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Bergermeister
12-21-2006, 03:30 AM
The Honorble Mr. Goode from Virginia has made very discriminatory remarks against the Quaran and has stood by them. This guy is a load of bull. I hope that lots of Muslims move to his district and make their voice heard.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/12/20/lawmaker.koran/index.html
Thoughts?
AsLan^
12-21-2006, 03:37 AM
He added, "The Ten Commandments and 'In God We Trust' are on the wall in my office. A Muslim student came by the office and asked why I did not have anything on my wall about the Quran.
"My response was clear, 'As long as I have the honor of representing the citizens of the 5th District of Virginia in the United States House of Representatives, the Quran is not going to be on the wall of my office.' "
The student asked him "why". He can't even give a straight answer to a simple question.
Mac on a Mac
12-21-2006, 07:43 AM
Maybe the same reason a Muslim wouldn't have the Bible on his wall?
JupiterOne
12-21-2006, 09:13 AM
Maybe the same reason a Muslim wouldn't have the Bible on his wall?
Yes, that would be an answer (albeit, sarcastic) but was not the one he gave, was it? Like AsLan^ said, he couldn't answer a simple question. Instead he chose to show his bigotry.
thuh Freak
12-21-2006, 10:54 AM
Run the bastard out of town, with pitchforks and torches.
I sometimes wish we were so civilized. An assmunch like this guy deserves tar and feathers.
You all should email Mr. Goode a list of countries you admire, where the Quran is culturally dominate. (Be sure to list the qualities of each country, specifically.)
Chris Cuilla
12-21-2006, 12:09 PM
You all should email Mr. Goode a list of countries you admire, where the Quran is culturally dominate. (Be sure to list the qualities of each country, specifically.)
I wonder if the qualities of those countries include the cultural sentiment that we should "Run the bastard out of town, with pitchforks and torches" or tar and feather someone for their public criticisms of Islam and the Quran?
Heavens, no. We know from experience that Islamic countries are a paragon of tolerance and diversity, the very pinnacle of economic advancement. Everywhere Islam is brought to bear on a culture, it immediately blossoms with rapturous calls for brotherhood and turning the other cheek in the face of a slight.
In fact, I doubt our puny email programs could even handle so large a list -- better make it a 'Top 10.'
JupiterOne
12-21-2006, 12:44 PM
What does any of this have to do with the fact that a congressman made "Islamophobic" remarks regarding a Muslim wanting to be sworn in with his hand on the Quran, instead of a Bible?
Why are you using the inflammatory term "Islamophobic"? If the representative wants to distance himself from an ideology that is a liability to every culture it currently dominates, that seems reasonable.
JupiterOne
12-21-2006, 01:19 PM
Why are you using the inflammatory term "Islamophobic"? If the representative wants to distance himself from an ideology that is a liability to every culture it currently dominates, that seems reasonable.
The term "Islamophobic" was a quote from the article. That's why I put it in quotes.
The representative is making himself look like an ass. Would the representative prefer that a Muslim take the oath of office with his hand on a bible? And what would that say about the seriousness of his oath? What if the guy, instead of a Muslim, was a devout atheist. Would he want him to have his hand placed on a bible still? Again, what would that say about the seriousness in taking the oath? I think if the guy is a Muslim, taking an oath with his hand on the Quran is quite appropriate.
I think you could swear with your hand on your johnson if you wanted, I don't that's an issue. I was referencing the bit about having the Quran on the wall.
(and if I read the rest of the article it might help)
JupiterOne
12-21-2006, 01:27 PM
"The Muslim representative from Minnesota was elected by the voters of that district and if American citizens don't wake up and adopt the Virgil Goode position on immigration there will likely be many more Muslims elected to office and demanding the use of the Quran."
"I fear that in the next century we will have many more Muslims in the United States if we do not adopt the strict immigration policies that I believe are necessary to preserve the values and beliefs traditional to the United States of America and to prevent our resources from being swamped."
Sounds pretty "Something-phobic" to me.
SDW2001
12-21-2006, 01:33 PM
Sounds pretty "Something-phobic" to me.
I agree. That said, my response would have been along the lines of "because I'm not muslim." His other remarks about muslims in general are totally inappropriate.
JupiterOne
12-21-2006, 01:35 PM
I think you could swear with your hand on your johnson if you wanted, I don't that's an issue. I was referencing the bit about having the Quran on the wall.
(and if I read the rest of the article it might help)
You mean this piece...
He added, "The Ten Commandments and 'In God We Trust' are on the wall in my office. A Muslim student came by the office and asked why I did not have anything on my wall about the Quran.
"My response was clear, 'As long as I have the honor of representing the citizens of the 5th District of Virginia in the United States House of Representatives, the Quran is not going to be on the wall of my office.' "
And what does having a bible on the wall have anything to do with "representing the citizens of the 5th District of Virginia in the United States House of Representatives"? A think a better response to the Muslim student's question would have been, "Because I am not a Muslim."
edit: Doh! SDW beat me to it.
Bergermeister
12-22-2006, 04:13 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/12/21/quran.congress/index.html
It gets better.
Ellison announced he is not angry with the comments, but he thinks Goode needs to learn more about Islam, as there are 5 million Muslims in the country, almost 2% of the US population.
Goode refuses to apologize and goes on to announce he noww wants to limit legal immigration. He also wants more people to stand up for what this country (Hicks' Ville?) was founded on. What a loser; he doesn't even know what the country was founded on and how he is violating it.
"I won't be putting my hand on a Quran", he is quoted as saying. Nobody has asked him to, and Ellison isn't making any big to do about Goode using a Bible.
If they can get the representative to resign, I think it would be Goode Ridance.:)
Why are you using the inflammatory term "Islamophobic"? If the representative wants to distance himself from an ideology that is a liability to every culture it currently dominates, that seems reasonable.
Are you seriously defending this guy?
I agree. That said, my response would have been along the lines of "because I'm not muslim." His other remarks about muslims in general are totally inappropriate.
Good to see you aren't batshit crazy like dmz and defending this guy.
SDW2001
12-22-2006, 09:29 AM
Good to see you aren't batshit crazy like dmz and defending this guy.
Yeah, I don't think it's defensible at all. The man's comments also don't make any sense. Ellison is not an illegal, so why the ties to immigration in his letter?
That said, I did hear something interesting this morning. Ellison apparently has ties to CAIR, which has it's own ties to terror supporting groups (The Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development and Global Relief Foundation, both shut down by the US government).
I'm sure Ellison is clean, but at least taking issue with something like that would make some sense. I'd even understand if he called for stopping legal immigration from certain nations...if that proposal made on its own. But his letter? Well, he's obviously a wack-a-doo. He didn't even mention his proposals in the context of stopping terrorists (e.g. stop immigration from states X, Y and Z to prevent terror). He made it seem like stopping muslims was the goal. He's clearly a bigot.
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