.

[TednDi]

how big is the 802.11g chip? can it fit into a small video cam?

could you broadcast the video to another device like a 4g ipod with wifi built in?

[Chris Cuilla]

Originally posted by Bancho
Maybe not practical though since the camera is dead weight until you are able to unload the video to free space on the drive. MiniDV tapes are a lot more versatile.

That is true. However it presumes that people actually care. I don't know enough about how people actually use the cameras...does anyone take it on vacation and use more that five MiniDV tapes? Maybe. Maybe not. Still, your point is valid.

[Chris Cuilla]

Originally posted by TednDi
how big is the 802.11g chip? can it fit into a small video cam?

could you broadcast the video to another device like a 4g ipod with wifi built in?

First, probably teh chip size isn't the issue. Power is.

Second...why do you want to do this?

[Bancho]

Originally posted by Chris Cuilla
That is true. However it presumes that people actually care. I don't know enough about how people actually use the cameras...does anyone take it on vacation and use more that five MiniDV tapes? Maybe. Maybe not. Still, your point is valid.

I'm not a big fan of making videos on vacation. It gets in the way of actually enjoying the vacation ;) .

I think my deal with it is that with such capacity I would want the recorded video stored safely on a removable piece (or more) of media rather than hoping I've got enough space on my main computer for 60GB worth of data.

As you already said, the tech exists to make this reality. Now we just need to know what the point of it is :) and what would actually set it apart from the multitude of existing cameras already on the market.

[TednDi]

you could use the device with built in 60gb hard drive. Take all of your vacation video then transfer the info wirelessly to a laptop or if you needed more than 60gb you could use a 4g ipod as a secondary storage device.

if the device could also be used as an isight then it might prove to be an interesting device.

Just thinking out loud with no clear direction.

[Bancho]

Originally posted by Chris Cuilla
First, probably teh chip size isn't the issue. Power is.

Second...why do you want to do this?

TednDi is the resident idea man. Apple has guys like him locked in closets for the sole purpose of generating ideas which they thoroughly filter and process before creating solutions. :)

[TednDi]

Thanks!,

I am also available for weddings and bar/bat mitzvas!

;)

[TWinbrook46636]

Originally posted by Ensign Pulver
I honestly didn't understand a word of this. :???:

I've noticed many AI members post when high so you need to take this into consideration. :smokey:

[Bancho]

Originally posted by TWinbrook46636
I've noticed many AI members post when high so you need to take this into consideration. :smokey:

Can babelfish translate "Drunk" or "Stoned"?

[cubist]

Originally posted by Chris Cuilla
...does anyone take it on vacation and use more that five MiniDV tapes? Maybe. Maybe not. ...

Ah, but you want the initial model to be kinda small (e.g. 5GB iPod) so that it's cheaper and creates demand for future, bigger units.

[Chris Cuilla]

Originally posted by Bancho
I'm not a big fan of making videos on vacation. It gets in the way of actually enjoying the vacation ;) .

I agree.


I think my deal with it is that with such capacity I would want the recorded video stored safely on a removable piece (or more) of media rather than hoping I've got enough space on my main computer for 60GB worth of data.

I agree.

As you already said, the tech exists to make this reality. Now we just need to know what the point of it is :) and what would actually set it apart from the multitude of existing cameras already on the market.

True. And maybe there is no point. Just because something CAN be done, doesn't mean it SHOULD be. Apple seems to realize this.

[MacGraham]

Originally posted by Placebo
I'd personally like to see the Geforce 6800 to be confirmed as shipping by the end of September.



Announcing Doom3 for Mac in partnership with Id would be nice, but no shit it's not going to happen.


It really isn't worth the wait. Its a pretty game but pretty dull.

Value announcing HL2 for Mac would be a nice.

[geobe]

My Predictions:

1) G5 iMac
2) 60 Gig Video iPod - Allow importing of iMovies onto iPod and plays on TV through Tv inputs.
3) iSight 2
4) Tiger updates and hopefully a new CONSUMER application making it worth buying. iChat Conference features aren't enough in my opinion.
5) 250+ Wireless Network Hard Drive
6) 2 New .Mac features - they will need something new and compelling for the upcoming renewal season.
7) Xsan demonstration
8) iMovie update with some low level Motion features.
9) Phone/Answering Machine Software - This is a candidate for 1 of the new .Mac features/integration.

[monkeyastronaut]

Originally posted by Bancho
I'm not a big fan of making videos on vacation. It gets in the way of actually enjoying the vacation ;) .


I know! Or taking pictures at DisneyWorld. You end up more concerned about not getting the camera wet on Splash Mountain than enjoying the trip. hehe

I'm done trying to document vacations. :lol:

[RnSK]

I'd like people to post what they have NOW (computer/iPod/PDA/Whatever) when they post some of this crap.

I'm willing to be that the folks pining for all of this Pie-In-The-Sky UooberKrap (Supersized iPods/Video Thingess/MagicFantasic Tablet-o-matic) have some of the *oldest*/low spec Apple products available :)

Can you really take seriously the unrealistic stuff that gets posted/predicted(wished for, more like it) from someone thats pimpin' an iMacDV400, 1G iPod and a 1Megapixel HP camera?

There is GOOD STUFF out there now kids...you just have to part with the ducats.

My prediction is for:

1. iMac G5 that no one here will like, but Apple will sell a lot of.
2. A boring rehash of a non-existant version of MacOS X 10.4, made for keynote showoff...(unlike the crap Apple foisted on us dev's....grrr)
3. some damned gadgety thing that I will buy and enjoy, and YOU will bellyache about cost/size/phase of the moon


My crap:

2x2Ghz G5 .5 Gig Ram 2 160GB drives 20" Cinema Display iPod 3G (ugh! stupid buttons) 20GB Silver iPod Mini and assorted other crap :)

[JPN]

I'm still waiting for some sort of useful implementation on the Inkwell technology that came out so many years ago. It'd be nice to see some sort of uber-portable computer with a touch sensitive screen; more than a palm or pocketpc, but not necessarily as much power as an iBook.

[spyker]

i think apple will unvail triple monitor support for professinals using dual graphics card technolgy. This would be useful for health care pros, as suggested that something around this area would be unvailed.

check here http://www.apple.com/fr/

[monkeyastronaut]

Originally posted by RnSK
I'd like people to post what they have NOW (computer/iPod/PDA/Whatever) when they post some of this crap.

My crap:

2x2Ghz G5 .5 Gig Ram 2 160GB drives 20" Cinema Display iPod 3G (ugh! stupid buttons) 20GB Silver iPod Mini and assorted other crap :)

PowerBook G4, 1GHz, 512 RAM, 60 GB. iPod 3G (15 GB), 4.1 Megapixel canon camera

I WANT A DAMN TABLET, DAMNIT. hehehe :grumble: Hope you heard, me Steve-o.

[Powerdoc]

Originally posted by Ensign Pulver
I honestly didn't understand a word of this. :???:

OK , here a new version. I hope it will be more clear.

There will be an annoucement at Apple Paris, and Apple already announced that a new Imac is on the way.

Generally SJ is presenting the keynote, in case of big announcements. This year it's not the case, because of his pancreatic surgery, but it's not a reason why the presentation of the new Imac will be delayed. The new Imac was scheduled to be announced and shipped two months ago. Unluckily the lack of some componements (certainly the PPC 970 fx) did not allow it. Now it's urgent for Apple to announce it. Some others big guy of Apple like Phil Schiller will do the keynote. Afterall phil is the dolphin of Steve Jobs (dolphin was the name given to the prince who will take the throne after the king death) and it's time for him to be under the spotlights.
When you discover that you have a cancer (and even if you have the best chances to be cured), you are becoming aware, that you will not be here forever, and that you have to prepare the future.

edit : replace the word dolphin by Dauphin. In french dauphin is the word dolphin. The dauphin use to live in the dauphine (Grenoble aera, and a small town namend Crolles), and was represented by a dolphin.
Sorry for this confusion : sometimes there is no need to translate words :D

[satchmo]

My guess:
The iMac will have a optional detachable 17" & 20" LCD displays.

This is the only possible way for Apple to hit the sweet spot of $1000. This would be a bare bones 1.6 GHZ G5 without a display. Even this is a stretch.

$700 and $1000 extra for a 17" and 20" LCD displays respectively. Perhaps they will have a special connector which will make it work only with the iMac. Apple has a history of doing stuff like that. Or, it may just have no "legs" so it's either iMac or wall mountable only.

I feel it in my bones...this is the future direction of the iMac.;)

[OrbitPink]

I think that Schiller may not be such a shoe-in for the passing of the torch, from Jobs to him. We'll see, but I just think by the time Jobs leaves, there ought to be a younger, experienced, and more charismatic and genuine candidate for Apple's top job.

[Messiah]

When I returned home earlier today my new copy of MacUser (UK) was waiting for me. They have details of the new iMac, and the unusual thing is that their coverage of Paris is all written in the past tense.

Either they know something we don't, or they're (uncharacteristically) sticking their necks out on this one...

:\

[bozonator]

Hi guys,

My prediction is about the same as I posted a few weeks ago.

Purely based on Steve's hint at a half dome during the Spotlight demo during WWDC I think the iMac will feature a 17 and 20 inch LCD attached to a half-dome by a hinge similar to the one on the new displays. It will be aluminium and will be available in the same colours as the iPod mini.

Using the latest in rendering technology I made the following illustrations:


/
/
/
/
/o/----._
/ \
/ | <---- Cables go here
-----------



|
| <---- hmmm adjustable display :-)
|
|
|o/----._
/ \
/ |
------------


+------------+
| |
| |
| |
+------------+
/ ____ \ <--- yep a slot loading optical drive
|________| <---- with kind of hard to see speakers
on each side.



So there you go...

If I'm right maybe I should go out and buy some better render software...

---------
Bozonator
---------

[crosten]

So if you really have the details from MacUser, SPILL 'EM!

Originally posted by Messiah
When I returned home earlier today my new copy of MacUser (UK) was waiting for me. They have details of the new iMac, and the unusual thing is that their coverage of Paris is all written in the past tense.

Either they know something we don't, or they're (uncharacteristically) sticking their necks out on this one...

:\

[Cougar]

I have a feeling all they are going to announce is 1.8 Ghz iMacs. Perhaps a new device that uses the new 60 GB hard drive, but I doubt it.

[bangstudios]

Originally posted by Cougar
I have a feeling all they are going to announce is 1.8 Ghz iMacs. Perhaps a new device that uses the new 60 GB hard drive, but I doubt it.

Hmmm ... I hope you're wrong here. I've been reading about a 1.6 (education only), a 1.8 and a 2.0. Some of the reasoning given for the 2.0 is pretty persuasive as well; it has to do with the late release of the machine.

Ah well, only 12 hours or so until we all know for sure! :D

[MacsRGood4U]

There's nothing new on the MacUser UK site today. On Friday they posted the story abolut the iMac in the Paris lift and said "it has the air of authenticity"!!!!!! Tsk, tsk.

[little mouse]

Where is junkyard dawg when you need him?

[Cougar]

Originally posted by bangstudios
Hmmm ... I hope you're wrong here. I've been reading about a 1.6 (education only), a 1.8 and a 2.0. Some of the reasoning given for the 2.0 is pretty persuasive as well; it has to do with the late release of the machine.

Ah well, only 12 hours or so until we all know for sure! :D

I hope I am wrong, too. But ThinkSecret's specs seem very realistic, and when they do post specs they are just about always right. 1.8 will be an expected dissappointment, 2.0 will be a happy suprise!

[bangstudios]

Originally posted by Cougar
I hope I am wrong, too. But ThinkSecret's specs seem very realistic, and when they do post specs they are just about always right. 1.8 will be an expected dissappointment, 2.0 will be a happy suprise!

Here's the specs posted on Applebuzz:

Single G5 processors across the board, from 1.6 to 2.0 GHz
17" or 20" integrated LCD displays
80 or 160 GB hard drives. Only one internal HD
Combo or SuperDrive (also only one internal optical drive)
256 or 512MB RAM standard. Two RAM slots.
geForce 5200 or ATI 9600XT graphics hardware
A true all-in-one form factor. No more "sunflower"

I also saw mention of a 2.0 GHz iMac on MOSR, so look at all of this with strong skepticism! :D

[RnSK]

Originally posted by monkeyastronaut
PowerBook G4, 1GHz, 512 RAM, 60 GB. iPod 3G (15 GB), 4.1 Megapixel canon camera

I WANT A DAMN TABLET, DAMNIT. hehehe :grumble: Hope you heard, me Steve-o.


ENOUGH with the TABLET crap people. Tablet computers offer *nothing* greater than a !" or so thick laptop does, and LACK the one thing that would make a them useful: a freakin' keyboard.

What's more, Apple, knowing this, knows also that they can bring *nothing* to the table to "improve" tablet "computing" but OS X...and even that won't help because...

Tablet computing sucks. Its not MS's fault...its just...

Bad :)

-K

[RnSK]

Originally posted by satchmo
My guess:
The iMac will have a optional detachable 17" & 20" LCD displays.

This is the only possible way for Apple to hit the sweet spot of $1000. This would be a bare bones 1.6 GHZ G5 without a display. Even this is a stretch.


Might not be aware of this, but I don't think *Apple* has *any* interest in hitting this mythical "sweet spot" WHATSOEVER.

There is no, none, nada ZERO indication in anything Apple has done with the iMac line outside of the stripped Indigo's of the late 90's that has even remotely *hinted* that Apple has any notion or interest in this space with the iMac line *whatsoever* :)

-K

[applenut]

Originally posted by RnSK
Might not be aware of this, but I don't think *Apple* has *any* interest in hitting this mythical "sweet spot" WHATSOEVER.

There is no, none, nada ZERO indication in anything Apple has done with the iMac line outside of the stripped Indigo's of the late 90's that has even remotely *hinted* that Apple has any notion or interest in this space with the iMac line *whatsoever* :)

-K

um. except for apple saying several times including the last financial conference call that the iMac was not selling well do to being priced above the "sweet spot" of 999 and that they don't have a strong offering there.

they have said that several times now. so, there is indication

[RnSK]

You're on crack...( ok, well that's a bit much...sorry)

Apple has made, and has been selling like nuts, a G4 consumer machine well under that price.


Look people, Apple isn't going to make a G5 for less than a grand with PCI Slot/Slots for you to swap stuff in and out of.

NOBODY buys the Low End so they can upgrade it latter...Apple's own sales numbers show this...time and time again.

I guess if some of you guys were in "the biz" a lot more of what you say here would be sensible :D

-K

[TWinbrook46636]

Originally posted by monkeyastronaut

I WANT A DAMN TABLET, DAMNIT. hehehe :grumble: Hope you heard, me Steve-o.

Why? Seriously.

[applenut]

Originally posted by RnSK
You're on crack...( ok, well that's a bit much...sorry)

Apple has made, and has been selling like nuts, a G4 consumer machine well under that price.


Look people, Apple isn't going to make a G5 for less than a grand with PCI Slot/Slots for you to swap stuff in and out of.

NOBODY buys the Low End so they can upgrade it latter...Apple's own sales numbers show this...time and time again.

I guess if some of you guys were in "the biz" a lot more of what you say here would be sensible :D

-K

and you're an idiot.

all you have to do is listen to the last conference call to be proven wrong

dont tell me im on crack when i say correct you on something

[ArticulatedArm]

Why? Seriously.

Is this your first time on the internet?

[ArticulatedArm]

Originally posted by RnSK
You're on crack...( ok, well that's a bit much...sorry)

Apple has made, and has been selling like nuts, a G4 consumer machine well under that price.


Look people, Apple isn't going to make a G5 for less than a grand with PCI Slot/Slots for you to swap stuff in and out of.

NOBODY buys the Low End so they can upgrade it latter...Apple's own sales numbers show this...time and time again.

I guess if some of you guys were in "the biz" a lot more of what you say here would be sensible :D

-K


You mean because you don't want one no one else in the world should want one? how old are you -- 9 years old or something?

[monkeyastronaut]

Originally posted by RnSK
ENOUGH with the TABLET crap people. Tablet computers offer *nothing* greater than a !" or so thick laptop does, and LACK the one thing that would make a them useful: a freakin' keyboard.

What's more, Apple, knowing this, knows also that they can bring *nothing* to the table to "improve" tablet "computing" but OS X...and even that won't help because...

Tablet computing sucks. Its not MS's fault...its just...

Bad :)

-K

Not as you know them. I think of tablets are a desktop mirror. Not as a tabletpc kind of thing. That'd be useful, or an iReader where you can read docs on the go, anyway, this has been discussed to death in other threads. I'm kinda lazy to type now.

[RnSK]

Originally posted by ArticulatedArm
You mean because you don't want one no one else in the world should want one? how old are you -- 9 years old or something?

Actually, I'm 35.

That being said...

Look at the numbers. The vocal types that frequent these forums time and time again whine about the same old Apple pricing or whatever.

When Apple produces a line of machines with something on the bottom, its always 'too crippled' or whatever...no one buys them. The demand is always for the high end (especially in the pro space) and the prosumer machines don't sell.

Look at the numbers. Apple always has the "$800 off" offering, but thats not what people, according to the sales, really want. Folks always talk about the pricing, but never want the compromises required for Apple to produce machines in that range.

And seeing that trend, Apple forges ever forward with "The Plan."

Like they will tomorrow :)

-K

[RnSK]

Originally posted by monkeyastronaut
Not as you know them. I think of tablets are a desktop mirror. Not as a tabletpc kind of thing. That'd be useful, or an iReader where you can read docs on the go, anyway, this has been discussed to death in other threads. I'm kinda lazy to type now.

Thin clients have also proven to be a failure pretty much, in the space that would benefit most from them. Sounds like you are describing a consumer sort of wireless thin clent.

Assure you if Apple made one to Apple spec, it would be at least "$300 too much." ;)

-K

[rok]

so, is anyone going to go directory-diving later tonight at time canada?

just sayin'...

[monkeyastronaut]

Originally posted by RnSK
Thin clients have also proven to be a failure pretty much, in the space that would benefit most from them. Sounds like you are describing a consumer sort of wireless thin clent.

Assure you if Apple made one to Apple spec, it would be at least "$300 too much." ;)

-K

well, i've never complained about apple's pricing. :p

i believe you get what you pay for

[RnSK]

Originally posted by rok
so, is anyone going to go directory-diving later tonight at time canada?

just sayin'...


Heheheheh :D

Nice one :)

[rtdunham]

Originally posted by Powerdoc
Afterall phil is the dolphin of Steve Jobs (dolphin was the name...

dauphin...it's phil, not phlipper. :)

td

[RnSK]

Originally posted by monkeyastronaut
well, i've never complained about apple's pricing. :p

i believe you get what you pay for

I believe this as well. I also don't believe Apple could design somethng like that to meet the pricing...requirements...of enough folks to pay for what they could, and would, mass-produce. *Everything* matters to Apple, and I just don't think they have it in them to make the compromises they'd have to to get it done, ya' know?

The iPod is about as "bad" a machine as Apple could ever eek out for that dollar amount. If they were a different company, had different "corporate DNA"...then maybe.

But I think the folks that run Apple have limitations to what they are willing to produce, or allow others to do so, with their name on it.

I've never seen a $400 computing product of Apple calibre...ever. 'Cept for the iPod.

Like that comedian says... "there's yer sign." :)

[RnSK]

Originally posted by applenut
and you're an idiot.

all you have to do is listen to the last conference call to be proven wrong

dont tell me im on crack when i say correct you on something

Ah but you haven't, really...at least until we see what happens tomorrow...

because those calls are for folks that want to speculate on stock, at least coming from Apple. They really don't use them as "Roadmaps" like other companies do...nor could they anyway.

The *record* speaks volumes tho...or like the old folks say:

"actions speak louder than words."

If Apple sphincters a $999 AIO G5 iMac I got no problem coming back here and saying "I was wrong...sooo wrong. I couldn't have been more wrong if my name was Wrongy Wrongenstein!" (Man I love Penn Gillette...heheh)

Somehow tho'...I'm thinking it just won't be an issue...Apple will come thru with a kicazz AIO thats just about $300 - $400 more than "the Gallery" would like :D

-K

[brianru]

I think that Steve Jobs will be the one last thing as he appears from his new iMac using the new iSight with tiger showing off the h.264 support. He than shows off the iMac. Also, since these 60gb hard drive's are so small, couldn't you take them and use them in a computer? Couldn't you stick one of those suckers in a powerbook, and now have a much smaller, less power consuming hd with fewer heat emissions? Possibly leaving room for a g5?

[RnSK]

Originally posted by brianru
Couldn't you stick one of those suckers in a powerbook, and now have a much smaller, less power consuming hd with fewer heat emissions? Possibly leaving room for a g5?

'member that announced, but quietly pulled "Home on iPod" Panther feature?

Well besides the (very intellegent) decision to not position the iPod as a "hard drive with a screen that plays music" the other problem is performance. Those drives are pokey man, and have a lower MTBF than the bigger ones.

If you have an iPod mini, what I'm talking about is thrown into even sharper relief.

so while it would be technically possible, I don't think that the performance/feel would be up to Apple standards...so I couldn't seem them engineering something like that.

But you're *thinking*...a welcome change indeed :)

-K

[brianru]

Yeah, oh well. Maybe two piggy-backing on eachother.:lol:

[mavster]

got a feelin this is coming..



http://idisk.mac.com/tnm-Public/4240511.jpg

[satchmo]

Originally posted by RnSK
Look people, Apple isn't going to make a G5 for less than a grand with PCI Slot/Slots for you to swap stuff in and out of.


Who said anything about slots and expandability?

But hey, it's all fun and conjecture here. Frankly, it could go either way. Perhaps it's wishful thinking on my part. But for Apple to even make a dent in the consumer space, they badly need to hit a homerun with this 3rd gen iMac.
Otherwise, it's another year of iPod this and iPod that! :)

[Cougar]

Haha. Macosrumors makes me laugh. :lol:

We think that Apple will either not announce an iMac G5 at Paris Expo this week, or the Powerbook update will come later in the year -- probably not sooner than November, but also not later than February.

How can they not be certain that there will be iMacs tomorrow? :lol:

[kontact]

For any doubters out there about the cpu being behind the screen and the rest of the guts with it, it will certainly all be behind the monitor. Certified and true.

[TWinbrook46636]

Originally posted by ArticulatedArm
Is this your first time on the internet?

What's with the attitude? I just asked him why he wanted one so badly. I don't get the whole tablet idea. Might be good for the medical field but how would the average user benefit?

[RnSK]

Originally posted by TWinbrook46636
What's with the attitude? I just asked him why he wanted one so badly. I don't get the whole tablet idea. Might be good for the medical field but how would the average user benefit?

Well, I think a 'thin client wireless screen' could be nice, but if Apple makes it, its gonna be *waaaay* too good for most folks. Somebody dis a like an iPod dock screen mockup thingee. That's about the only way i could see Apple implementing it (really thin and light) so it would be at least $600 with no compute power.

That's probably more tham most would pay for a 12" screen tho.

As for a full blown tablet pc tho? Naaaaaah :D

-K

[johnq]

Originally posted by TWinbrook46636
What's with the attitude? I just asked him why he wanted one so badly. I don't get the whole tablet idea. Might be good for the medical field but how would the average user benefit?

That's like saying "Why would anyone need a keyboard? Might be good for the legal field but how would the average user benefit?". Pretending the clipboard way of holding a computer and pen based input are too complex for normal users is like saying typing is too complex. It's a false assumption. it's just that so many tablets have been too bulky, poorly implemented and poorly marketed.

Holding a tablet (if light enough) like a pad of paper and writing directly onscreen feels very natural. It is far more mobile. Average users would love it so long as the input method is at least as "flawless" as the keyboard and mouse are. Plus tablets could snap on to a stand and be used as mere displays too, old style, so you could use a mouse and keyboard.

There were plenty of crummy MP3 players on the market prior to the iPod. But Apple took the idea and ran with it and exploded the market. I think Apple could do the same for a tablet form factor. There is nothing inherently wrong with it, just that prior implementations were lacking. Apple should do to the tablet what Palm did to the Newton...refine, redesign, and market the hell out of it as a new thing, to hell with what came before. (As Apple is doing with iPod).

[Eaon]

Originally posted by johnq
That's like saying "Why would anyone need a keyboard? Might be good for the legal field but how would the average user benefit?". Pretending the clipboard way of holding a computer and pen based input are too complex for normal users is like saying typing is too complex. It's a false assumption. it's just that so many tablets have been too bulky, poorly implemented and poorly marketed.

If by poorly marketed you mean too darn expensive, then you've hit the nail on the head. Everyone I've ever talked to about them says "Oh, that'd be so cool, just hold it like a clipboard. I'm sorry, it costs how much? Forget it, I'll use a keyboard". I know two people with tablets. They both won them in contests (my friends are far luckier than I ever am). People always mention the medical industry because a) that's what the major media always say, and b) doctors can afford them.

The other side of the marketing thing, from a personal point of view, is if they can get the handwriting recognition to work right, make sure the world knows that. I'm so jaded by Graffiti I don't ever want to touch a "handwriting recognition" piece of hardware ever again. :grumble:

[applenut]

Originally posted by RnSK
Ah but you haven't, really...at least until we see what happens tomorrow...

because those calls are for folks that want to speculate on stock, at least coming from Apple. They really don't use them as "Roadmaps" like other companies do...nor could they anyway.

The *record* speaks volumes tho...or like the old folks say:

"actions speak louder than words."

If Apple sphincters a $999 AIO G5 iMac I got no problem coming back here and saying "I was wrong...sooo wrong. I couldn't have been more wrong if my name was Wrongy Wrongenstein!" (Man I love Penn Gillette...heheh)

Somehow tho'...I'm thinking it just won't be an issue...Apple will come thru with a kicazz AIO thats just about $300 - $400 more than "the Gallery" would like :D

-K

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Originally posted by Eaon
The other side of the marketing thing, from a personal point of view, is if they can get the handwriting recognition to work right, make sure the world knows that. I'm so jaded by Graffiti I don't ever want to touch a "handwriting recognition" piece of hardware ever again. :grumble:

It must work and be convenient otherwise users will prefer their current input methods. In the tablet's case, usually a pen is replacing both mouse and keyboard so it has to kick ass.

Remember the Newton and how eventually they made eMates with a built-in keyboard. Think about Palm who is now releasing keyboard-equipped PDAs.

Right now I guarantee that most tablets stay in laptop mode as long as that's an option.