BNP and Fundie alliance cracks....

[segovius]

In the UK an alliance between the far-right racist British National Party (BNP) and Evangelical Christians has finally - thank God - come to grief.

The alliance was born out of shared concerns - the 'Islamification' of Britain and Political Correctness (ie possible true Christian ideals) in the Church of England.

"The BNP were approached by a group of disaffected ladies and gentlemen who felt their traditional Christian views were not being represented by the liberal-left spokesmen in the Anglican church," they explained. Following this conversion experience, the BNP even found someone with reverend before his name to theologise party policy. "The mixing of races challenges the glory of God," said the Rev Bob West.

But it was not any un-Christian activity that caused the rift and certainly not extreme racism (that's ok and most likely what attracted the fundies in the first place) that caused the split - it was this last bit of (bad) theology which proved the rift within the lute: it seems that in accordance with their view of the Bible's literal nature, the fundies held to a strong belief in Genesis and that that all human beings are descended from Adam and Eve. Ie, that the human race is of "one blood" (Acts 17: 26).

This was a bit too much for our racist chums in the BNP and strife ensued. "If you don't believe in Darwinian evolution then you are even dafter than you appear," the BNP told the national director of Christian Voice, Stephen Green. The love affair was over.

And before anyone says it - yes, I am bashing Nazi racists and yes, I am bashing fundies because they both deserve it.

Fortunately I also get to voice support too - to a real Christian, the priest who wrote the Guardian Article (http://politics.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1766152,00.html) from which this rant is derived. Top man. Let's give him the last word:

"In Christ there is neither Jew nor Greek, for you are all one in Christ Jesus," says St Paul. Racial categories and nationality are deemed of no importance for those whose identity is primarily found in Christ. It's an expression of a basic truth of monotheism: God is the God of all. In church, we are all brothers and sisters.

In recent weeks the Methodist church has set up a useful website called Countering Political Extremism in which the views of the major churches have been compiled. It's one of the few theological points upon which all churches agree: you cannot be a Christian and a racist. The United Reform church is the most specific: "Any form of support for organisations such as the BNP is incompatible with Christian discipleship."

[occam whisker]

Originally posted by segovius
In the UK an alliance between the far-right racist British National Party (BNP) and Evangelical Christians has finally - thank God - come to grief.

The alliance was born out of shared concerns - the \'Islamification\' of Britain and Political Correctness (ie possible true Christian ideals) in the Church of England.



But it was not any un-Christian activity that caused the rift and certainly not extreme racism (that\'s ok and most likely what attracted the fundies in the first place) that caused the split - it was this last bit of (bad) theology which proved the rift within the lute: it seems that in accordance with their view of the Bible\'s literal nature, the fundies held to a strong belief in Genesis and that that all human beings are descended from Adam and Eve. Ie, that the human race is of \"one blood\" (Acts 17: 26).

This was a bit too much for our racist chums in the BNP and strife ensued. \"If you don\'t believe in Darwinian evolution then you are even dafter than you appear,\" the BNP told the national director of Christian Voice, Stephen Green. The love affair was over.

And before anyone says it - yes, I am bashing Nazi racists and yes, I am bashing fundies because they both deserve it.

Fortunately I also get to voice support too - to a real Christian, the priest who wrote the Guardian Article (http://politics.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1766152,00.html) from which this rant is derived. Top man. Let\'s give him the last word:


It seems that anything and everything that will advantage jihadi supremacists is good news to you.

[New]

Originally posted by occam whisker
It seems that anything and everything that will advantage jihadi supremacists is good news to you.

It seems that anything and everything that will "advantage jihadi supremacists" is bad news to you? Even this? Or do you support the BNP?

[occam whisker]

Originally posted by New
It seems that anything and everything that will \"advantage jihadi supremacists\" is bad news to you? Even this? Or do you support the BNP?


BNP? Who are they?

[New]

Originally posted by occam whisker
BNP? Who are they?

ohh, you didn't even read the post?

[Aquatic]

What kind of moron posts when they don't know what the thread is about? And, I may add, is too lazy to spend 10 seconds on www.google.com.

[occam whisker]

Originally posted by New
ohh, you didn\'t even read the post?


Seems you\'re deliberately misunderstanding what I\'m try to get across. What I\'m trying to say is that they are inconsequential. Kinda like comparing a bumblebee to a pack of wild dogs. In term of personal safety, I\'ll take the bumblebee.

[occam whisker]

Originally posted by Aquatic
What kind of moron posts when they don\'t know what the thread is about? And, I may add, is too lazy to spend 10 seconds on www.google.com.

[New]

Originally posted by occam whisker
Seems you\'re deliberately misunderstanding what I\'m try to get across. What I\'m trying to say is that they are inconsequential. Kinda like comparing a bumblebee to a pack of wild dogs. In term of personal safety, I\'ll take the bumblebee.

Yeah I know thinking two thoughts at the same time can be stressful.
Care to try to answer anyway?

[trailmaster308]

Originally posted by occam whisker
Seems you\'re deliberately misunderstanding what I\'m try to get across. What I\'m trying to say is that they are inconsequential. Kinda like comparing a bumblebee to a pack of wild dogs. In term of personal safety, I\'ll take the bumblebee.

How old are you? Just curious.

[occam whisker]

Originally posted by trailmaster308
How old are you? Just curious.

Why is that any of your concern?

[trailmaster308]

Originally posted by occam whisker
Why is that any of your concern?

Just curious...I am allowed to ask and you are allowed to not answer if you like.

Its not meant as an insult. Its just that age tends to play into peoples view on the world. I know I have different views of the world than someone that grew up during the depression. Just curious is all.

[occam whisker]

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[occam whisker]

Originally posted by trailmaster308
Just curious...I am allowed to ask and you are allowed to not answer if you like.

Its not meant as an insult. Its just that age tends to play into peoples view on the world. I know I have different views of the world than someone that grew up during the depression. Just curious is all.


And there\'s a 50% chance that you would have a similar view of the world as someone born at same time as you, and 50% not. So what does that have to do with anything?

[thuh Freak]

Originally posted by occam whisker
And there\'s a 50% chance that you would have a similar view of the world as someone born at same time as you, and 50% not. So what does that have to do with anything?
i am also curious about your age. because you come off like a child in several posts, and if you confirm that you are, its that much easier to dismiss everything you say outright. ;)

[occam whisker]

Originally posted by thuh Freak
i am also curious about your age. because you come off like a child in several posts, and if you confirm that you are, its that much easier to dismiss everything you say outright. ;)

LOL. How long have you been reading this forum? If child like behavior was really an issue for you, you would have been out of here long ago.

[Northgate]

I have this personal thoery that Occam is taking a college course in creative arguing and this forum is his personal petrie dish. You know, just posting random crap to see what hornets nest he can stir up and then giggling childishly at the mayhem.

It's obvious he's making most of this shit up. No one could possibly believe half the stupid rhetoric he spews forth.

It's all designed to be intentionally confrontational.

It would be like me going to a forum that skews right and using a lot Nazi, Third Reich, Hitler remarks and giggling at the shit storm they create.

[addabox]

Originally posted by Northgate
I have this personal thoery that Occam is taking a college course in creative arguing and this forum is his personal petrie dish. You know, just posting random crap to see what hornets nest he can stir up and then giggling childishly at the mayhem.

It's obvious he's making most of this shit up. No one could possibly believe half the stupid rhetoric he spews forth.

It's all designed to be intentionally confrontational.

It would be like me going to a forum that skews right and using a lot Nazi, Third Reich, Hitler remarks and giggling at the shirt storm they create.

I get that feeling as well, but then I've thought that about a couple of right wing posters. Honestly, not because I dismiss "conservatism" out of hand, but because the posters in question seemed genuinely intent on crafting a parody of "right wing" rhetoric.

For instance, I disagree strongly with pretty much everything NIck or SDW have to say, but I would never mock them for being a parody-- they clearly are arguing their case to the best of their limited abilities. :)

In Mr. Whiskers case:

It seems that anything and everything that will advantage jihadi supremacists is good news to you.

Given the post that this is a response to, I don't see how anyone can take him seriously, if anyone still did.

[audiopollution]

I'm only keeping him around for the spectacle.

;)

[addabox]

Originally posted by audiopollution
I'm only keeping him around for the spectacle.

;)

Do the mods have a secret stash of colorful wingnuts that they deploy strategically to keep things interesting?

Cause it seems like every time one wanders off another immediately shows up to take up the slack.

[audiopollution]

Originally posted by addabox
Do the mods have a secret stash of colorful wingnuts that they deploy strategically to keep things interesting?

Cause it seems like every time one wanders off another immediately shows up to take up the slack.

There's a queue. We only allow one in at a time.

[addabox]

Originally posted by audiopollution
There's a queue. We only allow one in at a time.

Sound policy.

[shetline]

Originally posted by segovius
In the UK an alliance between the far-right racist British National Party (BNP) and Evangelical Christians has finally - thank God - come to grief.
Why do you hate the United Kingdom? :D

[segovius]

:devil:

[Fellowship]

Several points that I would toss in the mix here are as follows:


I agree that in Christ we are all one body and can not be racist (if we are in Christ) as "being racist" goes against the very logic of one "body".

I believe politics and religious views should be two different realms.

I think one of the greatest problems in the world today and throughout history is the notion of "we are right and they are wrong / backwards" which causes fear, lack of understanding, mistrust, hate, fighting, terrorism and even killing.

In this thread for example if a poster has a certain view his age is asked for. This is a subtle way of condescention I would argue. I would propose that if you disagree with what given poster posted then argue against the given point or statement at hand. Ideas and discussion are greater tools than "putting someone in "their place" just because they may not be in "your place".

You know Jesus mentioned that "in all we do we should seek understanding" and I could not agree more. It seems that be it global politics, wars or even discussion within a forum individuals, nations or other groups have a shortcoming and a tendency to do anything BUT seek to understand their brothers and sisters which are in a "different place" than themselves.

If we could manage to realize that we have much to accomplish together as one body which functions properly as opposed to a fragmented body with cuts and amputations we could live in a reality of peace, joy and meaning in far greater measure than if we continue to fail to act to ensure said ideals.

I would also suggest on this issue of racism etc. that what we see in the world at times (be it on a global scale or within a community) is an issue of "culture" where we fail to share the same values, interests and preferences as another person / group. My point being simply that it is not always "race" but indeed "culture" where individuals / groups disagree. This is problematic as the potential for fear, lack of understanding, mistrust, hate, fighting, terrorism and even killing is just as real.

The question is,,, How can we learn to live together with our differences as one in peace?

My stab at trying to answer that is to suggest that each of us make an effort to seek understanding in all we do and to be a peacemaker.

In my view anything less is less.

Fellowship

[occam whisker]

Originally posted by Fellowship
Several points that I would toss in the mix here are as follows:


I agree that in Christ we are all one body and can not be racist (if we are in Christ) as \"being racist\" goes against the very logic of one \"body\".

I believe politics and religious views should be two different realms.

I think one of the greatest problems in the world today and throughout history is the notion of \"we are right and they are wrong / backwards\" which causes fear, lack of understanding, mistrust, hate, fighting, terrorism and even killing.

In this thread for example if a poster has a certain view his age is asked for. This is a subtle way of condescention I would argue. I would propose that if you disagree with what given poster posted then argue against the given point or statement at hand. Ideas and discussion are greater tools than \"putting someone in \"their place\" just because they may not be in \"your place\".

You know Jesus mentioned that \"in all we do we should seek understanding\" and I could not agree more. It seems that be it global politics, wars or even discussion within a forum individuals, nations or other groups have a shortcoming and a tendancy to do anything BUT seek to understand their brothers and sisters which are in a \"different place\" than themselves.

If we could manage to realize that we have much to accomplish together as one body which functions properly as opposed to a fragmented body with cuts and amputations we could live in a reality of peace, joy and meaning in far greater measure than if we continue to fail to act to ensure said ideals.

I would also suggest on this issue of racism etc. that what we see in the world at times (be it on a global scale or within a community) is an issue of \"culture\" where we fail to share the same values, interests and preferences as another person / group. My point being simply that it is not always \"race\" but indeed \"culture\" where individuals / groups disagree. This is problematic as the potential for fear, lack of understanding, mistrust, hate, fighting, terrorism and even killing is just as real.

The question is,,, How can we learn to live together with our differences as one in peace?

My stab at trying to answer that is to suggest that each of us make an effort to seek understanding in all we do and to be a peacemaker.

In my view anything less is less.

Fellowship


Warning: You may need to read that last post several times to really appreciate its stunning illogic and open malevolence. :)

[Fellowship]

Originally posted by occam whisker
Warning: You may need to read that last post several times to really appreciate its stunning illogic and open malevolence. :)

:lol: ;)

Fellows

[segovius]

Originally posted by Fellowship
Several points that I would toss in the mix here are as follows:

I agree that in Christ we are all one body and can not be racist (if we are in Christ) as "being racist" goes against the very logic of one "body".

This is not the reason imo. If one were 'in Christ' in the sense that one becomes a 'new man' or partakes of the Christ nature then one would not hate. There may or may not be such a thing as a legitimate Church or 'one body' but the thing surely is that hate is impossible side by side with the Christ nature.

Racism of the kind I have in mind is always based on hate. Sure, there are other 'milder' types based on fear, culture and mis-education and we all partake of these to some degree. I am not talking about those - I am talking about hate.

I believe politics and religious views should be two different realms.

Life is life. You cannot compartmentalize it. You are in the world and the best you can do is not be of the world.

You can try to 'render unto Caesar' but what is Caesar's really if you think about it? Nothing.

There are many times when ones spirituality will drive you smack-bang into the political - it depends on the politics of the day and one's religions/beliefs, but it happens all the time.

I think one of the greatest problems in the world today and throughout history is the notion of "we are right and they are wrong / backwards" which causes fear, lack of understanding, mistrust, hate, fighting, terrorism and even killing.

Agree. This is what fundamentalism is.

If we only look at fundamentalism with a certain prefix - whether it be 'Islamic' or 'Christian' then we are not really opposing fundamentalism at all but rather the prefix. When this happens we have no chance of eradicating the disease.

In this thread for example if a poster has a certain view his age is asked for. This is a subtle way of condescention I would argue. I would propose that if you disagree with what given poster posted then argue against the given point or statement at hand.

The poster in question is a troll. Many people have given him the benefit of the doubt for the majority of his posting history. I guess they wised up.

Personally I would not accord the same respect to a troll as to a serious poster or a kid or an uneducated poster.

You know Jesus mentioned that "in all we do we should seek understanding" and I could not agree more. It seems that be it global politics, wars or even discussion within a forum individuals, nations or other groups have a shortcoming and a tendency to do anything BUT seek to understand their brothers and sisters which are in a "different place" than themselves.

People think they DO understand. the problem starts at a stage before. Again we are back to fundamentalism. A Talebani is SURE they understand better than anyone.

If we could manage to realize that we have much to accomplish together as one body which functions properly as opposed to a fragmented body with cuts and amputations we could live in a reality of peace, joy and meaning in far greater measure than if we continue to fail to act to ensure said ideals.

I agree. Part of that though is to lay the foundations. And part of that is to clear the underbrush and trash littering the building site.

The fact is that certain entities have specific agendas which would require that this does not happen. There are many such entities.

Take the BNP for example as they are the subject of this thread. They are in no way interested in this aim and in fact have a vested interest in opposing anyone who works for it - you and me say - by all means possible.

I would also suggest on this issue of racism etc. that what we see in the world at times (be it on a global scale or within a community) is an issue of "culture" where we fail to share the same values, interests and preferences as another person / group. My point being simply that it is not always "race" but indeed "culture" where individuals / groups disagree. This is problematic as the potential for fear, lack of understanding, mistrust, hate, fighting, terrorism and even killing is just as real.

Agree. But again - what about the entities that have a vested interest in lying in order to promote disharmony and hate?

Another example: in Islam it is well known that the Jews, Christians and Muslims lived in harmony for over 800 years. This is a known fact backed up by academic research and documents. Yet still people with an agenda spread lies about this and do all they can to deny it.

You can't just sit back in some hippy love-in vibe and hope that the haters will tune-in. they will kill you. Metaphorically at first and later possibly literally.

Now you can argue that one should not oppose them and I would agree. This to me is the Christ nature. But realize what stand you are making and what the end might be. Christ himself showed what happens when one takes such a stand. You get killed and persecuted.

Who can pick up the tab for that kind of action. not me. Not yet.

The question is,,, How can we learn to live together with our differences as one in peace?

Education.

My stab at trying to answer that is to suggest that each of us make an effort to seek understanding in all we do and to be a peacemaker.

I agree. But we need information and 'leaders' also. Inspirational ones.

[occam whisker]

Originally posted by segovius
In the UK an alliance between the far-right racist British National Party (BNP) and Evangelical Christians has finally - thank God - come to grief.


Why do you consider the BNP a racist political entity?

[segovius]

Originally posted by occam whisker
Why do you consider the BNP a racist political entity?

Because they support the idea that Whites are a superior race, they believe that multi-ethnic societies are corruptions on the basis that it waters down to white race and because it arose out of the National Front which was the leading organization of Nazi sympathizers in Britain during th 1970s.

Do you think they aren't?

Here are some quotes:

Perhaps one day... by being more subtle ... [and] if we tell 'em really what multiculturalism has meant and means for the future, then perhaps one day the British people might change their mind and say that every last one [non-whites] must go."

Nick Griffin, Chairman of the BNP, addressing a meeting of the far-right in America including members of the Ku Klux Klan.

"I would like to see at the end of the day that there are none here at all."

Nick Griffin, in a BBC Panorama interview.

"Britain does not have the tradition of intellectual fascism which is such a factor in other countries. While I do have a number of proposals to rectify this deficiency, the truth is that this is a handicap which we can never overcome completely."

Nick Griffin, at a meeting where he thought he was speaking to the French National Front.

[The BNP needs to be seen as] "a strong, disciplined organisation with the ability to back-up its slogan 'Rights for Whites' with well directed boots and fists."

Nick Griffin

"Blacks, drug users and gays get Aids - so really, I've got no problem with it. I would call it a friendly disease."

Mark Collett, the then leader of the Young BNP.

"A proud white supremacist who will do anything to see this great country do anything to get rid of all ethnic minorities."

Mark Collett's "Friends Reunited" entry.

"Mark's one of the best."

Nick Griffin.

Link (http://www.usdaw.org.uk/equality/race_relations/1057257482_24277.html)

[occam whisker]

I don\'t know how accurate those quotes are, but that site seems as nothing more than a hack job to me, similar to the jihadistani advocacy sites with their plethora of fake Ariel Sharon quotes or other Israeli celebrity of the day. Anyhow, these quotes are attributed an individual and not the BNP. Show me something that can be attributed directly to BNP policy.

[midwinter]

Originally posted by occam whisker
Why do you consider the BNP a racist political entity?

Here we go!

[thuh Freak]

Originally posted by occam whisker
I don\'t know how accurate those quotes are, but that site seems as nothing more than a hack job to me, similar to the jihadistani advocacy sites with their plethora of fake Ariel Sharon quotes or other Israeli celebrity of the day. Anyhow, these quotes are attributed an individual and not the BNP. Show me something that can be attributed directly to BNP policy.
verbatim quotes on the bnp website itself are relatively mild to some of the racists mumbling i've heard before, but i think the undertone is clear.

"We do not accept the absurd superstition ... of human equality."
"...[We] believe that the myth that “we are all the same under the skin” will soon be as discredited..."
Under their proposals, we have (among others):
"1. We would repeal the Race Relations Acts and all other restrictions on free speech in Britain"
The RRAs forbid discriminating against a person based on race.
"8. A Clause 28-style proscription against the promotion of racial integration in schools and the media would be introduced."
Clause 28 (or Section 28) refers to an explicit ban on "promoting" homosexuality that was passed in 1988 and repealed in 2003.
link (http://www.bnp.org.uk/candidates2005/manifesto/manf4.htm)

i saw a tv documentary on white power music in europe on discovery. the bnp was a big supporter of whatever bands/labels they were showing. thats why i think they are racists.

[segovius]

Originally posted by occam whisker
I don\'t know how accurate those quotes are, but that site seems as nothing more than a hack job to me, similar to the jihadistani advocacy sites with their plethora of fake Ariel Sharon quotes or other Israeli celebrity of the day. Anyhow, these quotes are attributed an individual and not the BNP. Show me something that can be attributed directly to BNP policy.

Yes, - I'm sure it seems like a hack job - to you. What I find more interesting is that your efforts to defend extreme racists that are reviled throughout the UK by those on both the left and right of the political spectrum. Really you are telling us more about yourself and your opinions than any objective fact. but then you always do.

But for those who are in doubt and don't support this kind of sickness: the individual is the leader of the BNP speaking mostly in that capacity.

The website is that of one of the foremost Trade Unions in the UK. If the quotes were false they would not have been approved by their lawyers and they would have been sued.

[occam whisker]

Originally posted by segovius
Yes, - I\'m sure it seems like a hack job - to you. What I find more interesting is that your efforts to defend extreme racists that are reviled throughout the UK by those on both the left and right of the political spectrum. Really you are telling us more about yourself and your opinions than any objective fact. but then you always do.

But for those who are in doubt and don\'t support this kind of sickness: the individual is the leader of the BNP speaking mostly in that capacity.

The website is that of one of the foremost Trade Unions in the UK. If the quotes were false they would not have been approved by their lawyers and they would have been sued.


I\'m not defending anyone. I know practically nothing of BNP. It just seems a little strange to me that their platform has not been outlawed as Racist in the British Commons if indeed it is as you say it is. So again let me ask you, what is it about BNP policy specifically that you find Racist?

[segovius]

Originally posted by occam whisker
I\'m defending anyone. I know practically nothing of BNP. It just seems a little strange to me that their platform has not been outlawed as Racist in the British Commons if indeed it is as you say it is. So again let me ask you, what is it about BNP policy specifically, that you find Racist?

What is it about what you have read so far you do not find racist?

[occam whisker]

Originally posted by segovius
What is it about what you have read so far you do not find racist?

It has nothing to do with BNP policy.

[segovius]

Originally posted by occam whisker
It has nothing to do with BNP policy.

You're not making sense.

[occam whisker]

Originally posted by segovius
You\'re not making sense.

There are leading members of the US Democratic Party that one might consider to be Racist. (e.g. Robert Byrd). Does that make the Democratic Party a Racist Party. No it doesn\'t. So again, what is it about BNP policy that you find Racist.

[segovius]

Originally posted by occam whisker
There are leading members of the US Democratic Party that one might consider to be Racist. (e.g. Robert Byrd). Does that make the Democratic Party a Racist Party. No it doesn\'t. So again, what is it about BNP policy that you find Racist.

Tell me how you personally define racism and I will tell you whether I can answer the question and whether or not they are racist according to your own opinion.

[occam whisker]

Originally posted by segovius
Tell me how you personally define racism and I will tell you whether I can answer the question and whether or not they are racist according to your own opinion.


It wasn\'t me that started a thread ranting about the \"far-right racist British National Party (BNP)\". It was you. I\'m simply asking what is it about the political platform of the BNP that you find Racist.

[segovius]

Originally posted by occam whisker
It wasn\'t me that started a thread ranting about the \"far-right racist British National Party (BNP)\". It was you. I\'m simply asking what is it about the political platform of the BNP that you find Racist.

Yes - I recall starting the thread.

There is a problem though which is why we need to establish what you think is racist. I know what I personally think is racist and I know what sane people think is racist and I know what is generally meant by the term.

My problem is that I am fairly sure your understanding does not fall into any of these categories. If you believe racism means "stroking fluffy bunnies" then I would have to answer no, the BNP are not racist - to you.

Of course you could simply accept the established view of the meaning of the term but I have a hunch that won't fly.

That's why we need to know. Now one more time: what do you understand by the term 'racist'?

Hurry up and we can put this one to bed. It's beginning to bore me and really, there is nothing worse than that.

[midwinter]

Originally posted by occam whisker
There are leading members of the US Democratic Party that one might consider to be Racist. (e.g. Robert Byrd). Does that make the Democratic Party a Racist Party. No it doesn\'t. So again, what is it about BNP policy that you find Racist.

You left out KKK when you used Byrd's name. Isn't there a rule that it has to be "Senator Robert 'KKK' Byrd"?

[occam whisker]

Originally posted by segovius
Yes - I recall starting the thread.

There is a problem though which is why we need to establish what you think is racist. I know what I personally think is racist and I know what sane people think is racist and I know what is generally meant by the term.

My problem is that I am fairly sure your understanding does not fall into any of these categories. If you believe racism means \"stroking fluffy bunnies\" then I would have to answer no, the BNP are not racist - to you.

Of course you could simply accept the established view of the meaning of the term but I have a hunch that won\'t fly.

That\'s why we need to know. Now one more time: what do you understand by the term \'racist\'?

Hurry up and we can put this one to bed. It\'s beginning to bore me and really, there is nothing worse than that.


You might also recall that is was you that termed the BNP a Racist political Party.

Let see, you call a political party Racist and then when someone asks you what is it about the policy of that political party that you find Racist, you turn around and ask that someone what do they mean by the term Racist? :lol:

Good one, Jester!

[occam whisker]

Originally posted by midwinter
You left out KKK when you used Byrd\'s name. Isn\'t there a rule that it has to be \"Senator Robert \'KKK\' Byrd\"?

That\'s reserved for the BNP. :lol: