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Stroszek
01-10-2002, 06:05 PM
Does anyone know if the Photoshop that is about to be released for X will run on OS9 as well? If not, then I am going to go ahead and buy the photoshop6 upgrade, if it does, i'll hold off for a while...

applenut
01-10-2002, 06:40 PM
OS 9 too

Stroszek
01-10-2002, 07:08 PM
thanks for the info.

Leonis
01-10-2002, 07:57 PM
Why run Phtoshop under 9?

I am using Phtoshop 7 beta under X and it truly rock! :) Waayy better than running under 9

Stroszek
01-10-2002, 09:22 PM
because i'm poor, and i can't afford to buy OSX and photoshop, so i have to choose.

(unless someone wants to buy stuff for me... ;) )

Moogs
01-14-2002, 03:14 PM
Leonis, are you using that leaked beta, or perhaps a newer build that you'd like to share details about? April can't get here soon enough...but then again wishing your life to speed up to get new software is kind of stupid given none of us knows how long we have.
:)

suckfuldotcom
01-14-2002, 03:35 PM
stroszek: buy OSX, steal PShop 7.

SdC

Stroszek
01-14-2002, 04:15 PM
[quote]Originally posted by suckfuldotcom:
<strong>stroszek: buy OSX, steal PShop 7.

SdC</strong><hr></blockquote>

lol.

i'm going to be getting a new comp by years end most likely anyway, so i can wait at least that long. so maybe i can buy them both. adobe isn't my favorite company, but i may as well support them. after all, i can't imagine life without photoshop and illustrator. :)

[ 01-14-2002: Message edited by: Stroszek ]</p>

Leonis
01-14-2002, 07:14 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Moogs ™:
<strong>Leonis, are you using that leaked beta, or perhaps a newer build that you'd like to share details about? April can't get here soon enough...but then again wishing your life to speed up to get new software is kind of stupid given none of us knows how long we have.
:) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Now I am using Beta 51 vs 43 I used a few weeks ago. I believe the latest beta is higher than 51 (but don't really know what number)

There was some erratic bug with stylus support under b43. But on beta 51 many of them are gone :)

Very stable. Has never crashed on me :)

Opening file is fast, fast, fast

MP support to me is much better than older version (I think it's mostly due to X's better MP support)

Some filters (like guassian blus, radial blur) are pretty zappy for beta filters.

Overall. I think it's VERY close to GM :)

Hope we will hear some announcement by the end of the month from Adobe.

My cash is already sitting here and wait for the upgrade.

Moogs
01-17-2002, 12:31 AM
Cool! Thanks for the update Leonis. This stuff, in comparison to all the G5 speculation we've been dragging ourselves through (smells like manure to me...) is a refreshing change of pace. Screen shots perhaps? Available on Carracho?

TJM
01-18-2002, 04:23 PM
FWIW, at Amazon.com, there are already 4 books in the works for PS X. Two are due to be published in April, the other two in May.

1. Photoshop X at Your Fingertips: Get in, Get out, Get Exactly What You Need
by David D. Busch (Paperback)
Not yet published
List Price: $40.00
Our Price: $28.00
You Save: $12.00 (30%)

2. Photoshop X Savvy
by Stephen Romaniello (Paperback)
Not yet published
List Price: $50.00
Our Price: $50.00

3. Photoshop X : The Complete Reference (The Complete Reference)
by Laurie Ann Ulrich (Paperback - April 2002)
Not yet published
List Price: $49.99
Our Price: $34.99
You Save: $15.00 (30%)


4. Photoshop X Book
by Stephen Romaniello (Paperback - April 2002)
Not yet published
List Price: $50.00
Our Price: $35.00
You Save: $15.00 (30%)

Sorry if this is old news...

JLL
01-18-2002, 06:15 PM
[quote]Originally posted by TJM:
<strong>FWIW, at Amazon.com, there are already 4 books in the works for PS X. Two are due to be published in April, the other two in May.</strong><hr></blockquote>

No there's not (in the way you think).

Books about Photoshop X, Illustrator X and so on have existed for years. The X is a place filler until Adobe announce the version number officially.

Photoshop won't be called Photoshop X and the books should cover the next Photoshop on all three platforms.

[ 01-18-2002: Message edited by: JLL ]</p>

TJM
01-18-2002, 06:39 PM
[quote]Originally posted by JLL:
<strong>

No there's not (in the way you think).

Books about Photoshop X, Illustrator X and so on have existed for years. The X is a place filler until Adobe announce the version number officially.

Photoshop won't be called Photoshop X and the books should cover the next Photoshop on all three platforms.

[ 01-18-2002: Message edited by: JLL ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Sorry. My bad. My ignorance is showing again. :o

It was uplifting to me, anyway, that the publishers seem to be expecting the new version by April. It seemed to be one of those applications that was forever "just about" to be released, and others were moaning and wailing that Adobe may never release it.

Ah, well.

Nebagakid
01-18-2002, 11:44 PM
what will happen when photoshop 27 comes out? Will they just start using years?

JLL
01-19-2002, 10:27 AM
[quote]Originally posted by TJM:
<strong>It was uplifting to me, anyway, that the publishers seem to be expecting the new version by April.</strong><hr></blockquote>

That's not surprising since Adobe said that PS will be released in the March-April-May quarter.

Moogs
01-24-2002, 03:58 PM
They were at beta 43 around mid-December. They're now at beta 85 according to Railhead Design and the app was rock-solid even at beta 51 (which you can grab on Carracho). I couldn't find beta 55 or 85 on said piracy-mart.

Based on what Leonis and others are saying though, I'm now guessing an announcement will be made in Feb and the release perhaps in early March. Keep your fingers crossed....

<img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" />

[ 01-24-2002: Message edited by: Moogs ™ ]</p>

Belle
01-24-2002, 06:01 PM
[quote]Originally posted by JLL:
<strong>That's not surprising since Adobe said that PS will be released in the March-April-May quarter.</strong><hr></blockquote>
According to <a href="http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/top_news_item.cfm?NewsID=4137" target="_blank">Macworld UK</a> -

[quote][Adobe vice president] Lamkin revealed: "We are working on a new version of Photoshop, with support for OS 9 and OS X, which will be available in the first half of this year."

His comments confirm recent statements by Adobe CEO Bruce Chizen, who told Cnet that Photoshop would be released in the second quarter 2002.<hr></blockquote>

Let's hope they're being pessimistic.

jra55
01-24-2002, 10:35 PM
Leonis...have you "heard" about Photoshop X's performance on an iBook? Just curious...Illustrator on my Pismo is preety good, but then I have 512 megs, which makes all X apps pretty tolerable. Thanks
-Jennings

Leonis
01-25-2002, 02:20 AM
You asked the right person :D

I have an iBook too :) 600 DVD with 384MB RAM

Photoshop 7 on iBook is VERY SLOW. I guess it's due to the HD speed.

I remember back to my Pismo day Photoshop 6 was very slow even under OS 9 because of the HD.


BTW. I lost beta 51 due to the hard drive failure in my G4 :( (damn IBM, this is the forth time in six month :mad: ) And now back to b43 :(

[ 01-25-2002: Message edited by: Leonis ]</p>

JLL
01-26-2002, 06:35 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Belle:
<strong>
According to Macworld UK -

quote:

[Adobe vice president] Lamkin revealed: "We are working on a new version of Photoshop, with support for OS 9 and OS X, which will be available in the first half of this year."

His comments confirm recent statements by Adobe CEO Bruce Chizen, who told Cnet that Photoshop would be released in the second quarter 2002.


Let's hope they're being pessimistic.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

And Q2 according to Adobe is Mar-Apr-May.

Being pessimistic? Well, Illustrator was released earlier than they originally said :D

Moogs
01-26-2002, 11:19 AM
Guys, we're *in* the first half of this year. I think ole Bruce is just playing things close to his chest because that's what these guys do. If the guy at Railhead (very reliable in my mind) and elsewhere are correct about the recent builds' stability and performance, I doubt we're more than a few weeks from GM...I think availability in March is a good bet, unless they're going to wait for some trade show or some other event later on?

Leonis
01-26-2002, 12:41 PM
Adobe's first quarter starts at end of Nov / start of Dec

So late Feb or early March is a good bet

New
01-26-2002, 01:03 PM
photoshop 7 (b43) on a ibook 500 is exactly as fast as photoshop 6 on a Pismo 500...

two years later, 1/3 of the price and still at beta... I think that is quite good actually...

Cosmo
01-26-2002, 10:10 PM
PS 7b43 is no slower in X than PS 6 is in 9 on my 333 imac (384megs)

It is also very solid for a beta.

JLL
01-27-2002, 08:11 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Cosmo:
<strong>PS 7b43 is no slower in X than PS 6 is in 9 on my 333 imac (384megs)

It is also very solid for a beta.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Please remember that build 43 is a very old build.