I'm not paying for your erection

[BRussell]

A bill was introduced in the Senate "to provide that no Federal funds may be expended for the payment or reimbursement of a drug that is prescribed for the treatment of sexual or erectile dysfunction."

Is this not a legitimate medical condition? Didn't Bob Dole go on TV to advertise for these drugs? Are they really such a bad thing that they shouldn't be funded by gov't programs that fund other kinds of treatments? We're talking medicare, medicaid, the military, the VA, and other programs. What if a vet is injured in Iraq and wants to have children when he gets home? What if sex is painful for a woman and she wants it treated? What's wrong with reimbursing for those treatments like other treatments?

It seems to me to be pretty representative of the kind of anti-sex attitudes that these kinds of folks who sponsored the bill (e.g. Santorum) have.

You can find the full text of the bill as "S. 1113" in Thomas (http://thomas.loc.gov/).

(Story via dailykos (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/5/31/155121/007).)

[tonton]

Sex is bad, remember?

[pfflam]

Originally posted by tonton
Sex is bad, remember? Yeah . . . and makes you blind too

[Aquatic]

They just aren't getting any.

[Aurora]

Another example of some freaking old fart Senators passing laws that are Pure PORK. Congress Sucks and they seem to be getting worse everyday with all their lies,pork and spin.
Medicare shouldnt be paying for old fart boners.:smokey:

[Zarathustra]

Hmmm.. Is this law a response to the recent story that some convicted rapists and paedophiles were getting tax funded Viagra...or was that story placed because this was already in the pipeline?



Washington Post story (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/22/AR2005052200965.html)

[Protostar]

I don't see what the problem is. Although I think Medicare,Medicaid should be abolished (along with many other federal agencies and programs) if it has to stay it should only be used to provide for the essentials. Having a hard on is not essential for life. Sex is a pleasure not a necessity for life.

[tonton]

Originally posted by Protostar
Sex is a pleasure not a necessity for life.

Dude, you need to get laid.

[rok]

if you can't get federal money to cover birth-control pills, you shouldn't get it for birth-inducing boners. fair's fair.

[Powerdoc]

I don't think that medicare or medicaid should pay for such medications, but I am amazed that a congress voted such a law.

In France these medications are not taken into account by assurances for money reasons*, but no one is fool enough to suggest making such a law.

BTW there may be some exceptions like paraplegic people, but I am not sure.

[Protostar]

BTW there may be some exceptions like paraplegic people

I don't wish to sound rash or mean, but what the hell what a paraplegic person need a hard on for? What's he gonna do: look at it?

[Powerdoc]

Originally posted by Protostar
I don't wish to sound rash or mean, but what the hell what a paraplegic person need a hard on for? What's he gonna do: look at it?

Ask them.

[BRussell]

Originally posted by Powerdoc
I don't think that medicare or medicaid should pay for such medications... Why not? Isn't an erectile disorder a genuine disorder like any other? It isn't life threatening, but many health issues aren't life threatening, and are really just about experiencing life more fully. Does anyone really need to walk? Or have vision? Or be free of pain?

[johnq]

Originally posted by Protostar
I don't wish to sound rash or mean, but what the hell what a paraplegic person need a hard on for? What's he gonna do: look at it?

Hm..."prick", "dick", "cock" or "tool". Which to say...which to say...

[MarcUK]

Originally posted by johnq
Hm..."prick", "dick", "cock" or "tool". Which to say...which to say...

I feel in todays environment, using the words penis and vagina, actually invoke a bigger reaction.

[tonton]

Originally posted by Protostar
I don't wish to sound rash or mean, but what the hell what a paraplegic person need a hard on for? What's he gonna do: look at it?

You see, there's this thing called "sex" which can lead to a sense of well-being and satisfaction, and a physical sharing of the love between two people. It can also lead to procreation. That's how babies are made. The penis is not just a companion for your hand.

That must have been the dumbest question I've ever seen on Apple Insider. The only thing I can imagine is that you have an ignorant and bigoted point of view that only non-handicapped people want or need to have sex.

[johnq]

Hard to believe Protostar has made it to 100+ posts with that attitude.

Too much Howard Stern mentality.

Try saying that in a bar sometime. Maybe someone's brother or son is back from Iraq/Afghanistan, minus his limbs.

Really. Do it.

[Powerdoc]

Originally posted by BRussell
Why not? Isn't an erectile disorder a genuine disorder like any other? It isn't life threatening, but many health issues aren't life threatening, and are really just about experiencing life more fully. Does anyone really need to walk? Or have vision? Or be free of pain?

I don't say it's necessary, I say that I don't think that it's the goal of an public assurance to pay for this, nor it is to pay for esthetic surgery. Even if it's expansive people can afford this medication, but canno't afford the cost of a cancer cure.
As a plastic surgeon I am convinced that with a good practice and a good indication esthetic surgery is good for people. You can't imagine how happy where some of the women I practiced breast augmentation surgery. But that does not mean that assurance should pay for it. The cost of the medical assurance all around the world is increasing day after day, and choices must be made.

[Protostar]

Ask them.

You see, there's this thing called "sex" which can lead to a sense of well-being and satisfaction, and a physical sharing of the love between two people. It can also lead to procreation. That's how babies are made. The penis is not just a companion for your hand.

That must have been the dumbest question I've ever seen on Apple Insider. The only thing I can imagine is that you have an ignorant and bigoted point of view that only non-handicapped people want or need to have sex.


SORRY! Misunderstanding. I was confusing a paraplegic with a quadraplegic. Nothing to see here, carry on.