McCain = 4 more years of G-Dubya?

[O-Mac]

All this talk about john McCain being four more years of the GW Bush Administration.

Is it true? If McCain wins this election will it be the same old republican stuff?

Could an Obama/Biden administration do any worse than what the George W Bush administration has done over the last 8 years?

Instead of some obvious biased Republican or Democrat opinions let's hear some real answers here.

[@_@ Artman]

Forget the politicians, they're irrelevant. The politicians are put there to give you the idea you have freedom of choice - you don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own, and control the corporations. They've long since bought, and payed for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets, and they own all the big media, so they control just about all the information you get. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying - lobbying, to get what they want.

...

The table has tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good honest hard working people: white collar, blue collar it doesn't matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard working people continue (these are people of modest being) - continue to elect these rich douchebags who don't give a fuck about you. They don't give a fuck about you - they don't give a fuck about you. They don't care about you at all - at all - at all, and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care.

That's what the owners counted on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white, and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth. It's called the American Dream cause you have to be asleep to believe it.
-- George Carlin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u6lCBnRoHQ)

[sammi jo]

-- George Carlin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u6lCBnRoHQ)

And the owners of the big red, white and blue (dick) do whatever they want, knowing that they will always get away with it.

(a) Because they can, and (b) because we willingly let them.

[@_@ Artman]

Thanks to the masses of non-critical thinking American brainwashed sheep the mass media has immense power in determining who becomes candidates for any political office and who the eventual winner is.

Broadcast media appears to wield the most influence followed by print media. (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/25/8226/58437/50/574549)

But, whoever wins makes little difference. Politicians are mainly figureheads for the country's power brokers....those with the wealth that will ensure departing politicos receive millions of dollars in speaking fees and positions in corporate America wherein a year's pay is equal or exceeds what you and I can't earn in a life-time of employment.

[@_@ Artman]

Why do you suppose this is?

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g255/artman46/mccain.jpg

Oh, I thought you said who...why?

http://www.connietalk.com/faux_news.jpg

Yes and, despite this, oddly enough many people want to give government even more power!

Sorry, could you cite that? Because all I could find was this...

Very Large Majorities Of Americans Believe Big Companies, PACs, Political Lobbyists and the News Media Have Too Much Power and Influence in D.C. (http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=880)

When one thinks of Washington D.C. and the power corridors, smoke filled rooms and shady deals with lobbyists may come to mind. There are certain groups in particular which are singled out by large majorities of the American public as having too much power in those corridors. Leading the list are big companies, as 86 percent of Americans say they have too much power and influence in Washington. These are followed by Political Action Committees (PACs), which give money to political candidates; 83 percent of Americans cite them as having too much power and influence.

Four in five Americans (80%) say political lobbyists have too much power, while almost three-quarters (74%) say the same about the news media. Rounding out the top five are entertainment and sports celebrities, as over two-thirds (69%) of Americans believe they have too much power and influence in D.C. This is actually the first time celebrities have been included on this list and they start off right in the top five to being too powerful in Washington.

Looking at this from the other side of the spectrum, 90 percent of Americans believe that small business has too little power and influence in Washington. Large majorities also believe public opinion (74%) and nonprofit organizations (65%) have too little power and influence.

These are some of the results of a Harris Poll of 1,010 adults surveyed by telephone between February 5 and 11, 2008 by Harris Interactive®.

Who Else Has Power and Influence?

In addition to PACs and big companies, there are three other institutions which majorities of the public believe have too much power – TV and radio talk shows (57%), trade associations (57%) and labor unions (51%). Looking at the reverse side of the issue, just over half of the public believes racial minorities (51%) and churches and religious groups (52%) all have too little power and influence in Washington. Interestingly, the public seems to be split on one policy influencer: opinion polls. Maybe people are just overwhelmed with the number of opinion polls in this election year, but 46 percent say they have too little power and influence while 44 percent say they have too much.

So, amazingly there are "sheeple" out there who realize this manipulation by power broking lobbyists and biased news medias.

Wake up sheeple! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D74Xs1VuYAE) :lol:

[jimmac]

McCain would be much worse. He's a warmonger for one. He tries to distance himself from Bush but follows his pattern pretty close.

Let's spend 100 years in Iraq if necessary.:rolleyes:

Anyone who thinks offshore drilling is going to change anything at the pump is nuts. By the time could even begin to have any effect we'll have forgotten why we went that route in the first place.

All he's good for is telling us what small things he can find wrong with Obama.

However I don't think he stands much of a chance getting elected.


Thank god!

[@_@ Artman]

Why have you linked the phrase "wake up sheeple" with a laughing emoticon to a video of people physically accosting a TV cameraman?

He was a Fox News cameraman.

[@_@ Artman]

I was hoping for a serious response, but I guess not.
So your answer for why there are "masses of non-critical thinking American brainwashed sheep" is Fox News? Are you sure you can't do better than that? Do you have any thoughts as to why we might have "masses of non-critical thinking American brainwashed sheep"?Now, assuming that your answer is serious and sincere:
Why do you think that Fox News is the reason we have "masses of non-critical thinking American brainwashed sheep"?I'm asking a serious question.

Compete Carlin quote...

That's the big answer to everything, education. They say we need more money for books, more teachers, more classrooms, more schools, and more testing for the kids, and they'll say, well we tried all of that, and the kids still can't pass the tests. Don't worry about that, because we're going to lower the passing grades, and that's what they do in a lot of these schools. They lower the passing grades so more kids can pass - more kids pass, the school looks good, and the IQ of the country slips another 2 or 3 points. And pretty soon all you'll need to get into college is a pencil. Got a pencil? Then get in there, it's physics!

Then people wonder why 17 other countries graduate more scientist than we do. Education - politicians use that word, they use it on you. Politicians have traditionally hidden behind 3 things: the flag, the bible, and children - no child left behind, no child left behind. Oh, really it wasn't too long ago you were talking about giving children a head start. Head start - left behind, someone's losing ground here, but there's a reason. There's a reason for this. There's a reason education sucks, and it's the same reason it'll never ever be fixed - it's never going to get any better, don't look for it, be happy with what you got, because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now. The wealthy big business interests that controls things, and makes all the important decisions.

Forget the politicians, they're irrelevant. The politicians are put there to give you the idea you have freedom of choice - you don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own, and control the corporations. They've long since bought, and payed for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets, and they own all the big media, so they control just about all the information you get. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying - lobbying, to get what they want.

Well we know what they want. They want more for themselves, and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don't want - they don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don't want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They're not interested in that - that doesn't help them. That's against their interests. That's right. They don't want people that are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table, and think about how badly they're getting screwed by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago. They don't want that. You know what they want? Obedient workers - Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines, and do that paper work. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime, and vanishing pension that disappear the minute you go to collect it, and now they're coming for your social security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They'll get it - they'll get it all from you sooner or later cause they own this place. It's a big club, and you ain't in it. You, and I are not in The Big Club.

By the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think, and what to buy.

The table has tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good honest hard working people: white collar, blue collar it doesn't matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard working people continue (these are people of modest being) - continue to elect these rich douchebags who don't give a fuck about you. They don't give a fuck about you - they don't give a fuck about you. They don't care about you at all - at all - at all, and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care.

That's what the owners counted on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white, and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth. It's called the American Dream cause you have to be asleep to believe it.

There. :smokey:

[@_@ Artman]

I realize that.

So?
Who are the "sheeple"?
Are they the people in video accosting him?
Why should they "wake up"?
Is physically attacking another person what the "sheeple" should do?
Why the laughing icon?
Do you find it funny when people threaten physical harm to others?
Are physical threats fine as long as they are against someone you don't like or disagree with?
Do these people hate Fox News and the cameraman?

Stop baiting me troll.

[@_@ Artman]

Before I waste my time with Carlin, does that statement reflect your personal answer and view to my question? I was asking for your opinion, not George Carlin's.

Yep. My opinion too. I remember watching that HBO show and literally screamed my agreement. He was a brilliant man.

Originally Posted by sslarson View Post
I realize that.

So?
Who are the "sheeple"?
Are they the people in video accosting him?
Why should they "wake up"?
Is physically attacking another person what the "sheeple" should do?
Why the laughing icon?
Do you find it funny when people threaten physical harm to others?
Are physical threats fine as long as they are against someone you don't like or disagree with?
Do these people hate Fox News and the cameraman?

I'm at work right now, and even though I have a penchant for finding and/or responding to these kinds of idiotic questions...another time though.

Unless someone else will "educate" sslarson...:rolleyes:

[@_@ Artman]

That's twice now.
:err:
You post a link and you're expecting someone else around here to answer for it?!?!
Utterly amazing.

What can I say? You have to get out more sslarson. It'll do ya good. Have a nice day. :)

[screener]

I get out plenty, TYVM. You should refrain from posting things you're unwilling to answer for. Have a nice day. :)
Now you dunnit, you got artman banned.

[Frank777]

McCain would be much worse. He's a warmonger for one. He tries to distance himself from Bush but follows his pattern pretty close.

While this is straight from the Democratic talking points, it fails a real life test.

McCain has a long record in the senate, and whole lot of it absolutely contradicts the Bush playbook.

While it's true he's discovered that you can't get elected as a Republican post 9-11 without embracing Bush's silly "War on Terror" mantra, I've seen no solid evidence that the neo-cons have been embraced by McCain or that he's likely to start wars. Bush, was personally threatened/motivated by Saddam's attack on his parents. And he had clear links to oil interests.

McCain is also well known as a staunch critic or the Religious Right and, it has been joked, reached out more to Democrats in the Senate than Republicans.

Unless someone wants to contend that McCain will nuke Vietnam, I haven't seen any evidence he has it 'in' for anybody.

[jimmac]

While this is straight from the Democratic talking points, it fails a real life test.

McCain has a long record in the senate, and whole lot of it absolutely contradicts the Bush playbook.

While it's true he's discovered that you can't get elected as a Republican post 9-11 without embracing Bush's silly "War on Terror" mantra, I've seen no solid evidence that the neo-cons have been embraced by McCain or that he's likely to start wars. Bush, was personally threatened/motivated by Saddam's attack on his parents. And he had clear links to oil interests.

McCain is also well known as a staunch critic or the Religious Right and, it has been joked, reached out more to Democrats in the Senate than Republicans.

Unless someone wants to contend that McCain will nuke Vietnam, I haven't seen any evidence he has it 'in' for anybody.

All you have to do is read what he thinks about Iraq.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKg1xdGJtPw


http://outtheotherear.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/mccain-will-make-cheney-look-like-gandhi/

Warmonger. Proving otherwise will be a hard row to hoe.


;)