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SpamSandwich

04-07-2008, 04:05 PM

audiopollution

04-07-2008, 04:18 PM

Wikileaks is also hosting a mass of Scientology documents that have the CoS in a frenzy. Apparently there are thousands more that will be released this week.

I <3 Wikileaks.

Outsider

04-07-2008, 05:09 PM

More power to them.

mydo

04-07-2008, 08:01 PM

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Wikileaks continues to perform real muckraking journalism

This is not "muckraking journalism". Muckraking is when a journalist exposes some tardy scandal.

tonton

04-07-2008, 08:31 PM

This is not "muckraking journalism". Muckraking is when a journalist exposes some tardy scandal.

A tardy scandal? Is that like a scandal that had an appointment to be revealed but overslept? :lol:

I think you meant "tawdry".

sammi jo

04-07-2008, 08:36 PM

WARNING: The contents of the Wikileaks web site described contains extremely graphic images from the recent crackdown in Tibet. Viewer discretion is advised.

Wikileaks continues to perform real muckraking journalism as they release images and video stemming from the ongoing political unrest in Tibet. Why does the American press continue to ignore the direness of this situation?

Who owns the greater part of the US mainstream media? A half dozen or so very large conglomerates, with far wider-reaching interests than merely media. A fly on the wall in the boardrooms of these corporations presumably has more idea than we do as to why criticism of China has become virtually taboo in the US mainstream. The truth is in there.

mydo

04-07-2008, 10:01 PM

A tardy scandal? Is that like a scandal that had an appointment to be revealed but overslept? :lol:

I think you meant "tawdry".

Yes of course. Anything to contribute that used more than two brain cells? I didn't think so.

audiopollution

04-07-2008, 10:05 PM

Yes of course. Anything to contribute that used more than two brain cells? I didn't think so.

If the two of you are just going to pick apart grammar/spelling, stop.

SpamSandwich

04-08-2008, 01:25 AM

If the two of you are just going to pick apart grammar/spelling, stop.

Agree. That's getting tired and petty, in light of this subject.

vinea

04-08-2008, 08:38 AM

I looking at the page of photos but as horrific as any one death is, there's no evidence of the hundreds of deaths claimed by some sources. The photos seem to be repeated images of the same persons.

I read some of the analysis of "leaks" and I gotta say there's a significant bias that you can't trust it any more than mainstream media or official PRC news.

Have the chinese killed protesters and rioters? Yes, that's beyond dispute. Are they cracking down on seperatists? Surely.

Is it worth a boycott of Beijing Olympics? No. To a certain extent the Chinese are right. They might politicize the games from the perspective of PR but all host countries do that. But the tit-for-tat 1980 and 1984 boycotts by the US then Russia were rather pointless and didn't serve to change anything but sully the games themselves and hurt atheletes.

The Chinese aren't going to modify their behavior because of an Olympic boycott. They WILL be pissed enough to retaliate for decades and in some ways their position is far stronger than the Soviets.

If you are upset, don't go to the olympics and don't watch. Send money to the Tibetans. Heck, go protest in front fo the Chinese embassy.

Marvin

04-08-2008, 05:03 PM

:lol:

"global defense of sources and press freedoms, circa now—"

On the Youtube video:
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Jubelum

04-10-2008, 05:09 AM

vinea

04-10-2008, 08:34 AM

ChiCom Paramilitaries in the US? (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3131841)

Hmmmm... "guarding (http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/080408/w040863A.html)" the torch?

Heh, given that the soviets are gone, I wonder if its still necessary to distiguish chinese communists from...well...practically no one else. :)

I doubt they are armed and they aren't likely allowed in India. That should be highly amusing to watch. On one hand I feel bad for the Chinese. On the other, it was their own stupid policies that brought this on them.

I suspect a lot of Europeans and Chinese feel the same way about us and Iraq.

ApeironDecay

04-10-2008, 11:54 AM

Heh, given that the soviets are gone, I wonder if its still necessary to distiguish chinese communists from...well...practically no one else. :)

I doubt they are armed and they aren't likely allowed in India. That should be highly amusing to watch. On one hand I feel bad for the Chinese. On the other, it was their own stupid policies that brought this on them.

I suspect a lot of Europeans and Chinese feel the same way about us and Iraq.
Highly amusing to watch, eh? What a great attitude...isn't civil unrest and gratuitous violence exciting?

vinea

04-10-2008, 03:14 PM

Highly amusing to watch, eh? What a great attitude...isn't civil unrest and gratuitous violence exciting?

Poor reading comprehension a forte?

Yes, it will be highly amusing to watch how much the Indians REALLY care that the Chinese get embarassed on their torch relay. Of course, they prefer it not to happen on their watch and they likely will decide that making Beijing happy here is in their best interests since the Indian army isn't up to snuff to keep the Chinese out of Bhutan.

Most likely the Chinese are dithering between not wanting to cancel and deep concerns that India is going to be a complete cluster with 100,000 Tibetans and an already stressed relationship with India.

India promsies tight security for the torch but they manage to let folks scale the walls of the Chinese embassy? Mkay. Although I read a recent article that says that the Chinese security team is going to be the inner security perimeter. So I guess they changed their mind or I misread the earlier article.