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Proud iBook Owner 2k2
08-07-2002, 07:55 PM
Does anyone know if that is available as well? I found Win vers 1 just fine.... Hmm....

Brad
08-07-2002, 07:59 PM
It's not Mac OS version 1; it's System 1. It wasn't called Mac OS until after System 7.5.

Anyway, why do you want it? For nostalgic purposes or perhaps to run under an emulator? Remember, you won't be able to use it on any Mac made in the past several years.

Proud iBook Owner 2k2
08-07-2002, 08:01 PM
yeah under an emu... i wanna see if its a GUI or not...

Proud iBook Owner 2k2
08-07-2002, 08:03 PM
oh and erase the other OS 1 thread i made...

Fran441
08-07-2002, 08:19 PM
Yes, System 1 (and earlier) exists and has a GUI. Otherwise, it wouldn't be the Mac OS. ;)

I believe it only runs on the original Mac (and perhaps the Plus).

You might find what you are looking for here:
<a href="http://jagshouse.com/macosdownload.html" target="_blank">http://jagshouse.com/macosdownload.html</a>

clonenode
08-07-2002, 08:26 PM
The original Mac OS (System 1) was a GUI. The <a href="http://www.apple-history.com" target="_blank">Apple Histoy</a> site has some info on it.

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Brad
08-07-2002, 08:32 PM
As others have said, yes, it was a GUI.

If you get it working, you'll probably find it eerily familiar. There really haven't been any major breakthroughs in GUI design since the original Macintosh.

Spart
08-07-2002, 08:48 PM
:rolleyes:

The Mac OS/System x.x.x has ALWAYS had a GUI, and only recently (10.0.0+) included a CLI.

That being said, here are some links to parts of System 1.1:

<a href="http://www.vieuxmac.com/download/system/0.0-b/s1.1-f1.1g-e.img.sit.bin" target="_blank">System Disk</a>.

<a href="http://archaic-apples.shauny.de/files/mac/Mac%20System%20Releases%201.0%20-%207.0.1/System%20Tools%200.1/0.1%20System%20Tools.hqx" target="_blank">System Tools</a>

Here is a screen shot of System 1.0:

http://www.nd.edu/~jvanderk/sysone/main.gif

Which was taken from <a href="http://www.nd.edu/~jvanderk/sysone/" target="_blank">this</a> great page about System 1.0.

vMac is a program that was originally written so a PC could emulate system 1.0-7.5.5, and has now been ported to Mac OS. <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" />

A screen shot (of it running under OS 8/9 :mad: ) :

http://emulation.net/macintosh/vmac.gif

<a href="http://www.bannister.org/software/vmac.htm" target="_blank">Here</a> is the page for vMac/MacOS.

I hope this was somewhat helpful.

<img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />

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Proud iBook Owner 2k2
08-07-2002, 10:33 PM
THanx all. :) does anyone know where i can get the images for Systems 2-5? I have 1 and 6 but i wanna re-try out 2-5. I was a little kid when they released.

Barto
08-08-2002, 12:32 AM
Takes Apple 18 years to improve the mouse cursor... LOL!

Mac OS X
08-08-2002, 04:46 AM
There are no Systems 3-5. Apple mysteriously skipped these versions and went directly to 6, sometime in the late-80's, If I am not mistaken.

Also, there was no black-and-white change from the 'System' termation to the 'Mac OS' termation. The 'Mac OS' start-up screen was introduced with System 6 (or some 6.x version) in addition to the original 'Welcome to Macintosh' box. The 'Welcome to Macintosh' box was disposed of in System 7.5, and the 'Mac OS' termation started to come into common use. Although its not accurate to refer to any System before 7 as "Mac OS", one can call any version since "Mac OS" or "System". I myself use 'System' and 'OS' interchangebly.

System 10, Mac OS 10, OS 10, OS X, Mac OS X, System X . . . its all the same! ;)

On a relavent note, I actually do have a question: How does one go about acquiring a ROM file off of a Macintosh 128k for use in vMac on a new iMac? I have an Imation SuperDisk drive, and the floppies are incompatible. I realise the difference in FF's, but I still would think that the Imation drive would at-least be able to recognise the disk in the drive. Is this an issue with the Imation drive specifically, or can it just not be done, or am I just an idiot? I would imagine there is SOME way to do it, or else vMac still wouldnt exist, now would it? Hmm . . . maybe one has to download the ROM image from the Internet . . .

BTW . . . I realise it must be a good 8 months since I last decided to post . . . God knows what enticed me to do so now. Oh well . . . :p Mac OS X works in mysterious ways. ;)

(Edit: I clicked the link offered above for images of old versions of the Mac OS. It claimed it offered versions 3-5. I am 95% sure this is not accurate. I consulted with MacTracker and my dad, and neither of them seem to recall any Systems 3-5. If I (and MacTracker) are wrong, Ill eat another tortilla chip (not sure what MacTracker will do <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
)

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Proud iBook Owner 2k2
08-08-2002, 07:08 AM
[quote] ©1987, 1999-2002 Mac OS X. Statements made are not neccessarily the opinion of God, the Pope, or me, but may necessarily be the opinion of Jesus. No habla español. Statements HAVE been inspected for wholesomness by the U.S. Department of Agriculture. The capital letter 'L' is a registered trademark of a piece of cheese. Most other rights are hopefully reserved by, like, a doughnut or something.
<hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

thats good!!!! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

Anywho... I could have sworn that i saw a screen shot of System 5.5.5 somewhere. I may have been seeing things but i doubt it.

again <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

Brad
08-08-2002, 07:48 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Barto:
<strong>Takes Apple 18 years to improve the mouse cursor... LOL!</strong><hr></blockquote>Actually, I rather see it as Apple got it damn near perfect the first time. :eek:

AugustWest
08-08-2002, 08:25 AM
What a great idea for a post!

I've got an original Mac Plus sitting in storage, but I don't know where my system disks are and the attached hard drive (a whopping 10 megabytes if I recall correctly) is dying or dead.

Does anyone have ANY version of system disks that would work with this computer? I was thinking of setting it up just for the fun of it. :cool:

Proud iBook Owner 2k2
08-09-2002, 11:10 AM
I found an image of System 1 and 6! BOY are they familiar ^_^. I remember sitting on my dads knee and we learned how to "cut, copy and paste". Ahh the memories.

JLL
08-11-2002, 09:07 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Barto:
<strong>Takes Apple 18 years to improve the mouse cursor... LOL!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Only if your computer can handle Quartz Extreme ;)

Fluffy
08-11-2002, 03:00 PM
The early MacOS releases were different then today. The System and Finder both advanced at a different rate, and different System/Finder combinations could be found on different machines. Anyway, <a href="http://www.mackido.com/History/EarlyMacOS.html" target="_blank">click here</a> for a history of the MacOS from System 1.0/Finder 1.0 through System 4.2/Finder 6.0.

Edit: Also, that link provides downloads for all of the early system software releases through System 5.1.

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Mac OS X
08-11-2002, 11:34 PM
Wow, Fluffy, thanks a lot. That clears up things a GREAT DEAL.

Really . . . who would have thought? MacTracker IS failable! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

I didnt know that the System, Finder, and System Software were three DIFFERENT version numbers!

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