Pledge Protection Act Passes House

[THT]

H.R.2028 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:HR02028:@@@L&summ2=m&)
Title: To amend title 28, United States Code, with respect to the jurisdiction of Federal courts over certain cases and controversies involving the Pledge of Allegiance.

Sponsor: Rep Akin, W. Todd [MO-2] (introduced 5/8/2003) Cosponsors (226)
Related Bills: H.RES.781

Latest Major Action: 9/23/2004 Passed/agreed to in House. Status: On passage Passed by the Yeas and Nays: 247 - 173 (Roll no. 467).
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SUMMARY AS OF:
5/8/2003--Introduced.

Pledge Protection Act of 2003 - Amends the Federal judicial code to deny jurisdiction to any court established by Act of Congress to hear or determine any claim that the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance violates the first amendment of the Constitution.

The vote breakdown is here (http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2004/roll467.xml).

Will the Senate consider the bill before elections?

[New]

Could someone explain this to an ignorant european...

[Anders]

Originally posted by New
Could someone explain this to an ignorant european...

Something to do with where and when yuo are allowed to speak about santa claus.

[THT]

Originally posted by New
Could someone explain this to an ignorant european...

The House of Congress is passing a law that strips away the powers of American courts to hear cases involving the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance.

Ie, they want to deny any citizen who has issues with the pledge of allegiance redress of their grievances. They are passing a law in direct violation of the 1st ammendment to the constitution of the USA. They are doing it to protect some nutty athiest from trying to get "under God" out of the pledge by eliminating the courts ability from hearing such a case.

[NJ Tom]

Originally posted by THT
The House of Congress is passing a law that strips away the powers of American courts to hear cases involving the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance.

Ie, they want to deny any citizen who has issues with the pledge of allegiance redress of their grievances. They are passing a law in direct violation of the 1st ammendment to the constitution of the USA. They are doing it to protect some nutty athiest from trying to get "under God" out of the pledge by eliminating the courts ability from hearing such a case.

Would that not be unconstitutional?

[Gavriel]

Is the Pledge of Allegiance mandatory in american schools? Can a parent demand that their children be freed from the task of reciting the pledge?

[Outsider]

Originally posted by Gavriel
Is the Pledge of Allegiance mandatory in american schools? Can a parent demand that their children be freed from the task of reciting the pledge? It's not mandatory, or at least it wasn't when I was a kid.

[Aquatic]

That is NOT the point. That was a piece of crap added in from McCarthy (damn that guy was an ass!) It is religious. Government is supposed to be SECULAR. You don't have to be a fucking genius to get this: separation of church and state. It should be removed. However, America always has been and will for a long time be a Theocracy. If God existed I would kick his ass for shit like this.

[IonYz]

Originally posted by Aquatic
That is NOT the point. That was a piece of crap added in from McCarthy (damn that guy was an ass!) It is religious. Government is supposed to be SECULAR. You don't have to be a fucking genius to get this: separation of church and state. It should be removed. However, America always has been and will for a long time be a Theocracy. If God existed I would kick his ass for shit like this.

:lol: Sorry, though but thats just funny. Right on, and all that. Just the wording you chose. Clever.

Seriously, just have "under God" removed. Better then passing a law that prevents people from complaining about it. Seems like a childish maneuver here.

[Scott]

Of course the law does not prevent people from complaining about it. It also does not prevent the USSC from hearing a case about this issue. Which considering this law would prevent every other federal court from hearing the case I'm sure the USSC would be eager to hear it. As long as there's a constitutional issue at stake. Also it doesn't prevent a state court from hearing a case about it.

You all realize this bill has not been passed yet right?