View Full Version : Belgium's new Sex Ed campaign (NSFW?)
SpcMs
02-13-2005, 12:14 PM
So for the last few years the Belgium government has been launching Sex Ed campagnes to promote communication between partners. The previous campagne had the slogan: First Blablabla, Then Boomboomboom. The new campagne generated even in 'liberal' Belgium quite some controversy because of the full frontal nudity, the big posters and the explicit television ads (one featuring a deaf mute couple with the line "If they can talk about it, why can't you").
So, do you think these kind of campaigns work, should the government be involved in them, is the content acceptable for all audiences and would this be possible where you live?
[No. - groverat]
groverat
02-13-2005, 04:59 PM
Sure, you just can't post pornagraphic pictures.
SpcMs
02-13-2005, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by groverat
Sure, you just can't post pornagraphic pictures.
:wow:
Did you actually read my post? These pictures are in newspapers and on posters everywhere here, and i posted tiny tumbnails just to give an idea and have a discussion about them.
Thanks for sharing your opinion i guess, but i'm not sure if you had to go as far as to censor my post.
Scott
02-13-2005, 05:12 PM
He just wants you to follow the posting guidelines.
Anyway I don't want to have to look at some guys package when I'm waiting for the bus.
groverat
02-13-2005, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by SpcMs
:wow:
Did you actually read my post?
Yes.
These pictures are in newspapers and on posters everywhere here, and i posted tiny tumbnails just to give an idea and have a discussion about them.
The world does not revolve around you, what you're used to and what you want.
There are rules and they are clearly stated in the Posting Guidelines (linked at the very top of every page).
I'll quote the relevant portion for you:
Sexually graphic or otherwise offensive material is strictly forbidden. AppleInsider will strive to maintain a work-friendly and family-friendly environment in regards to pornography and hate-speech. These cases are up to the discretion of the moderators and administrators.
You even acknowledge in the title of the thread that the pictures were possibly not safe for work, yet you pretend to be surprised then they are deleted?
Thanks for sharing your opinion i guess, but i'm not sure if you had to go as far as to censor my post.
If you have a problem with any of my actions as moderator feel free to contact an administrator.
pierr_alex
02-13-2005, 05:17 PM
I think that such communication campaigns work, because this one will talk to a certain category of the population.
That's what's important. The next campaign will be different and will appeal to another (category).
Those campaigns are very important, just like AIDS campaigns. In Paris there have been a lot of ads talking about how to protect yourself from AIDS, each time using a different language. And sometimes using some very explicit words, images or symbols.
tonton
02-13-2005, 09:33 PM
I agree. If you want to make an impact, you have to make an impact. Softly, softly is not going to get the message across. If only the US weren't too prudish to promote something in this way, even without the graphic images...
BRussell
02-13-2005, 09:39 PM
Maybe you could post the link. Or PM me. I'm, uh, interested in this topic. ;)
SpcMs
02-14-2005, 02:43 AM
The official website is http://www.sensoa.be
The campaign can be found at http://www.sensoa.be/3_5_1.php (WARNING: apparently some consider this material to be of pornographic nature. Do not click if you live in the US!!!)
Scott
02-14-2005, 07:18 AM
So I gotta look at that at a bus stop?
e1618978
02-14-2005, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by ShawnJ
No. That's why you live in a sexually repressed country, Scott.
We have stuff like this in Las Vegas, where they hand out pornography on every street corner. That is one of the reasons that I woudn't take my kids there.
Pornography is fine, but I don't want it everywhere - for two reasons:
1) I don't think that kids should be exposed to it - it is part of the adult world that they shoudn't have to worry about at age 5 or 8.
2) It just garrish, I don't want it everywhere for the same reason that I don't want everything painted orange.
We do live in a sexually repressed country, but I don't think that explicit sexual pictures in public is the right way out of that.
groverat
02-14-2005, 09:02 AM
Everyone who doesn't want pornography on street corners is a right-wing Christian fundamentalist prude!
BRussell
02-14-2005, 12:30 PM
Does the average person know what the word "prurient" means?
groverat
02-14-2005, 01:07 PM
The pictures weren't erased because they were pornography, they were erased because they were sexually graphic, which is against the clearly stated rules of the site.
Quote for the second time:
Sexually graphic or otherwise offensive material is strictly forbidden. AppleInsider will strive to maintain a work-friendly and family-friendly environment in regards to pornography and hate-speech. These cases are up to the discretion of the moderators and administrators.
As far as the posters themselves.
I really don't see the value. I see that there might be value, but I don't see it.
Those pictures are basically porn used for educational purposes. Are those realistic representations of everyday people in everyday sexual situations? Hell no; all beautiful and airbrushed in stylish surroundings... what bullshit.
I would be pissed if I saw those in public because they are absolutely moronic. My eyes would roll right out of my head and down the street.
trumptman
02-14-2005, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by ShawnJ
Define pornography.
Let's use the Miller Test (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test). I presume that's as decent a measure as any?
Surely you can't claim it satisfies the last measure, which it *must* in order to be deemed "pornography," at least in this country. Although it's definitely a word people (read: also fascist mods :p ) tend to throw around meaninglessly.
I consider it just fine to apply the last measure. The posters suggest that most people would share every other orifice on their entire person, but not verbally communicate with each other. That to me is not a serious claim. For the small percentage that perhaps do undertake such actions, it is doubtful any poster, even this one, would move them.
Nick
Powerdoc
02-14-2005, 04:05 PM
As Groverat stated the guidelines are clear, no pics will be allowed here.
Now for the content, I don't see what is the interest of this sex ed campaign. I do not speak when I fuck. I do not see me yelling " go on baby, shout !!!" or any comment like that.
The way I fuck is my own busisness, and my wife is the only judge : godamnit :lol:
Powerdoc
02-14-2005, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by trumptman
I consider it just fine to apply the last measure. The posters suggest that most people would share every other orifice on their entire person, but not verbally communicate with each other. That to me is not a serious claim. For the small percentage that perhaps do undertake such actions, it is doubtful any poster, even this one, would move them.
Nick
BTW it's very unpolite to speak while practicing a fellation. I am under shock that they can encourage such practice :devil: :p
groverat
02-14-2005, 04:45 PM
Having sex with powerdoc must be like having sex with a mime.
shetline
02-14-2005, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by groverat
Having sex with powerdoc must be like having sex with a mime.
I understand his wife likes to pretend that there's an invisible wall running down the middle of the bed, then roll over and go to sleep. :D
trumptman
02-14-2005, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by Powerdoc
BTW it's very unpolite to speak while practicing a fellation. I am under shock that they can encourage such practice :devil: :p
You'll have to pardon my lack of experience with performing fellatio and the etiquette involved. I'll defer to you since you obviously have a lot of practice in this matter.:devil: :D
BTW, it's not supposed to be you that is screaming, moaning, etc. it is supposed to be her. However I guess that really depends upon one's personal performance doesn't it?:D :devil:
Nick
trumptman
02-14-2005, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by ShawnJ
Or at your significant other's parents' house. :wow:
Dude, you spooged on her teddy bear? That is just sick.
Nick
Splinemodel
02-14-2005, 11:29 PM
To grove's credit, there are guidelines. But he is a little control freak, and I'm sure it made his day to yank that out of your post. He could have changed the image to a link instead of reverting to an authoritative grunt.
So, now that you can stop masturbating each other, I will say that I seriously wonder if casual sex will go out of style next generation. With the way sex and loving relations have been trivialized, it makes one wonder if the whole post modern ethos towards sex and "partners" is getting passe. To rephrase that, when the time comes that sex is the central part of an advertising campaign, presumably founded by the national government upon some person's whim that intercourse should be preceeded by intercourse, it puts it in the same realm as so many other bland initiatives.
Contraceptives and high taxes already made negative Europe's rate of natural increase. . . Now ad campaigns will finally knock out the population all together. ;)
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