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Nebagakid
11-12-2001, 09:47 PM
What are some good ones out there? I use MetamorphX and I am happy changing from aqua everyonce in a while, but there isnt one out there that grabs me and pulls me in and makes me fell the way AQUA does when its smooth liquid.....

But, seriously is there one out there like Neutech?. Remember Neutech? that was a great theme....well go on, REPLY! :mad:

Logan Cale
11-12-2001, 09:54 PM
I use Godiva, but what I really want is one with no brushed metal and a graphite Apple logo, but the Aqua buttons. That I would use.

But I like Aqua too. I switch 'em around every once and a while.

Fran441
11-12-2001, 10:04 PM
Are there any Platinum themes available?

Maya
11-12-2001, 11:50 PM
I miss starfleetX's 10.0.4 theme. :(

bradbower
11-13-2001, 01:35 AM
I wish there were a key lime variation of Aqua in a 10.1 theme format. Stupid Apple, damn you to hell for changing the theme format!

I currently use a combination of Godiva and Pomegranite (though I wish I could get the red scrollbars from Pomegranite into Godiva somehow).

Trekkie
11-13-2001, 02:35 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Maya:
<strong>I miss starfleetX's 10.0.4 theme. :( </strong><hr></blockquote>

Don't worry, Starfleet resumed his work on the Iridium theme. :cool:

Sinewave
11-13-2001, 03:37 AM
There is the Sosumi theme I made go here to read about it.

<a href="http://dual.macnn.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=46&t=000967" target="_blank">http://dual.macnn.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=46&t=000967</a>

Sinewave
11-13-2001, 04:01 AM
Here is a screenshot I just took.

<a href="http://sinewave.wirefire.com/forums/sosumi1112.png" target="_blank">http://sinewave.wirefire.com/forums/sosumi1112.png</a>

Nebagakid
11-13-2001, 06:25 AM
Is it possible to use that one with MetamorphX. I hate having to go into Root and do all that trouble, unnessesarcy I say

Mediaman
11-13-2001, 06:37 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Nebagakid:
<strong>Is it possible to use that one with MetamorphX. I hate having to go into Root and do all that trouble, unnessesarcy I say</strong><hr></blockquote>
Sinewave does not like MMX (MetamorphX) as it can make mistakes switching back to Aqua, But you can use 'Theme Packer' (downloads allong with MMX) to make it into one, as I have done (don't distro the .theme you create though).

As I am currently part way through creating a theme (inspired by a silver XP theme, go on boo if you want) i wonder if anyone has started any refrance to the extras.rsrc? I.e. what exact wiget is 'Arrow Button Caps Inactive/Disabled'? All you have to go on is the shape of the 'Aquay blobs' in Sprocket.

D
11-13-2001, 08:41 AM
Can I see a screenshot of Godiva, or any other themes y'all would like to share?

Is there a good brushed metal theme for 10.1? I'm a sucker for that damned brushed metal.

Sinewave
11-13-2001, 09:35 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Mediaman:
<strong>
Sinewave does not like MMX (MetamorphX) as it can make mistakes switching back to Aqua, But you can use 'Theme Packer' (downloads allong with MMX) to make it into one, as I have done (don't distro the .theme you create though).</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually I am testing out MMX again to see what the bugs are.
<strong> [quote]
As I am currently part way through creating a theme (inspired by a silver XP theme, go on boo if you want) i wonder if anyone has started any refrance to the extras.rsrc? I.e. what exact wiget is 'Arrow Button Caps Inactive/Disabled'? All you have to go on is the shape of the 'Aquay blobs' in Sprocket.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think the silver XP theme rocks no booing here.
arrow button caps? What exactly are you looking for?

Mediaman
11-13-2001, 11:08 AM
Sinewave.
It's just a genral question. You open up the Extras.rsrc in Sprocket and there are 100's (possibly 1000's) of graphic files most with criptic names, and all the refrence to what each thing is, is Apples 'Aquay Blobs'.
What would be nice is somthing to tell you what each thing is in the final OS (it would be a masive undertaking though).

gordy
11-13-2001, 11:49 AM
I'm using Godiva too. The coolest thing is that every Theme I've used in OS X is much faster than Aqua.

Godiva also removes the transparent menus, another speed boost.

Couple that theme with WindowShade X, and OS X is almost perfect. I just need scheduled wakeup and sleep to return to the Mac OS.

Sinewave
11-13-2001, 12:42 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Mediaman:
<strong>Sinewave.
It's just a genral question. You open up the Extras.rsrc in Sprocket and there are 100's (possibly 1000's) of graphic files most with criptic names, and all the refrence to what each thing is, is Apples 'Aquay Blobs'.
What would be nice is somthing to tell you what each thing is in the final OS (it would be a masive undertaking though).</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yeah I know.. if you give me the name of the resource and ID # I can probably tell you what it is.

Sinewave
11-13-2001, 12:44 PM
[quote]Originally posted by gordy:
<strong>I'm using Godiva too. The coolest thing is that every Theme I've used in OS X is much faster than Aqua.

Godiva also removes the transparent menus, another speed boost.

Couple that theme with WindowShade X, and OS X is almost perfect. I just need scheduled wakeup and sleep to return to the Mac OS.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I better way to make the menu's speedier is to make the resource bigger. It takes up less time drawing. I like the transparent menus.. but I speeded them up by making them bigger.

Logan Cale
11-13-2001, 12:45 PM
[quote]Originally posted by gordy:
<strong>I just need scheduled wakeup and sleep to return to the Mac OS.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I just need that so I can make my daily news getting AppleScript work like it should. There should also be a Wakeup Items thing.

But that has nothing to do with this thread. I'm off to suggest it to Apple. :)

Mediaman
11-13-2001, 06:35 PM
Does anyone know of a good 'Theme Preview' app. other than the 'Appearance Sample' that comes on the 10.1 devtools disk. It try's to be cool, but it's just a big awkward mess & The preview it creates is to large to be any use. Sinewave, what did you use to create the previews of Sosumi theme that you used on the MacNN thread? As they where perfect.

Sinewave
11-13-2001, 07:22 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Mediaman:
<strong>Does anyone know of a good 'Theme Preview' app. other than the 'Appearance Sample' that comes on the 10.1 devtools disk. It try's to be cool, but it's just a big awkward mess & The preview it creates is to large to be any use. Sinewave, what did you use to create the previews of Sosumi theme that you used on the MacNN thread? As they where perfect.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Theme Checker 3X

<a href="http://www.geocities.com/doghouse_online/checkerx.html" target="_blank">http://www.geocities.com/doghouse_online/checkerx.html</a>

nonhuman
11-13-2001, 08:32 PM
[quote]Originally posted by D:
<strong>Can I see a screenshot of Godiva, or any other themes y'all would like to share?

Is there a good brushed metal theme for 10.1? I'm a sucker for that damned brushed metal.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I second both of these. Emphatically.

Sinewave
11-13-2001, 08:46 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Trekkie:
<strong>

Don't worry, Starfleet resumed his work on the Iridium theme. :cool: </strong><hr></blockquote>

That's good to hear. It was one of the few I have seen other than Sosumi that I would actually use.

Trekkie
11-13-2001, 08:56 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Sinewave:
<strong>

That's good to hear. It was one of the few I have seen other than Sosumi that I would actually use.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I concur. It was the first X theme that I really had to have. Liked it so much that I host it for him on my server. Remember all those iDisk problems he was having long ago?

Sinewave
11-13-2001, 09:27 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Trekkie:
<strong>

I concur. It was the first X theme that I really had to have. Liked it so much that I host it for him on my server. Remember all those iDisk problems he was having long ago?</strong><hr></blockquote>

No.. I didn't get to see it till well after he started it.

Brad
11-14-2001, 12:17 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Maya:
<strong>I miss starfleetX's 10.0.4 theme.</strong><hr></blockquote> [quote]Originally posted by Trekkie:
<strong>Don't worry, Starfleet resumed his work on the Iridium theme. :cool: </strong><hr></blockquote>
Indeed I am right now! How'd you know? :confused:

Expect there to be minor bugs with mine, though, because Apple still hasn't fixed the widget problems I've noted before.

Sinewave
11-14-2001, 01:19 AM
star yeah the widget problem... the scroll thumb problem.. the problem with iTunes not using double scroll....

Apple wants 3rd party apps to be consistent. But why should they when Apple isn't? <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[Are you kidding?]" />

Trekkie
11-14-2001, 01:27 AM
[quote]Originally posted by starfleetX:
<strong>
Indeed I am right now! How'd you know? :confused:

Expect there to be minor bugs with mine, though, because Apple still hasn't fixed the widget problems I've noted before.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ugh, hello? Guy who's hosting your theme for you. Remember me? Besides, you said so yourself a few days ago over on the MacNN forums. And I don't mind the glitches, just get Iridium 1.1 out the door! <img src="graemlins/biggthumpup.gif" border="0" alt="[Thumbs Up]" />

Sinewave
11-14-2001, 01:38 AM
I am thinking about doing another theme other than Sosumi here soon. It might be a rounded off theme. I have some ideas.

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Mediaman
11-14-2001, 03:26 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Sinewave:
<strong>

Theme Checker 3X

<a href="http://www.geocities.com/doghouse_online/checkerx.html" target="_blank">http://www.geocities.com/doghouse_online/checkerx.html</a></strong><hr></blockquote>

cool!

<a href="http://www.mediachrome.co.uk/staging/temp/theme1.png" target="_blank">here</a> is a preview of my XP Silver inspired theme (16K image linked instead of inline to save ruining the thread layout). If you look at the image you can see a few problems I am having with it. Maybe someone can help?
1. The 'Disabled Tab' it's not like that in Sprocket, why has it gone black? And what's with the yellow line?
2. If you look at the inactive maximise icon it also has black bit's in it?
3. I can't seam to find the resorce for the fill behind the 'Tabs' does anyone know which it is?
p.s The Popup menu ('Everest') is still in 'Sosumi' this will be changed.

Sinewave
11-14-2001, 03:56 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Mediaman:
<strong>

cool!

<a href="http://www.mediachrome.co.uk/staging/temp/theme1.png" target="_blank">here</a> is a preview of my XP Silver inspired theme (16K image linked instead of inline to save ruining the thread layout). If you look at the image you can see a few problems I am having with it. Maybe someone can help?
1. The 'Disabled Tab' it's not like that in Sprocket, why has it gone black? And what's with the yellow line?
</strong><hr></blockquote>
You don't have the Alpha mask set right. A easy way to do Alpha masks is to us a app called Premultiplier. It lets you take your image.. the mask and it will automatically give you the outcome. You can get it here

<a href="http://www.wpi.edu/~phoenix/software.html" target="_blank">http://www.wpi.edu/~phoenix/software.html</a>
<strong> [quote]
2. If you look at the inactive maximise icon it also has black bit's in it?
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Same reason.. it's the masks.
<strong> [quote]
3. I can't seam to find the resorce for the fill behind the 'Tabs' does anyone know which it is?
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Not sure what your meaning.
<strong> [quote]
p.s The Popup menu ('Everest') is still in 'Sosumi' this will be changed.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You I noticed you used my theme as a template and I don't mind at all. I also noticed you used my radio button. And I don't mind. I hate ugly radio buttons. ;)

Your XP theme looks really sweet.

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Mediaman
11-14-2001, 05:23 PM
New Theme.
http://www.desktopper.net/_xenogenesis.png
<a href="http://www.desktopper.net/xenogenesis110.bin" target="_blank">xenogenesis v1.1.0</a> <a href="http://www.desktopper.net/xenogenesis112update.dmg.gz" target="_blank">xenogenesis1.1.2 update</a>
from <a href="http://www.desktopper.net/" target="_blank">www.desktopper.net</a>
It's a bit flat but the people calling for a 'Plain' theme should be happy

[ 11-14-2001: Message edited by: Mediaman ]</p>

Sinewave
11-14-2001, 05:39 PM
That looks horrible IMHO. I saw it earlier.

Logan Cale
11-14-2001, 05:54 PM
Yeah, really horrible. I just tried it and now I can't get back to Aqua or Godiva. :(

How do I switch back manually? I have the files, but MMX won't switch them correctly.

I think I won't use themes anymore until it works much, much better. This sucks, I'm stuck with the worst possible theme for OS X. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />

[EDIT: And to top it off, my iBook hard drive won't even mount now. :rolleyes: ]

[ 11-14-2001: Message edited by: MacAgent ]</p>

groverat
11-14-2001, 06:18 PM
Sweet Jesus!

Why in God's name would you try and mimick the ugliest of the XP themes??

Blue and Olive are far more attractive than icky Silver. It looks like a bad Kaliedoscope theme!

Sinewave
11-14-2001, 07:19 PM
[quote]Originally posted by groverat:
<strong>Sweet Jesus!

Why in God's name would you try and mimick the ugliest of the XP themes??

Blue and Olive are far more attractive than icky Silver. It looks like a bad Kaliedoscope theme!</strong><hr></blockquote>

I always thought the silver one looked better than the Blue.

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Trekkie
11-14-2001, 10:20 PM
In my opinion the ugliest X theme so far is that Titanium one. Just wreaks of a 2 bit Classic scheme. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />

Sinewave
11-15-2001, 12:33 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Trekkie:
<strong>In my opinion the ugliest X theme so far is that Titanium one. Just wreaks of a 2 bit Classic scheme. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Maybe that is why I like it :)

Brad
11-15-2001, 12:49 AM
[quote]Just wreaks of a 2 bit Classic scheme.<hr></blockquote>
"wreaks" eh? you mean it wreaks havoc? is that the new "opens a can of whoopass"? :D :D :D

Anyway, FYI, I upped a <a href="http://homepage.mac.com/starfleet/.Movies/WidgetBugCarbon001.mov" target="_blank">tiny, little 32 kilobyte movie</a> to my iDisk showing off another annoying flaw in the HIToolbox. If you don't know what the movie is showing, it's that in Carbon apps, when you mouseover the window widgts, they appear to fall back to the "disabled" state. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />

Sinewave
11-15-2001, 04:43 AM
It doesn't do that in sosumi.. but I might have things set up differently to my mousovers. But yeah it's another lame "feature"

crazyjohnson
11-15-2001, 01:50 PM
What we need is a NeXTStep theme. I know people were working on one before - most of them stopped, and most of them gave up after 10.1 came out.

The PB had many NeXT UI elements left in its guts, so it should be simple to make one. It also should be easy with that 'plain' theme shown above.

Sinewave
11-15-2001, 09:13 PM
Get Sprocket and start doing it yourself :)

Synotic
11-15-2001, 09:18 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Sinewave:
<strong>Get Sprocket and start doing it yourself :) </strong><hr></blockquote>But it is sooo hard :mad:

Sinewave
11-15-2001, 09:32 PM
Making a NeXT theme is too hard?

Brad
11-16-2001, 12:43 AM
[quote]Originally posted by Sinewave:
<strong>It doesn't do that in sosumi.. but I might have things set up differently to my mousovers. But yeah it's another lame "feature"</strong><hr></blockquote>
In Sosumi, do your background and disabled widgets look the same? This only occurs in Carbon apps (10.1.1). I think it's just more noticeable in Iridium because the background widgets have a hint of color whereas the disabled ones are greyscale.

Nice sig, btw, :D but exactly WTF does it mean? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />

Sinewave
11-16-2001, 02:20 AM
[quote]Originally posted by starfleetX:
<strong>
In Sosumi, do your background and disabled widgets look the same? This only occurs in Carbon apps (10.1.1).I think it's just more noticeable in Iridium because the background widgets have a hint of color whereas the disabled ones are greyscale.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

Here is what they look like
Disabled
http://sinewave.wirefire.com/forbutton.png

Background

http://sinewave.wirefire.com/backbutton.png

So yeah I think so.
<strong> [quote]
Nice sig, btw, :D but exactly WTF does it mean? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

If you have ever been bite by radio active breasts.. you'd know.

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Brad
11-18-2001, 09:50 PM
NOOOO!!!!! Cocoa apps don't recognize the clr# resource!! :mad:

Well, looks like I'll be taking Iridium back to the drawing board... <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />

Sinewave
11-18-2001, 10:27 PM
Here is a idea I am throwing up in the air.. I like it.. but I also like the old way too. I am up in arms about it. What do you think?

<a href="http://sinewave.wirefire.com/forums/newbuttons.mov" target="_blank">http://sinewave.wirefire.com/forums/newbuttons.mov</a> (It's just 40k)

Mac Guru
11-18-2001, 10:37 PM
could someone post links to all the apps and tools needed to make a theme for X? I've been wanting to start but I don't have all the tools.

Thanks
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Mac The Fork
11-18-2001, 10:45 PM
Sinewave: I like the old way better.

Sinewave
11-18-2001, 11:15 PM
I just modified it.. made it less bold looking. I am starting to like this version a lot. I made a movie. same url as last movie. It is a different file now.

Mac The Fork
11-18-2001, 11:25 PM
I just think people should be able to see what the controls do before a mouseover... It doesn't really matter though, since everybody who uses your theme knows what the buttons do already. I wonder how much Apple paid for the theme that is getting its ass kicked by your free replacement.

Sinewave
11-18-2001, 11:33 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Mac The Fork:
<strong>I just think people should be able to see what the controls do before a mouseover... It doesn't really matter though, since everybody who uses your theme knows what the buttons do already. I wonder how much Apple paid for the theme that is getting its ass kicked by your free replacement.</strong><hr></blockquote>

It looks cleaner.. I'm starting to really enjoy it. More people are using Aqua than using my theme.. so I doubt Aqua is getting it's ass kicked.

Mac The Fork
11-18-2001, 11:42 PM
[quote]More people are using Aqua than using my theme.. so I doubt Aqua is getting it's ass kicked.<hr></blockquote>

In terms of quality, for Christ's sake. :rolleyes: :)

Brad
11-19-2001, 12:52 AM
Sinewave, do you have any remedy for the problem I mentioned above? Are the text colors in Extras really ignored by Cocoa apps altogether? If so, that means I'm going to have to scrap some parts of Iridium in favor of colors that black text will better show up on. That's something I really was hoping I wouldn't have to do.

Sinewave
11-19-2001, 01:29 AM
[quote]Originally posted by starfleetX:
<strong>Sinewave, do you have any remedy for the problem I mentioned above? Are the text colors in Extras really ignored by Cocoa apps altogether? If so, that means I'm going to have to scrap some parts of Iridium in favor of colors that black text will better show up on. That's something I really was hoping I wouldn't have to do.</strong><hr></blockquote>


I am not sure as I haven't mess with text colors.

<img src="confused.gif" border="0">

Synotic
11-20-2001, 12:08 AM
SFX, you are editing the colors with Theminator right? Whenever I edit text colors all apps are affected...

crazyjohnson
11-20-2001, 03:24 PM
Hey Synotic, what ever happened to your NeXT theme? Did you ever start or finish it?

Synotic
11-20-2001, 11:57 PM
[quote]Originally posted by crazyjohnson:
<strong>Hey Synotic, what ever happened to your NeXT theme? Did you ever start or finish it?</strong><hr></blockquote>Well I did the widgets and that's it <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />

bradbower
11-21-2001, 12:56 AM
I'm not so sure Aqua is getting it's ass kicked by Sinewave's theme... I don't think either is better than the other, and popularity holds no water because millions of Aqua users have no idea you can 'theme' OS X at all. The only thing that Aqua has on Sinewave's creation is that it is original, whereas Platinum was not Sinewave's idea or anything. Both are very beautiful, one is just brighter and more visually stimulating, and not everyone wants that. I wonder which of the two took more effort to make, even though there's no way to know, really.

Sinewave
11-21-2001, 02:11 AM
[quote]Originally posted by bradbower:
<strong>I'm not so sure Aqua is getting it's ass kicked by Sinewave's theme... I don't think either is better than the other, and popularity holds no water because millions of Aqua users have no idea you can 'theme' OS X at all. The only thing that Aqua has on Sinewave's creation is that it is original, whereas Platinum was not Sinewave's idea or anything. Both are very beautiful, one is just brighter and more visually stimulating, and not everyone wants that. I wonder which of the two took more effort to make, even though there's no way to know, really.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I am not sure what took more effort. While I am sure Aqua was probably in the making for a year or more... having to fit a GUI idea into Aqua's layout can be a problem. Something the people making Aqua didn't have to deal with.

Mac The Fork
11-21-2001, 04:02 PM
[quote]I'm not so sure Aqua is getting it's ass kicked by Sinewave's theme...<hr></blockquote>

I was just trying to pay a compliment to his work, but my compliment is apparently debatable. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> Never mind then.

Sinewave
11-21-2001, 04:05 PM
Sosumi B7 will probably be out in a day or so btw.

fox congo
11-23-2001, 05:00 AM
i would want a different mouse busy animation - better: being able to convert animation into the correct site. i could do some toothed wheel-animation with lightwave or a clockwise ratating ring that works like a watch hand and looks a bit like a radar screen.. in transparent blue (or any clour) and rotating around the standard mouse pointer

Sinewave
11-23-2001, 11:29 AM
[quote]Originally posted by fox congo:
<strong>i would want a different mouse busy animation - better: being able to convert animation into the correct site. i could do some toothed wheel-animation with lightwave or a clockwise ratating ring that works like a watch hand and looks a bit like a radar screen.. in transparent blue (or any clour) and rotating around the standard mouse pointer</strong><hr></blockquote>

I have yet to find where these are kept. I am betting it is hard coded. It probably wont be able to be changed unless some programming is involved.

Mediaman
11-23-2001, 06:00 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Sinewave:
<strong>

I have yet to find where these are kept. I am betting it is hard coded. It probably wont be able to be changed unless some programming is involved.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Bet it's real deep to. As it's the first thing you see when X boots.