Dick Morris-Calls it perfect

[trumptman]

Why Kerry will lose (http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/28733.htm)

Morris, the one person who probably helped Clinton the most and ISN'T currently with the Kerry campaign calls Kerry's flawed campaign perfectly.

His points...

Kerry's basic problem is that he has no overview of how he's going to win. His consultants and staff confuse a pile of ammunition with a strategy.

But beyond the basic question of whether to run a positive or a negative campaign, Kerry has not solved the core conundrum that has haunted him from the day he won the nomination: whether to run as a hawk or a dove.

Finally we have this one...

Lockhart and McCurry face the same problem that Shrum encountered before them: They have a candidate who can't figure out why he's running. Kerry doesn't have a strategy because he don't have an agenda or even clear issue positions.

Morris gets right, what so many here get wrong. They blame the electorate for their problems of their candidate. It isn't about "nuance" it isn't about voting against their own economic interests, religious fanatics, or just being stupid. Kerry, for being so supposedly smart, just can't figure himself or his strategy out and just run clearly on it.

Kerry's position on Iraq isn't about nuance. It is about his own divided voter base. His own back and forth claims constantly reflect this and as Morris mentioned, I'm looking forward to the debates when he can be pinned down on it.

As for an agenda, Kerry has not articulated one. He offers periodic criticism and the occasional plan, but nothing comprehensive.

Nick

[hardeeharhar]

And Bush offers us what?


We are seeing the end of the American politician here, both candidates have completely hidden plans (if any at all) and are running a campaign on the short 30 second commentary that the evening news is willing to devote to the election. For some reason, a Boy Scout helping a crotchety old woman across the street is more important than the national election (or a murder, or a car accident involving a police officer)...

Where are the days of the evening specials where a candidate pays for thirty minutes of air time and tells the world that the only gift he has taken from lobbyist is a dog...

[Kirkland]

This is the same Dick Morris who in the Spring was saying Hillary Clinton was going to jump into the race at the last minute and steal the Democratic nod. No one takes him seriously anymore.

And in any case, he only helped Clinton in the 1996 cakewalk against Bob Dole. Morris wasn't there for the real race in 1992.

[Scott]

Originally posted by hardeeharhar
And Bush offers us what?
...

QED

[faust9]

Originally posted by Scott
QED

Exactly!!! What has Bush demonstrated there Scott?

[MarcUK]

Originally posted by Scott
QED

Someone tell me what QED means. I understand it as Quantum ElectroDynamics, which my reading comprehension tells me is not correct.

[faust9]

Originally posted by MarcUK
Someone tell me what QED means. I understand it as Quantum ElectroDynamics, which my reading comprehension tells me is not correct.

It's latin for quod erat demonstrandum which means "that which was to be demonstrated."

Basically Scott says Bush's next for years will be a replay of his last by using QED.

[MarcUK]

Gee, thats a damn good reason for voting for Bush, Scott:no:

[Scott]

For those that still don't get it. The point is the election for Kerry is not about Bush it's about Kerry. Kerry has no focus. His only reply for questions is, "well what about Bush? blah blah blah"

Kerry tried to run on Vietnam and "anybody but Bush". Now he's only left with "anybody but Bush" and it aint winning. His campaign isn't about anything. He doesn't give you a reason to vote for him other than he's not the other guy.

[SDW2001]

Originally posted by Scott
For those that still don't get it. The point is the election for Kerry is not about Bush it's about Kerry. Kerry has no focus. His only reply for questions is, "well what about Bush? blah blah blah"

Kerry tried to run on Vietnam and "anybody but Bush". Now he's only left with "anybody but Bush" and it aint winning. His campaign isn't about anything. He doesn't give you a reason to vote for him other than he's not the other guy.

Bingo. I sit in utter amazement as the following conversations take place:

Person 1: Kerry's campaign is going badly

Person 2: Bush is stupid! He's a warmonger! Out the door in 2004!

Person 1: But what will Kerry do differently?

Person 2: Bush has failed in Iraq. It's his war.

Person 1: But I was talking about Kerry's campaign. He keeps talking about
Vietnam, which isn't a good idea. Where does he stand and what
will he change!

Person 2: What about Bush's Vietnam record? He avoided service. He
shirked his duty!

Person 1: Uh, OK. But getting back to Kerry....focusing on Vietnam hasn't
been good for him politically.

Person 2: Why are you voting for the criminal Bush?

Person 1: Uh...well....fair enough. I'm voting for him because I agree with
him on his WOT approach and tax cuts. I agree with him on a host
of other issues...but not all. For example, I disagree about the
gay marriage amendment and the faith based charities. I also am
not happy the deficit. I'm voting for Bush because I think he'll be
better than Kerry.

Person 2: Bush is terrible! He [insert list of things the President is to blame
for]

Person 1: OK, you disagree. Why are you voting for Kerry?

Person 2: Bush has......


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Morris's best point is that Kerry's own voters don't like him very much. Bush was vulnerable. Perhaps he still is. The Dems went with the wrong guy. Face it.

By the way, trashing Morris is pretty dumb. Morris engineered Clinton's victory in 1996. He pulled Clinton to the right and helped him secure the election. Morris is usually right.

[bunge]

Originally posted by SDW2001
Person 1: But what will Kerry do differently?

Person 2: Bush has failed in Iraq. It's his war.

Perhaps Kerry can prevent this (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/latimests/20040919/ts_latimes/whisperedinrussiademocracyisfinished) from getting too far out of hand. Yes, Bush is failing the civilized world. I'm more and more convinced that a steaming turd couldn't do worse than Bush.

[Scott]

Originally posted by bunge
Perhaps Kerry can prevent this (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/latimests/20040919/ts_latimes/whisperedinrussiademocracyisfinished) from getting too far out of hand. Yes, Bush is failing the civilized world. I'm more and more convinced that a steaming turd couldn't do worse than Bush.

Yea but people aren't going to vote for "couldn't do worse". I might vote for "better". One thing I do know is that Kerry will see the issue from every side and may never come to a conclusion and take action.

[hardeeharhar]

Originally posted by Scott
Yea but people aren't going to vote for "couldn't do worse". I might vote for "better". One thing I do know is that Kerry will see the issue from every side and may never come to a conclusion and take action.

Better to understand the options than to choose blindly. Indecision isn't the same as understanding all sides.

[SDW2001]

Originally posted by bunge
Perhaps Kerry can prevent this (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/latimests/20040919/ts_latimes/whisperedinrussiademocracyisfinished) from getting too far out of hand. Yes, Bush is failing the civilized world. I'm more and more convinced that a steaming turd couldn't do worse than Bush.

bunge, you're going down in flames. I always knew you were liberal, but now you just sound silly.

[SDW2001]

Originally posted by hardeeharhar
Better to understand the options than to choose blindly. Indecision isn't the same as understanding all sides.

What a joke.

[trumptman]

Originally posted by hardeeharhar
Better to understand the options than to choose blindly. Indecision isn't the same as understanding all sides.

Exactly which is why Bush, acting on terrorism and acting on Iraq is still considered better than Kerry who claims to understand and attempt to placate all sides to the point of sounding and acting indecisive.

Nick

[bunge]

Originally posted by SDW2001
bunge, you're going down in flames. I always knew you were liberal, but now you just sound silly.

That's because the comment about the steaming turd was silly.

[tonton]

Sometimes, the concensus, and the PROPER CHOICE is to take no action. Yep Bush took action. Bush took action that has led to a greater threat on America and a greater general hatred for Americans than has ever been seen.

Taking no action is not a bad thing. Taking the WRONG action, as Bush clearly continues to do without a second thought, is definitely a bad thing.

Bush is leading us straight into World War III.

[ghost killa]

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[ghost killa]

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[SDW2001]

Originally posted by tonton
Sometimes, the concensus, and the PROPER CHOICE is to take no action. Yep Bush took action. Bush took action that has led to a greater threat on America and a greater general hatred for Americans than has ever been seen.

Taking no action is not a bad thing. Taking the WRONG action, as Bush clearly continues to do without a second thought, is definitely a bad thing.

Bush is leading us straight into World War III.

Except we already are in WWIII. We've been for at leat 6 years. We just didn't know it.

[Scott]

I thought we were in the 4th one?

[Wrong Robot]

Originally posted by Scott
I thought we were in the 4th one?

Somebody didn't get the memo...