segovius
09-17-2007, 06:47 AM
No.
But anyway, here is the background. It is well known that women are banned from driving and going out alone in Saudi Arabia - the country that Bush praised as 'striding towards democracy' (I think it was 4 years ago he said it duh) or some such utter BS - and that they have basically a license to oppress'.
Well, Saudi women have had enough (http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7008521350) and are starting a pressure group.
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia (AHN) - Women in the only country which still forbids them to drive are banding together to demand the right to take the wheel.
The issue has been a hot topic of debate for years in Saudi Arabia, where women as treated as "legal minors under the eternal guardianship of their male family members," according to Human Rights Watch, and forbidden to drive or ride bicycles on public roads.
However, the newly established League of Demanders of Women's Right to Drive Cars plans to change that, beginning with a petition that they will deliver to King Abdallah Bin Abd Al-Aziz Al Saud next week, according to the liberal Arab website Aafaq. The petition will call for their "stolen" entitlement of free movement to be restored, claiming that it was "a right that was enjoyed by our mothers and grandmothers in complete freedom, through the means of transportation available in their day."
"We would like to remind everyone that rights are not given or earned; they are taken, through the various peaceful means available," their announcement reads.
The league is led by Wajeha al-Huwaidar and Fawzia Al-Uyyouni, the wife of imprisoned reformist Ali Al-Domaini.
This last sentence is interesting - basically al-Domaini was imprisoned for urging a move to Democracy - even be accused of 'terrorism or some such nonsense though his movement was entirely peaceful. Support from US for this democratic movement: bugger all.
Anyway, back to the women. For sure the Saudis will move against them. For sure there will be a deafening silence from the US - although they will doubtless continue to sell them arms and torture instruments.
Question: are peaceful means going to work in Saudi when the fascist theocracy is supported by the US?
Answer: no.
Supplementary question: if violent means were justified against 'accepted tyrants' such as Hitler and Saddam in order to free the people then are they not also justified against Saudi?
Answer: yes.
Further Question: if so, then when this happens and the Sauds and US start labeling the pro-democracy movements 'terrorists' and start torturing and/or killing them - then what then?
But anyway, here is the background. It is well known that women are banned from driving and going out alone in Saudi Arabia - the country that Bush praised as 'striding towards democracy' (I think it was 4 years ago he said it duh) or some such utter BS - and that they have basically a license to oppress'.
Well, Saudi women have had enough (http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7008521350) and are starting a pressure group.
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia (AHN) - Women in the only country which still forbids them to drive are banding together to demand the right to take the wheel.
The issue has been a hot topic of debate for years in Saudi Arabia, where women as treated as "legal minors under the eternal guardianship of their male family members," according to Human Rights Watch, and forbidden to drive or ride bicycles on public roads.
However, the newly established League of Demanders of Women's Right to Drive Cars plans to change that, beginning with a petition that they will deliver to King Abdallah Bin Abd Al-Aziz Al Saud next week, according to the liberal Arab website Aafaq. The petition will call for their "stolen" entitlement of free movement to be restored, claiming that it was "a right that was enjoyed by our mothers and grandmothers in complete freedom, through the means of transportation available in their day."
"We would like to remind everyone that rights are not given or earned; they are taken, through the various peaceful means available," their announcement reads.
The league is led by Wajeha al-Huwaidar and Fawzia Al-Uyyouni, the wife of imprisoned reformist Ali Al-Domaini.
This last sentence is interesting - basically al-Domaini was imprisoned for urging a move to Democracy - even be accused of 'terrorism or some such nonsense though his movement was entirely peaceful. Support from US for this democratic movement: bugger all.
Anyway, back to the women. For sure the Saudis will move against them. For sure there will be a deafening silence from the US - although they will doubtless continue to sell them arms and torture instruments.
Question: are peaceful means going to work in Saudi when the fascist theocracy is supported by the US?
Answer: no.
Supplementary question: if violent means were justified against 'accepted tyrants' such as Hitler and Saddam in order to free the people then are they not also justified against Saudi?
Answer: yes.
Further Question: if so, then when this happens and the Sauds and US start labeling the pro-democracy movements 'terrorists' and start torturing and/or killing them - then what then?