Apple Insider v Apple Nova?

[jdcfsu]

I have been wondering this since joing here a little while ago. What is the difference between Apple Insider and Apple Nova? They have very similar designs and setups, yet AI has plenty more members. Forgive me if this has been discussed before but my search came up empty.

[BRussell]

Applenova originated as a kind of Appleinsider spinoff. The folks who started that used to be here, but then decided to start their own forum.

[SpamSandwich]

Frankly, I'd never heard of AppleNova, and I rather like the often incendiary discussions between really well-informed people here on AI. :D

[Chucker]

It was a fork over administrative disagreements, basically.

[SpamSandwich]

It was a fork over administrative disagreements, basically.

Sounds a bit Lord of the Rings, doesn't it? :)

[maimezvous]

Here I'll help you with your search. http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=45591 That is a link to a thread that, if you read the whole thing (it's long), you will understand a lot more. I had the same question for a while, and if you just want a basic answer it comes down to the .com on AI and the .org on AN. Some people didn't like the ads on AI and so they started AN. Like I said, that was just a very very basic summary. Go read the link if you want a more extensive answer. I started participating in this thread toward the end of it. Look at the dates as you read too.

[groverat]

AppleNova is prettier. AppleInsider lets you talk politics. AppleInsider publishes rumors.

[Chucker]

AppleNova has fewer assholes. ;)

[SpamSandwich]

Since when has that been the marque of quality on a discussion board? ;)

[Chucker]

I didn't say it was better that way. ;)

[addabox]

Indeed, that was long Apple Insider's slogan: "Come for the Apple rumors, stay for the head butting assholes".

A lot of the folks who were instrumental in starting the new site were positively phobic about the, um, spirited talk in whatever was acting as a political forum at the time (topic allocation has gone through several incarnations), although that was by no means the primary reason for the split.

The feeling was that ill-will and contentiousness seeped out of the political discussions and into the rest of the fora like some kind of toxic pollutant.

That has never been my experience here but try telling them that. Personally, I think the lack of at least a little bit of rancor makes Apple Nova a bit blander, although the bonding experience of getting it off the ground with a shared sense of ennobling outrage makes it clubbier, which has its plusses and minuses.

[jdcfsu]

Thanks for clearing that up. I figured they had to be somehow connected. Kind of silly it was over administrative differences -- sounds like big business.

[thuh Freak]

theres some history over at AN also, in a locked forum ("Viva la Revolucion").

[groverat]

Yeah, that's what it was. It was those mean political thinkers' fault!

[BRussell]

Indeed, that was long Apple Insider's slogan: "Come for the Apple rumors, stay for the head butting assholes".

A lot of the folks who were instrumental in starting the new site were positively phobic about the, um, spirited talk in whatever was acting as a political forum at the time (topic allocation has gone through several incarnations), although that was by no means the primary reason for the split.

The feeling was that ill-will and contentiousness seeped out of the political discussions and into the rest of the fora like some kind of toxic pollutant.

That has never been my experience here but try telling them that. Personally, I think the lack of at least a little bit of rancor makes Apple Nova a bit blander, although the bonding experience of getting it off the ground with a shared sense of ennobling outrage makes it clubbier, which has its plusses and minuses. I admit that I've probably spent a total of 3 minutes at Applenova, but I remember when the split happened, and I don't recall anything at all about the political forums. You're right that they didn't like the political forum anyway, but that was incidental, from what I recall.

As I recall, the administrator here and the higher-ups got into a hissy fight over what the board should look like. It was extremely lame, as I remember it, with all kinds of ridiculous drama. But it seems like they've got a nice group over there now, and I'm sorry they took some good folks with them that I miss reading.

[CosmoNut]

Somewhere I have a .pdf of a key thread that led to the big split. I'll have to see if I can find it and come up with a better answer for you all.

[709]

Blame Tina. ;)

[hardeeharhar]

While the fundamentals of the split were over ads and Kasper's then absent dictatorial bent, it was more over the creation of a hidden forum where a clickish but and certainly not general group of users participated in school boy discussions and fomented a new forum sans ads etc... This group included at least one of the admins and several moderators, needless to say but I think Kasper saw this forum and some of its topics as a coup against him and went on a ban/lock account spree, including killing my primary identity.

The two forums have a large number of shared members -- I post here for the vitrol, and there for the general humor value in it all...

[addabox]

I should clarify: I know that political forums had nothing to do with the split, I was just noting that that had long been a source of contention with a lot of the folks who created Nova and they took the opportunity of a new site to put their feelings about that into practice. You can still find the occasional reference to "those assholes who argue all day over at AI".

[Splinemodel]

AppleNova started because Brad is a twat.

. . .

Brad is still a twat.

[MiMac]

:wow: 'ol StarfleetX... now that's history!

[jdcfsu]

Sounds like the whole skisim was pretty petty.

[CosmoNut]

Petty indeed. I have nothing but self disdain for the part I played in it.

[alcimedes]

I admit that I've probably spent a total of 3 minutes at Applenova, but I remember when the split happened, and I don't recall anything at all about the political forums. You're right that they didn't like the political forum anyway, but that was incidental, from what I recall.

As I recall, the administrator here and the higher-ups got into a hissy fight over what the board should look like. It was extremely lame, as I remember it, with all kinds of ridiculous drama. But it seems like they've got a nice group over there now, and I'm sorry they took some good folks with them that I miss reading.

Well, I've spent a bit more than 3 mintues at AN, so I can at least give another perspective on it. :lol:

Some of us wanted to run the forums ad free. It wasn't going to happen. Some also felt that the forums were being neglected in the face of the front page (which is fine since the forums generate little to no revenue) and weren't happy about that either.

Of course everything happened about as piss poorly as possible, and there was high drama but it seems that's internet life for you.

In the end everyone got their own sandbox.

The politics bit wasn't a reason for a split, but it was a policy change from AI.

An no avatars. :D

[groverat]

People retelling the history always leave out Brad hacking the AI forums and posting as Kasper.

Both sites are pretty boring.

[maimezvous]

People retelling the history always leave out Brad hacking the AI forums and posting as Kasper.

Both sites are pretty boring.

Interesting, in everything that I read, I never heard that Brad did that. This piece of information really puts a twist on things. So was it Brad that went on that banning spree?

[FormerLurker]

IIRC, Brad got banned without any notice or explanation, so he signed in as Kaspar simply to let people know what was going on. I don't believe that he was ever attempting to "impersonate" Kaspar.

And, the "banning spree" was all Kaspar. People were getting banned just for relaying what happened, as I am doing here.

So if I get banned anytime soon, you'll know why.
:D

[maimezvous]

IIRC, Brad got banned without any notice or explanation, so he signed in as Kaspar simply to let people know what was going on. I don't believe that he was ever attempting to "impersonate" Kaspar.

And, the "banning spree" was all Kaspar. People were getting banned just for relaying what happened, as I am doing here.

So if I get banned anytime soon, you'll know why.
:D

Ok I'll be sure to keep an eye out for you, or the lack of you. Thanks for the answer. I find this whole thing extremely interesting. It's really what got me started posting on here. I want to know the WHOLE story. Not just individuals biased opinions, but I'll just have to take what I can get and piece everything together. So far it's been fun.

[Hassan i Sabbah]

It was, and still is, totally pathetic. :)

[Frank777]

Being Canadian, I value dual citizenship.
(It may come in handy if I ever get trapped in a war zone like PO...I mean...Lebanon.)

I joined AI formally after the Great Blackout, but was lurking when it was still Reality.

I go to both AI and Nova for Mac-related discussions. I think at Nova there's a bit more playfulness, where people don't take their posts (or themselves) so seriously as at AI.

Whenever I feel like rumbling a bit, I put on a flakjacket and head over to Political Outsider. ;)

[maimezvous]

Whenever I feel like rumbling a bit, I put on a flakjacket and head over to Political Outsider. ;)

Only a flack jacket? I don't think I would post in there with anything less than a bomb technician's suit.

[addabox]

Only a flack jacket? I don't think I would post in there with anything less than a bomb technician's suit.

Oh my no, we of the PO are affable and accommodating to a fault! Everybody's having so much fun! It's a big party right next door!

Come on in! (eyes dart around as hand slips behind back)

That's right...... just one......more......step.....

[Guybrush Threepwood]

Well what does Junkyard Dawg wear then?

[maimezvous]

Well what does Junkyard Dawg wear then?

One of those fine leather jackets you are selling.

[crazychester]

I doubt Junkyard bothers with clothes anymore. Not much point really when you're pretty much permanently engaged in trying to self-fellate.

[Powerdoc]

I doubt Junkyard bothers with clothes anymore. Not much point really when you're pretty much permanently engaged in trying to self-fellate.

:lol:
You have a good memory CC :D

[hardeeharhar]

Yay, crazy! How goes taking down the Australian government?

[addabox]

Sounds like something those AN thirtysomething perpetual frat boys would say.

That's the best characterization I've heard. Not that there's anything wrong with that, mind you, it's just that a little goes a long way.

Also, I am still completely baffled by Chester's posting pattern. I think she's getting access to a computer for 15 seconds every 23 days.

[thuh Freak]

That's the best characterization I've heard. Not that there's anything wrong with that, mind you, it's just that a little goes a long way.
idk. i took it as a dickish thing to say, atleast imo.

i just kinda get the feeling from some of these posts that theres still kind of a rift tween the forums. i thot that was buried long ago. both got their benefits. for my forum'ing, i mostly post there, with the exception of PO i go here. and since this was on my way, i jumped in here.

[torifile]

idk. i took it as a dickish thing to say, atleast imo.

i just kinda get the feeling from some of these posts that theres still kind of a rift tween the forums. i thot that was buried long ago. both got their benefits. for my forum'ing, i mostly post there, with the exception of PO i go here. and since this was on my way, i jumped in here.
I just stumbled upon this thread because AN seems to be down at the moment. Anyway, I thought it was an interesting read. Nice to know what some who stuck around here think about those of us who migrated over there. And, for what it's worth, I was never in a frat (though I'm sadly a 30-something now... I wasn't at the time!).

Anyway, bumping this thread just because it's not locked. And I feel like it. :D

[CubeDude]

I just stumbled upon this thread because AN seems to be down at the moment. Anyway, I thought it was an interesting read. Nice to know what some who stuck around here think about those of us who migrated over there. And, for what it's worth, I was never in a frat (though I'm sadly a 30-something now... I wasn't at the time!).

Anyway, bumping this thread just because it's not locked. And I feel like it. :DYeah, I decided to take a look over here as well, with the 404 I'm getting over at AN. I guess no one has any answers yet. :\

[PKIDelirium]

Me three. :lol:

[turtle2472]

Yeah. I've been working to get on there for a while too. I was looking for the other thread when AN had it's last issue but I couldn't find it either. Seems to have disappeared from the forum completely.

Edit: Yep, they must have been deleted. My post count is only 1 and I've posted here when AN had issues last time. :\

[709]

Hey. Listen guys...this is not a playground to frolic in while your other place is wherever.

Show some fucking respect. :mad::rolleyes:



Although ... to pass the time ... I've got my scrotum *almost* over my head.

[turtle2472]

Hey. Listen guys...this is not a playground to frolic in while your other place is wherever.

Show some fucking respect. :mad::rolleyes:



Although ... to pass the time ... I've got my scrotum *almost* over my head.

Funny as always. :)

[Hassan i Sabbah]

Funny as always. :)

I, too, have my scrotum almost over my head, so it gives me great pleasure to welcome our novite friends (and I post there from time-to-time) here while over there is 404'd and all gayed out.

[drewprops]

Oy vey.
The nameservers are super-borked over at AN right now (hey all you active members of AI, I'm one of your senior classmates... been awhile since I've posted here ::waves::).


I have a PDF of the DNS report for AppleNova right here:
http://homepage.mac.com/drewprops/applenova/applenova_DNS.pdf

Suckage.

Hassan, you didn't happen to chain your bike to AppleNova did you?

[Hassan i Sabbah]

Oy vey.
The nameservers are super-borked over at AN right now (hey all you active members of AI, I'm one of your senior classmates... been awhile since I've posted here ::waves::).


I have a PDF of the DNS report for AppleNova right here:
http://homepage.mac.com/drewprops/applenova/applenova_DNS.pdf

Suckage.

Hassan, you didn't happen to chain your bike to AppleNova did you?

:(

All I did was lean it against 'nova while I tried to steal someone's girlfriend. I got into a fight and the next I knew someone was making off with the whole forum.

I'm so sorry.

[perfecting_zero]

::: waves :::


I hope that 404 error issue gets sorted out soon. :)

[Schnauzer]

I miss Applenova, hope it gets fixed soon :(

[CubeDude]

Oy vey.
The nameservers are super-borked over at AN right now (hey all you active members of AI, I'm one of your senior classmates... been awhile since I've posted here ::waves::).


I have a PDF of the DNS report for AppleNova right here:
http://homepage.mac.com/drewprops/applenova/applenova_DNS.pdf

Suckage.

Hassan, you didn't happen to chain your bike to AppleNova did you?Drew, since it's a nameserver issue, would we be able to get access with the IP?

[PKIDelirium]

That's a possibility, but is there any way to get the IP with the nameservers all borked?

[Hassan i Sabbah]

That's a possibility, but is there any way to get the IP with the nameservers all borked?

Hey, why don't we all forget about it and make up? And just pretend it never happened, and be friends again?

We can all live here, together.

Like a proper family.

[709]

The other place is prettier though. It'd be like moving back to an apartment that the landlord doesn't care about vs. a sparsely yet tastefully decorated house... that we've apparently lost the keys to.

I suggest we all just go outside and think about what nice things we can do for our fellow humans.

For example, I was just out walking the dog and I thought about helping an old lady chip ice off her sidewalk. That would've been nice for her! I'm going back outside to think of more.

[Hassan i Sabbah]

We can do it.

It's Christmas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVK_mJrLbmY

[FormerLurker]

All I've been able to find out so far is that Admin "A" is on vacation at the moment, and I'm not sure how to get in touch with Admin "B".

[Cake]

We had a lively iChat going last night which was fun, but I miss AppleNova proper.

[thegelding]

ha...i wonder what my post count is here...did it reset to zero?...

and yes i am a pre blackout AI human that hasn't been here in a while...hoping to find why another site is down...likely tied to the soon to be demise of thinksecret i assume...

and i lurk here from time to time, but usually don't post...seems to be alot of overlap aways...and many post at both sites...

but i admit i 99% stay at the other site mostly because two apple nerd sites is harder to keep track of than one apple nerd site...and i have my scooter nerd site to visit and my nintendo wii nerd site to visit...so that limits me some...only so much nerdiness to go around

though i miss powerdoc and wish he would visit AN from time to time

as for the 30 something frat remark, eh, i'll let it pass as i'm well past my 30's (sadly)...

as for re-combining the two sites back into one...not a horrid idea...but it's not horrid having them split either...

eh, whatever will be will be...

happy holidays...hug and hold tight you loved ones...

g

[Hassan i Sabbah]

(I wasn't serious. :) )

[thegelding]

ouch...

well you could always just add any of us to your ignore list...i was just looking through my user cp and noticed a couple i have there that i forgot...

the ignore list can be a godsend....

i also just quickly looked through Pol. outsider....ah, the memories just flooded back like pliers to my testicles...mmmm, the next year should be happy times for the PO junkies

g

[Carol A]

All I've been able to find out so far is that Admin "A" is on vacation at the moment, and I'm not sure how to get in touch with Admin "B".
Hi babe. :)

Check your PMs. ;)

[thegelding]

if admin A is visiting family in the jemez moutains, i could always swing by and take him a message if needed...

but im not sure who admin A is (vs admin b through e or f)...though i might guess that A stands for the first letter of the user name?

g

[farenheit]

I doubt it has anything to do with the demise of thinksecret. The only thing that connects the two sites is a hyperlink. Different hosts and all. Seems like the dns is borked or something.

[bryanb]

This is so odd. It's the same but different.

I'm turbulentfurball, btw.

[trumptman]

I think you guys should take all this downtime to go read by blog. Then you should click on all the adsense ads and I will tell you what miserly amount it made today.

[Carol A]

All I've been able to find out so far is that Admin "A" is on vacation at the moment, and I'm not sure how to get in touch with Admin "B".
Yoohoo!

Check your PMs here at AI, FFL, for the latest news.

Okay? :)

[PKIDelirium]

Someone should PM me, I feel left out. :p

[atomicbartbeans]

Dearest Carol,

I would also like said latest news. :)

*sets PM inbox on auto-refresh*

[Chucker]

I think you guys should take all this downtime to go read by blog. Then you should click on all the adsense ads and I will tell you what miserly amount it made today.

In the spirit of holiday season, you'll transfer those revenues to my account, right?

No?

How about Kiva?

;)

[Carol A]

if admin A is visiting family in the jemez moutains, i could always swing by and take him a message if needed...

g
Check your PMs here at AI, g. :)

[Moogs]

Greetings all. Hassan, my brotha from anotha mutha... what it is?

Glad to hear it's just a DNS issue and not a server asplosion.

Look at all you shameless traitors, posting in AI! Kidding, kidding.

[Carol A]

Look at all you shameless traitors, posting in AI!
I think I'll have to smack you around for that comment, Moogs. :)

(also "just kidding" ;) :p )

Apparently there has been a server problem.

Alas, not a very nice surprise to find in our Christmas stockings, is it?

Waiting to hear what develops.

[Frank777]

Hey, why don't we all forget about it and make up? And just pretend it never happened, and be friends again?

We can all live here, together.

Like a proper family.

Hassan, have you ever thought of pitching this idea to the Israeli-Palestinian negotiators?

I think you might have more luck with them.

[trumptman]

In the spirit of holiday season, you'll transfer those revenues to my account, right?

No?

How about Kiva?

;)

I'll gladly add it to the Kiva.org account. Of course it has to get to $100 first and it is at... I think it was $.27. Yippee!

Speaking of Kiva, just had a loan finish up and lent the same money back out again. I have another loan at 92% and I'll lend that money back out again as well. People in the third world are more trustworthy than people in the U.S. I'd love to have the same repayment rate on my Prosper.com account.

[MarcUK]

People in the third world are more trustworthy than people in the U.S

Ever wonder why that was?

[hardeeharhar]

aww.... it's a happy reunion... at a motel with a urine tinted kiddie pool...

[turtle2472]

Wow, I was expecting this to be fixed by now. I've made my trip and still nothing.

What's so funny is after seeing Hassan on here my first thought was wondering if he had a bike anywhere near here. Now I feel really late for the party on that one.

Carol, can I know something too? Please? :D

Is FormerLurker FFL? Most of the member I know are using the same name here and that makes it easier for me to know who each other is.

[Carol A]

Someone should PM me, I feel left out. :p

Dearest Carol,

I would also like said latest news. :)

*sets PM inbox on auto-refresh*

Wow, I was expecting this to be fixed by now. I've made my trip and still nothing.

What's so funny is after seeing Hassan on here my first thought was wondering if he had a bike anywhere near here. Now I feel really late for the party on that one.

Carol, can I know something too? Please? :D

Is FormerLurker FFL? Most of the member I know are using the same name here and that makes it easier for me to know who each other is.
As I said above, there has been a server problem.

Waiting to see how things work out wrt that.

[turtle2472]

As I said above, there has been a server problem.

Waiting to see how things work out wrt that.

Thanks Carol. :) Funny how you really miss a place when you can't get there. Glad to know it's being resolved though.

[details]

AppleNova FTW.

[BenP]

Is FormerLurker FFL? Most of the member I know are using the same name here and that makes it easier for me to know who each other is.

Former FormerLurker, maybe?

Anyway, I miss AN.

[atomicbartbeans]

If any of the other refugees are looking for good company, some of us are chilling out in the AIM chat room...

[Cake]

Yeah, applenova.
(I'm NosferaDrew btw) :)

[FormerLurker]

Wow, I was expecting this to be fixed by now. I've made my trip and still nothing.

What's so funny is after seeing Hassan on here my first thought was wondering if he had a bike anywhere near here. Now I feel really late for the party on that one.

Carol, can I know something too? Please? :D

Is FormerLurker FFL? Most of the member I know are using the same name here and that makes it easier for me to know who each other is.Geez, I head out for a few hours and I miss the party!

FFL originally stood for Formerly FormerLurker, as it didn't make much sense to be a FormerLurker on a brand new site. :D

Also Fishhead For Life, as well as From FL.

Thanks for the PM's, Carol - you have replies now if you haven't read them yet.

[atomicbartbeans]

Jesus crap... it took visiting here on my iPod (which doesn't have a modified hosts file) to realize how awful the advertising is D:

[BlueRabbit]

I go to Canada for a few days, and look what happens! :p

I wonder what my post count is now...

[turtle2472]

If any of the other refugees are looking for good company, some of us are chilling out in the AIM chat room...

I should head over there but I'm on vacation myself and will have to hold off for now. I'll see about stopping in later tonight though.

Yeah, applenova.
(I'm NosferaDrew btw) :)

I figured you out by your profile and your chat handle. :)

Geez, I head out for a few hours and I miss the party!

FFL originally stood for Formerly FormerLurker, as it didn't make much sense to be a FormerLurker on a brand new site. :D

Also Fishhead For Life, as well as From FL.

I thought FFL was for Fishhead For Life. Since I haven't been a very active member here I never knew.

I go to Canada for a few days, and look what happens! :p

I wonder what my post count is now...

I had a few posts from the last time AN went down but they have all disappeared for some reason. Searching for AppleNova only brought up a few threads and none of them are from the last time AN went down.

Either way, now I'm becoming a little more active here though I do so hate getting pop-ups and pop-unders.

[Cake]

I should head over there but I'm on vacation myself and will have to hold off for now. I'll see about stopping in later tonight though.

Not in VA?
I'll be in Virginia Beach after Christmas and me and my Mom will be heading up to Williamsburg where my sister and family lives for First Night in Williamsburg.

Not looking forward to the cold!

[torifile]

Wow, I was expecting this to be fixed by now. I've made my trip and still nothing.

What's so funny is after seeing Hassan on here my first thought was wondering if he had a bike anywhere near here. Now I feel really late for the party on that one.

Carol, can I know something too? Please? :D

Is FormerLurker FFL? Most of the member I know are using the same name here and that makes it easier for me to know who each other is.
Yeah, FFL stands for, I think, "Formerly Former Lurker". The others are self-explanatory.

[turtle2472]

Not in VA?
I'll be in Virginia Beach after Christmas and me and my Mom will be heading up to Williamsburg where my sister and family lives for First Night in Williamsburg.

Not looking forward to the cold!

Yep, I left Va Beach last night and am now in Charleston SC. Seems like the weather is supposed to be about 72DegF tomorrow! I'll be back to the Beach middle of next week. I can't say I'll miss the cold while I'm down here either.

Williamsburg is very cool and you should have a blast. How long will you be in the area?

[WLP]

Nobody worry...

I BROUGHT THE BEER!


Now we can have a true reunion. :) :\

[turtle2472]

They're making progress at least now:
http://kellyent.dyndns.org:8080/an/gettingthere.png

Better than generic 404 errors.

Nobody worry...

I BROUGHT THE BEER!


Now we can have a true reunion. :) :\

Yep, sounds like my family reunions. :\

[drewprops]

Well, I sure do hope that the current crop of active AI users aren't too ticked by us old-timers dropping in like this... so unexpected, and during the holidays at that! Thanks you guys. We should make you a cake or something when we get our house back... right now it feels like we've moved back into the old family home or something... I couldn't resist popping into PO just to see how nasty some of the exchanges were... good times!! :lol:

[turtle2472]

It is rather funny and even more so when you read the first page or so of this thread. :lol:

[PKIDelirium]

Still just a 404 for me, I guess my ISP's DNS hasn't caught up yet. Hopefully it can get straightened out soon.

[CubeDude]

They're making progress at least now:
http://kellyent.dyndns.org:8080/an/gettingthere.pngI'm still getting the generic error. :\

edit: I suppose I should have mentioned that I'm Ryan over at AN, for those who weren't around when I was going by this handle.

[PKIDelirium]

Ah I see that now if I go to applenova.com. It's my bookmark to forums.applenova.com that is still just a 404.

[LudwigVan]

Ah I see that now if I go to applenova.com. It's my bookmark to forums.applenova.com that is still just a 404.

Yup, I was just about to mention that too.

[audiopollution]

Jesus ... you guys are looking old now.

[drewprops]

:lol:

You don't even know!! All these whippersnappers running around here are really driving that point home!

We're like an ark-ship that went zooshing off into the great beyond to settle new worlds... on our "planet" we have a custom of making BEER a choice on most every poll, in order to allow people to avoid selecting a controversial opinion, thus avoiding long-standing rivalries. It usually works out nicely, and we (for the most part) remain so laid back that we don't have time to fuss and grumble.

But for me, the unpleasantries of the breakaway weren't directly related to me, so AI is still the "home team", just not where I play now. I'd sure hope that the AI crowd would come shack up with us if this old house has any hiccups.

[audiopollution]

... we have a custom of making BEER a choice on most every poll, in order to allow people to avoid selecting a controversial opinion, thus avoiding long-standing rivalries.

Do you even realize why we don't have that option on polls here?

Murbot took it all with him.

:mad:

[drewprops]

Ha!!
Yes, we have beer, motorcycles and hard drive reformatting lessons from time to time.
And then there's my Poo Log. (spotty results today gang)

Hey....
What's with all the pop-behinds.... are these coming from AI? Is that something new? ::sigh::
I want my "clubby fraternity" back... I've never belonged to something so exclusive before.... ;)

[audiopollution]

Ha!!
Yes, we have beer, motorcycles and hard drive reformatting lessons from time to time.
And then there's my Poo Log. (spotty results today gang)

Hey....
What's with all the pop-behinds.... are these coming from AI? Is that something new? ::sigh::
I want my "clubby fraternity" back... I've never belonged to something so exclusive before.... ;)

I've activated the extra-special pop-behind machine. It's only serving them to people who haven't visited here in some time.

Or something like that.

[midwinter]

I just want to say that, given my history with terrorist attacks, I have not been near AN for quite some time.

Or have I....

I still think Hassan chained his bike to it.

[GSpotter]

:But for me, the unpleasantries of the breakaway weren't directly related to me, so AI is still the "home team", just not where I play now. I'd sure hope that the AI crowd would come shack up with us if this old house has any hiccups.You expressed exactly my feelings. I didn't have the time to visit two forums on a regular basis, so I chose the option with more beer and astrology/pizza ... 8-) :D ;)

[Hassan i Sabbah]

Moogavitch.

:)

Here we all are, under the same roof again. Apart from Tina.

I miss her.

[Schnauzer]

Hey Windswept :)

[HHogan]

old people ftw

[groverat]

I'd sure hope that the AI crowd would come shack up with us if this old house has any hiccups.

I'll pee on all the carpets.

[farenheit]

two days is quite a long time for a server issue.

[Hassan i Sabbah]

I think you're going to have to stay!

This is cosy.

Beer. Boobies.

Just like home. :)

[perfecting_zero]

Well, maybe I wouldn't be on as many "ignore lists" over here. :p

[Hassan i Sabbah]

Well, maybe I wouldn't be on as many "ignore lists" over here. :p

Who the fuck are you?

[Hassan i Sabbah]

Kidding.

[hardeeharhar]

Don;t worry Hassan, no body knows who he is...

[RowdyScot]

It's kinda awkward over here...not bad, but...awkward. I wasn't exactly over at AI in the first place, so that makes it all the weirder. Anyways, so this whole thing is a DNS issue? *sigh*

BTW, Moogs, check your PM.

[PKIDelirium]

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6922/picture991tc6.png

:lol:

[groverat]

Apple No Va

(Spanish jokes FTW)

[RowdyScot]

Apple Inside Her

Not what Steve Jobs intended.

[farenheit]

Wurnstrum..!:mad:

[perfecting_zero]

Who the fuck are you?

See, that's better than slipping into oblivion. Thanks. :)




(and get your fucking bicycle away from me)

[perfecting_zero]

Kidding.

[CubeDude]

Brad & Co appear to be making progress. vBulletin is back up, at least.

And, of course, Sniper's Serenity.

;)

[hardeeharhar]

See, that's better than slipping into oblivion. Thanks. :)




(and get your fucking bicycle away from me)
see this perfecting zero fellow is non-too-bright... while mimicry is the best form of flattery or so i have been told, he does it so inelegantly it is insulting that he believes he is up to hassan's standards...

[ThunderPoit]

umm, quick question, but whats all this about hassan's bike?

[FormerLurker]

Brad & Co appear to be making progress. vBulletin is back up, at least.

And, of course, Sniper's Serenity.

;)
ETA is now officially.....
SOON

[CubeDude]

Alright, AN is back.

Thanks for letting us stay for a few days, guys!

[details]

Bye bye guys!!! Thanks for the memories!!!!!!

I won't miss u and ur sucki NBC ads!!!

[InactionMan]

It's still down for me. Boo-hoo.

[audiopollution]

Bye bye guys!!! Thanks for the memories!!!!!!

I won't miss u and ur sucki NBC ads!!!

I'll miss everyone, from the AN gang, except you.

[turtle2472]

Yes, thanks for letting us crash at your place while ours was being repaired. Feel free to do the same if your house burns down too. :)

[alcimedes]

Should be back up for everyone shortly, if not reboot or clear your DNS cache.

We moved everything to a new server.

Odds are you're still pointing to the old, dead server.

I'm on vacation in Puerto Rico so wasn't responding to problems as quickly as I normally would like to.

Thanks AI, it's nice to visit the old digs from time to time. :)

[audiopollution]

Thanks AI, it's nice to visit the old digs from time to time. :)

Glad to have you. :)

[crazychester]

I'll miss everyone, from the AN gang, except you.
Ah, 'tis a sad fact of life audio that there will always be some people who just have no class at all. Sigh.

[details]

I'll miss everyone, from the AN gang, except you.

You've convinced me to stay!!! Heellooo new family!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

P.S. I'm sorry when I called ur NBC ads teh sucki. They are actually rly pretty.

[audiopollution]

You've convinced me to stay!!! Heellooo new family!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

P.S. I'm sorry when I called ur NBC ads teh sucki. They are actually rly pretty.

I can barely contain my excitement.

[details]

Virtual hug time!!!!!!!! :):):)8-):smokey:

[Hassan i Sabbah]

Bye bye guys!!! Thanks for the memories!!!!!!

I won't miss u and ur sucki NBC ads!!!

Classy!

[drewprops]

Hassan was living in London and had a penchant for having his really nice bicycle stolen every so often. The details are his own, but needless to say you don't want anything you love to be kept near his bicycle.... :lol:

And as far as the server fix goes, I have my Poo Log to maintain over there but maybe I'll stick around here for just awhile to watch groverat snarl and stomp, I forgot how much fun that was.... ;)

[curiousuburb]

Should be back up for everyone shortly, if not reboot or clear your DNS cache.

We moved everything to a new server.

Odds are you're still pointing to the old, dead server.



Not dead, just nailed to the perch...

As for teh "lookupd -flushcache", and reboot, still no joy. :grumble:

Got an alternative link or solution?

Pining for fjords.

Glad Yule to all at AI.

[drewprops]

'Burb, we were trying figure out how to tell you this... but the whole "AppleNova is Down" thing was just a ruse.
:lol:
Have fun over here at AI, they're really swell people and they'll take care of you and everything!!
Um, you don't mind if we keep all the pictures of Mars do you?
They like space stuff over here too...

[Dogcow]

hmm... this all might be the egg nog talking... This thread brings back some good old memories of blackouts, secret forums, watermelons, and ugly black and green color schemes.

I'm curious how many posters here remember reading pages that looked like this: http://web.archive.org/web/19990429094022/http://www.appleinsider.com/ or this http://web.archive.org/web/20010207044233/forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi

I can't believe I was browsing these same forums over 6 years ago. I've been a lurker for the past couple years, but have always enjoyed the conversation. It's been fun to watch a new "generation" of Appleinsider members join in.

As for the the whole Applenova thing, I was a witness to the conflict that resulted in its creation, but always thought the whole thing was rather... juvenile. But it's good to see both communities thriving considering the state of apple now compared to just a few years ago.

[maimezvous]

hmm... this all might be the egg nog talking... This thread brings back some good old memories of blackouts, secret forums, watermelons, and ugly black and green color schemes.

I'm curious how many posters here remember reading pages that looked like this: http://web.archive.org/web/19990429094022/http://www.appleinsider.com/ or this http://web.archive.org/web/20010207044233/forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi

I can't believe I was browsing these same forums over 6 years ago. I've been a lurker for the past couple years, but have always enjoyed the conversation. It's been fun to watch a new "generation" of Appleinsider members join in.

As for the the whole Applenova thing, I was a witness to the conflict that resulted in its creation, but always thought the whole thing was rather... juvenile. But it's good to see both communities thriving considering the state of apple now compared to just a few years ago.

I understand everything you referenced but the watermelon. Nobody has told me what the watermelon has to do with anything. :(

[Fellowship]

Greetings to all my AN friends!!

Nice to see you all

Fellowship

[drewprops]

We actually covered the Watermelon thing over at AN one time back in '05, here's the link to that story (http://forums.applenova.com/showthread.php?t=7944&highlight=watermelon).... but of course it was something from back over here at AI... though it must have been from pre-blackout (unless there have been subsequent thread wiping blackouts since then).... I can't find any references to it in a quick search of the forums here... that makes me a bit sad :(

[crazychester]

It's just the vbb search function is crap. Doesn't work at AN either. The threads are there but don't rely on search to find them.

Fellows, missed young Oliver previously. Saw him (pics a year old now I gather) in the PO thread. Beautiful boy Fellowship! No less than I'd expect. :D (And a very snappy dresser.) Belated congrats to you and Heather. :)

[drewprops]

Oh my golly, I missed Fellowship's message :wow:
Wow, how long has it been? And with a new little boy?!! (or was that one of y'all's doggie threads?)

[Fellowship]

Fellows, missed young Oliver previously. Saw him (pics a year old now I gather) in the PO thread. Beautiful boy Fellowship! No less than I'd expect. :D (And a very snappy dresser.) Belated congrats to you and Heather. :)

Hey you! Oliver will be one this Jan (that pic in the PO thread is recent about 2 weeks old) and Oliver is a good boy. It is nice to see you! I sure hope you are not getting in to too much trouble with yourself..

You know you are welcome to come see us old folks here any ole time you get the bug!!

We like things mixed up!

Stay cool and don't be a stranger or I will have to send my guys after ya!

Love and Joy to all

Fellows

[Fellowship]

Oh my golly, I missed Fellowship's message :wow:
Wow, how long has it been? And with a new little boy?!! (or was that one of y'all's doggie threads?)

drewprops how the heck are ya? It has been too long! Merry Christmas to you. I have a son now and he is a great kid so far! I sure hope to see you around here and there as you get the chance :)

Stay cool buddy!!!

Fellows

[Powerdoc]

ha...i wonder what my post count is here...did it reset to zero?...

and yes i am a pre blackout AI human that hasn't been here in a while...hoping to find why another site is down...likely tied to the soon to be demise of thinksecret i assume...

and i lurk here from time to time, but usually don't post...seems to be alot of overlap aways...and many post at both sites...

but i admit i 99% stay at the other site mostly because two apple nerd sites is harder to keep track of than one apple nerd site...and i have my scooter nerd site to visit and my nintendo wii nerd site to visit...so that limits me some...only so much nerdiness to go around

though i miss powerdoc and wish he would visit AN from time to time

as for the 30 something frat remark, eh, i'll let it pass as i'm well past my 30's (sadly)...

as for re-combining the two sites back into one...not a horrid idea...but it's not horrid having them split either...

eh, whatever will be will be...

happy holidays...hug and hold tight you loved ones...

g

Hello Thegelding. It's nice to meet you again. I am not here very often now too (I am more concerned right now by photography, sound and piano.

Merry christmass to you all.

[PBG4 Dude]

drewprops how the heck are ya? It has been too long! Merry Christmas to you. I have a son now and he is a great kid so far! I sure hope to see you around here and there as you get the chance :)

Stay cool buddy!!!

Fellows

Congrats on becoming a daddy! My son will be 3 next month and this Christmas was the first one where he was real excited to see what Santa brought him, and we were quite excited while putting together his first bicycle and hiding it inside a pop-up fire truck. :D

(I'm bpMF at AN.)

[alcimedes]

Hello Thegelding. It's nice to meet you again. I am not here very often now too (I am more concerned right now by photography, sound and piano.

Merry christmas to you all.

You're always welcome to add some new photography to the Color Photography (http://forums.applenova.com/showthread.php?t=21241) thread. Not to pimp anything, but it's been a while. :)

If anyone is still having DNS problems, PM me here and I'll see if we can figure something out.

[Powerdoc]

You're always welcome to add some new photography to the Color Photography (http://forums.applenova.com/showthread.php?t=21241) thread. Not to pimp anything, but it's been a while. :)

If anyone is still having DNS problems, PM me here and I'll see if we can figure something out.

Thanks for the invivation Alcimedes

[curiousuburb]

Not dead, just nailed to the perch...

As for teh "lookupd -flushcache", and reboot, still no joy. :grumble:

Got an alternative link or solution?

Pining for fjords.

Glad Yule to all at AI.


If anyone is still having DNS problems, PM me here and I'll see if we can figure something out.

Update:
I was having zero luck, despite flushing cache and rebooting.

Then I remembered a previous migration/blackout in 2005 which IIRC included editing my hosts file.

That, of course was pre-Tiger, and easier to modify back then.

Poking around in terminal and vim revealed that as well as blocking ads, I had hardcoded the old applenova IP to various domain names (.org, etc).

A bit of editing and sudo later, and presto... Intertubitude, dude.

[Escher]

How funny. I was on vacation in Switzerland during the DNS problems at AN, so I missed the reunion here at AI. (Can't really read AN or AI on my CrackBerry.) But I came here to check out Temporary Insanity while waiting for MWSF announcements.

Totally cool to see Dogcow post to the old post-Reality color scheme. Can't believe that I've been following Mac rumors for well over a decade now.

Time flies, and I've been focusing my sporadic reading and posting on AN. Due to the smaller membership, AN is just easier to keep track of. I consider both AI and AN as my virtual family. It's really nice to see so many old faces here.

Am into my thirties now too, with a lovely daughter age two and a half. Apple and Macs are cool, but family is even more important. Glad to see many work on the latter. ;)

Happy New Year, everybody!

PS: I cannot wait to order a new Sub-MacBook right after the Stevenote on the 15th!! (What did you expect?) :D

[farenheit]

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3914/picture1mp7.jpg

[Amorph]

So it is actually worthwhile for me to poke my head in AO every so often.

All these usernames... it's just like old times.

As for the reason for the split: As someone who was right in the thick of it let's just say that it's deservedly obscure. :no:

Nice to see you all again!

[Escher]

Looks you might finally get that subnotebook, Escher.

I'm counting on it, Shawn!

So it is actually worthwhile for me to poke my head in AO every so often.

All these usernames... it's just like old times.

Nice to see you all again!

Good to see you, Amorph! Same feelings here.

It feels almost like a college reunion. Even though I've never actually been to one of mine. :lol: