Conspiracy Theory you decide

[Fellowship]

I was digging around on the net today and I came across this.

It was very interesting to say the least.

Scroll down and read it start to finish and decide what you believe about what is presented.

Truth or fiction? (http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/Mahfouz.html)

Fellows

[talksense101]

Are you sure you don't want to vote GWB out of power?

[Fellowship]

Senator John Kerry’s BCCI investigatory committee established that BCCI was a conduit for opium money laundering from the Golden Crescent where Afghanistan, Iran and Pakistan come together. The Arab oil sheiks were fronts to create the illusion of “petro dollars” funding the bank. Dubya and Harken Energy’s friends at BCCI were the core of a group of people—supported by the CIA, the Pakistani Inter Service Intelligence Agency and the Saudi royal family—secretly funding the al Qaeda terrorist network and Islamic fundamentalist groups in their successful campaign to destroy the Soviet Union. :wow:

Link (http://www.columbusalive.com/2002/20020829/082902/08290208.html)

Fellows

[segovius]

This is old news (albeit in a slightly different format) and has been covered many times here over the past few years. With the usual ensuing 'tin hat' juvenalia.

Bush made his first millions when he set up a company with Osama's brother Salem (then head of the bin Laden business group - possibly world's largest construction company) and together they formed Bush's oil company Arbusto (ie Bush).

This was all in the seventies before the current climate and the relationship continued until Salem's untimely and possibly questionable death in a flying accident. The relationship with the Bin Laden family continues to this day: witness massive contracts for construction of US bases in ME and the allowing of Bin Ladens to leave the US post-911.

That was just business - but Osama himself was radicalised by just this sort of duplicitous (in his view) money-making activity by his family. I.e - he saw Arab's dying of poverty, being oppressed/suppressed by the west and basically having no chance for furthering themselves while a select small elite (his family) carved up billions with a foreign power (the US). Then (for him) it became political.

When the USSR invaded Afghanistan - and the west sat and watched wholesale slaughter and atrocities that even now we do not hear about and that are far worse than any terrorist outrage you could name - dropping 250,000 toy dolls with explosives inside all over the country so children would pick them up and be blown to bits (the same Russians who have been massacring Chechens for 20 years also and who are now our loyal 'partners' in a 'war' that is in the main a reaction against our own atrocities) - the only people to come to the aid of the Afghans were the Muslims. Not the UN, not the US but ordinary religious people. Everyone else was to scared or too politically hampered by fear of the 'Evil Empire'.

So the Mujahadin became heroes. The west armed them to do the dirty work they were too scared to do or it was politically inexpedient to do (mistake one - they should have gone in themselves). Most likely no-one thought they could win (mistake two) so it was just a token effort. But they did win.

And what did the west do ? Nothing (mistake three - the fatal one). They just forgot about Afghanistan. They could have rebuilt - given people a better life but they just left a vacuum (sound familiar ? It's almost a policy isn't it ?)

The Taleban did some good things though. Heroin production was down - almost eradicated - probably would have been in the coming decade. The 'war on drugs' could never seem to hit the source but the Talebs did.

Still, all they do must be bad. We know that because it has all been undone. Rampant lawlessness on the street, no-one has a home virtually and good old Heroin production is heading for record levels. Billions of dollars of smack heading to a street near you. Good luck to your kids.

Makes you think doesn't it ? Probably not in some cases but they can stop one or two terrorists getting in (or can they ?) but billions of tons of opiates a week by ship/air/boat or catapult when you have a large military presence in the country of origin seems to present a bit of a problem.

Funny old world.

Only some of us aren't laughing anymore.

[segovius]

Btw, here is also an interesting link (http://www.americanfreepress.net/10_07_01/Bush___Bin_Laden_-_George_W__B/bush___bin_laden_-_george_w__b.html) on Bush's shenanigans with the bin Ladens.

[Placebo]

Originally posted by Fellowship
I was digging around on the net today and I came across this.

It was very interesting to say the least.

Scroll down and read it start to finish and decide what you believe about what is presented.

Truth or fiction? (http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/Mahfouz.html)

Fellows
Isn't this just Fahrenheit 9/11, the cliffnotes edition?

[segovius]

You know when Bush called his company 'Arbusto' - do you think he thought it meant 'Bush' ?

As it is Spanish for 'shrub' I think we may have the first historical occurrence of his own unique brand of malapropism.

[Wrong Robot]

Originally posted by Placebo
Isn't this just Fahrenheit 9/11, the cliffnotes edition?

Heh, yea, cause moore's was too fattening

[Placebo]

Originally posted by Wrong Robot
Heh, yea, cause moore's was too fattening
Now that you say it, yeah, I got it reversed.