Broadway Apple Store flyover; Washington walk-out averted

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
Aerial footage shows off a special roof on the upcoming Apple Store at 67th and Broadway; and a potential employee walk-out at a Washington Apple Store has reportedly been resolved.



Broadway Apple Store will have unique roof



ifoAppleStore has aerial footage of the upcoming Apple Store at 1982 Broadway on the northwest corner of West 67th Street. The pictures and video, shot with a remote control helicopter, show a curved, glass roof on the $37.9 million building.



According to Gary Allen, founder and author of ifoAppleStore, the roof will cover the rear three-quarters of the new store. While construction was originally expected to finish by Thanksgiving, the store is now expected to open before Christmas.



"Someone who knows says this building is going to be really spectacular," Allen said of the Broadway store.



At the Broadway site, Apple has torn down most of the original structure, which was originally a Victoria's Secret. However, the city required the company to retain at least half of the original exterior wall.



Apple has existing retail outlets in Manhattan on Prince Street in SoHo, on West 14th Street in the Meatpacking District, and at Fifth Avenue and 59th Street. Recently, the Fifth Avenue store was revealed to be the most profitable per square foot in the expensive shopping district. The store is estimated to have annual sales of more than $350 million.



Apple's Broadway location. Photos courtesy Gary Allen, ifoAppleStore.







Sources say Washington walk-out canceled



After rumors of an employee walk-out at a Washington Apple Store arose, numerous people familiar with the matter have told AppleInsider the issue has been resolved.



Earlier this week, claims of a potential demonstration among employees and ex-workers of the Alderwood Mall store in Lynnwood, Wash., surfaced. Sources have now told AppleInsider that while some issues with the store management remain, the alleged walk-out, reportedly planned for Oct. 3, is no more.



One source said that while the situation might have warranted a walk-out, most of the workers at the Alderwood Mall store would not have participated. The person said that the problem stemmed not from Apple, but from management at the store.



"We have to sell certain amounts of One to One, Apple Care and Mobile Me," the person said. "If the store reaches its goal, the management gets a big bonus. It's not Apple policy, just our management taking things too far."



The person said that employees are upset, some have contacted human resources, and some have quit.
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  • Reply 1 of 65
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    "We have to sell certain amounts of One to One, Apple Care and Mobile Me," the person said. "If the store reaches its goal, the management gets a big bonus. It's not Apple policy, just our management taking things too far."



    Management getting bonuses for the normal employees hard work? Welcome to the real world
  • Reply 2 of 65
    And you think that's acceptable because that's the way it is "in the real world"? No wonder CEO's and other corporate execs enjoy skyrocketing pay increases while the rest of the world is not moving in real earnings. I think people need to reset their thought processes...
  • Reply 3 of 65
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    Originally Posted by ruel24 View Post


    And you think that's acceptable because that's the way it is "in the real world"? No wonder CEO's and other corporate execs enjoy skyrocketing pay increases while the rest of the world is not moving in real earnings. I think people need to reset their thought processes...



    I wasn't saying I agree with it. Just that I enjoy my paycheck too much to go on strike about it.
  • Reply 4 of 65
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    Originally Posted by DKWalsh4 View Post


    I wasn't saying I agree with it. Just that I enjoy my paycheck too much to go on strike about it.



    Exactly!











    And I guess that is why the upper echelon is called management - duh
  • Reply 5 of 65
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    Originally Posted by BuzDots View Post


    Exactly!



    And I guess that is why the upper echelon is called management - duh



    Just curious...are you saying that every employee that's unhappy with how the management is run should walk out? Some people can't afford to just walk out of their job...



    And I am unclear on the pointed remark you're trying to make with your last sentence.
  • Reply 6 of 65
    New store looks great.



    PLEASE, don't be quick to judge or dismiss the working personel at the apple stores. Besides it being tasteless to do so, it's also harsh to not offer support to people who really need it in this day and age. And that is more often than not, not the management but the work force.



    APPLE SHOULD LOOK IN ON THIS ISSUE AND SHOW CARE AND RESPECT FOR THE WORKFORCE, because that's where apple should and usually does stand. If there's a moron manager over there who is abusive they should be dealt with. If the concerns are not that serious they should nevertheless be adressed in an amicable way that shows decency and courtesy to the people at the stores that are the face of apple to the public. We are in harsh financial times and it's justified for some people to be experiencing the adverse effects of this climate. These people should be listened to and not alienated.



    And like I said, please don't be broadly and crassly dismissive of the apple store stuff.



    It's hard but once in a while we all can try putting ourselves in other peoples' shoes and walking the proverbial mile in them. Show some courtesy and some taste.
  • Reply 7 of 65
    All companies tend to treat their employees like crap. They know perfectly well that they can always hire more since people really need money to survive. If the recession ever lifts, then companies will treat employees better.



    Of course they could do better treating their employees better, but corporations only see bottom lines.
  • Reply 8 of 65
    Wow- a friggin skylight and curved ceiling. Pass me the viagra.

    Did Apple intentionally leak these photos out thinking it would actually excite?

    Do you know how many of those we have in NY?



    Misleading: The building has not been torn down- correct? Just the store part. So he's referring to the store not the building for it looks? The price refers to the building.
  • Reply 9 of 65
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    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    Wow- a friggin skylight and curved ceiling. Pass me the viagra.

    Did Apple intentionally leak these photos out thinking it would actually excite?

    Do you know how many of those we have in NY?



    Actually it's the paxil you are after, that -usually- takes some of the constant nagging away.
  • Reply 10 of 65
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    Originally Posted by myapplelove View Post


    New store looks great.



    PLEASE, don't be quick to judge or dismiss the working personel at the apple stores. Besides it being tasteless to do so, it's also harsh to not offer support to people who really need it in this day and age. And that is more often than not, not the management but the work force.



    APPLE SHOULD LOOK IN ON THIS ISSUE AND SHOW CARE AND RESPECT FOR THE WORKFORCE, because that's where apple should and usually does stand. If there's a moron manager over there who is abusive they should be dealt with. If the concerns are not that serious they should nevertheless be adressed in an amicable way that shows decency and courtesy to the people at the stores that are the face of apple to the public. We are in harsh financial times and it's justified for some people to be experiencing the adverse effects of this climate. These people should be listened to and not alienated.



    And like I said, please don't be broadly and crassly dismissive of the apple store stuff.



    It's hard but once in a while we all can try putting ourselves in other peoples' shoes and walking the proverbial mile in them. Show some courtesy and some taste.



    I didn't mean to be dismissive of their complaints as a whole. If they have a disrespectful supervisor or they aren't being treated fairly they have every right to be heard. Apple should look into those instances. I was simply saying if the base their complaint was solely that managers were getting bonuses for them selling up, etc; that they aren't the only ones. It's not only common in big corporations but retail stores all over the place. I don't agree with it but I'm not in a position to do anything about it. (I vote so that's the best I can do)
  • Reply 11 of 65
    paxmanpaxman Posts: 4,729member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DKWalsh4 View Post


    I wasn't saying I agree with it. Just that I enjoy my paycheck too much to go on strike about it.



    So are you management or below? On a slightly different note - it is interesting the way many people turn against the strikers even though I believe few go to the bother of organizing a strike without a pretty solid reason. Its often in the reporting that the bias is sown. A strike could be reported as 'the workers went on strike because they want increased pay', or it could be reported as 'the workers went on strike because the management refuse to give them a decent living wage'
  • Reply 12 of 65
    mpwmpw Posts: 156member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    ...ifoAppleStore has aerial footage of the upcoming Apple Store at 1982 Broadway on the northwest corner of West 67th Street. The pictures and video, shot with a remote control helicopter, show a curved, glass roof on the $37.9 million building...



    OMG, I almost feel ashamed to be a member of an Apple-centric forum, knowing there're such obsessive people out there! Sure Apple make okay tech. stuff, but, remote control helicopter filming of their latest retail building site?!
  • Reply 13 of 65
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    Originally Posted by mpw View Post


    OMG, I almost feel ashamed to be a member of an Apple-centric forum, knowing there're such obsessive people out there! Sure Apple make okay tech. stuff, but, remote control helicopter filming of their latest retail building site?!



    Especially after the helicopter / plane crash here- right? How insensitive!
  • Reply 14 of 65
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DKWalsh4 View Post


    I was simply saying if the base their complaint was solely that managers were getting bonuses for them selling up, etc; that they aren't the only ones.



    My reading of it was that they felt that, because management was so eager to get their bonuses, management was behaving abusively in some way.
  • Reply 15 of 65
    mpwmpw Posts: 156member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by paxman View Post


    ...A strike could be reported as 'the workers went on strike because they want increased pay', or it could be reported as 'the workers went on strike because the management refuse to give them a decent living wage'



    Both of those statements could describe a situation truthfully without bias; it's the lack of information and the reader's assumptions that bring the reader's bias to the fore.
  • Reply 16 of 65
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DKWalsh4 View Post


    I didn't mean to be dismissive of their complaints as a whole. If they have a disrespectful supervisor or they aren't being treated fairly they have every right to be heard. Apple should look into those instances. I was simply saying if the base their complaint was solely that managers were getting bonuses for them selling up, etc; that they aren't the only ones. It's not only common in big corporations but retail stores all over the place. I don't agree with it but I'm not in a position to do anything about it. (I vote so that's the best I can do)



    Hmmm, I hear what you are saying and you are absolutely right. Of course entering these financial times that are both threatening and challenging if a new ethos is not put forth in the western world, an ethos that will curtail this kind of behaviour from the managers part then we are in for some very, very bad surprises. Such friction between the managerial stuff and the workforce might have been tolerable a few years ago with the prosperity and all but it's very hard to handle at the moment, as evidenced by not only this single event but the climate in total.



    Let's hope to god people who are making high echelon decisions, a vocal minority of them at least (because the majority is senseless and corrupt), have some decency and foresight to solve these tough questions before things go horribly awry as they almost did a few months ago. I am by nature an optimist, but I am a pessimist by experience.
  • Reply 17 of 65
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    Originally Posted by paxman View Post


    So are you management or below? On a slightly different note - it is interesting the way many people turn against the strikers even though I believe few go to the bother of organizing a strike without a pretty solid reason. Its often in the reporting that the bias is sown. A strike could be reported as 'the workers went on strike because they want increased pay', or it could be reported as 'the workers went on strike because the management refuse to give them a decent living wage'



    No, I'm not management. I work for a large construction company, and we have had two people protesting outside of our headquarters for approximately six months. They were never employees of ours; they are protesting because we hired non-union workers in a job down in Missouri. Now I personally have overseen the high wages and benefits the union workers receive. It is well above living wage.



    For our non-union workers we're required to pay a comparable amount as union workers. So do they deserve the job less than the union workers?



    Sorry for the rambling, my point is just because people are striking doesn't automatically make them right. (Again, I'm not saying this is\\isn't the case for these Apple workers. I just take protest\\strikes with a grain of salt.)
  • Reply 18 of 65
    mpwmpw Posts: 156member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by old-wiz View Post


    All companies tend to treat their employees like crap. They know perfectly well that they can always hire more since people really need money to survive. If the recession ever lifts, then companies will treat employees better.



    Of course they could do better treating their employees better, but corporations only see bottom lines.



    Spoken like a true union man! Never mind the facts, never mind the economic realities; ALL managers are bad, ALL 'workers' are good. Black and White, Them and Us.\
  • Reply 19 of 65
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by myapplelove View Post


    New store looks great.



    PLEASE, don't be quick to judge or dismiss the working personel at the apple stores. Besides it being tasteless to do so, it's also harsh to not offer support to people who really need it in this day and age. And that is more often than not, not the management but the work force.



    APPLE SHOULD LOOK IN ON THIS ISSUE AND SHOW CARE AND RESPECT FOR THE WORKFORCE, because that's where apple should and usually does stand. If there's a moron manager over there who is abusive they should be dealt with. If the concerns are not that serious they should nevertheless be adressed in an amicable way that shows decency and courtesy to the people at the stores that are the face of apple to the public. We are in harsh financial times and it's justified for some people to be experiencing the adverse effects of this climate. These people should be listened to and not alienated.



    And like I said, please don't be broadly and crassly dismissive of the apple store stuff.



    It's hard but once in a while we all can try putting ourselves in other peoples' shoes and walking the proverbial mile in them. Show some courtesy and some taste.



    Actually Apple has over the last year been cutting back on the higher saleried store staff, instead choosing to have store mgmt be enabled to push staff's hard and lower expenses at same time. Sorry to say the old days of really knowledgable staff is gone, not to say alot of the people don't know what they are doing at the Apple Stores, but Apple is choosing a retail strategy that costs them less overhead to maintain.



    Wish it were otherwise, but in my market, Apple mgmt is driving out lots of their retail staff and many of them have been replaced by somewhat lower cost staff, just another effect of the recession sadly. Apple Corporate would never admit to this and alot of this is dressed up to look like the manager of a particular store or group of stores. but... it isn't that. It is a deliberate campaign to lower Apple retail employee costs.



    Combine that with the fact that Microsoft is launching their own major market store initiative... it is no small reason why so many Apple Store staff that are unhappy with the state of affairs at Apple Retail are willing to accept generous salary packages and jump ship to Microsoft. Yes... sorry mac folk, but its strange to say but Microsoft is becoming the easier and happier place by comparison for people to work at. Apple... is running the risk of becoming the old "evil" Microsoft. Really wish it were otherwise... but for the moment it appears to be a risk they are ok taking.
  • Reply 20 of 65
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DKWalsh4 View Post


    No, I'm not management. I work for a large construction company, and we have had two people protesting outside of our headquarters for approximately six months. They were never employees of ours; they are protesting because we hired non-union workers in a job down in Missouri. Now I personally have overseen the high wages and benefits the union workers receive. It is well above living wage.



    For our non-union workers we're required to pay a comparable amount as union workers. So do they deserve the job less than the union workers?



    Sorry for the rambling, my point is just because people are striking doesn't automatically make them right. (Again, I'm not saying this is\\isn't the case for these Apple workers. I just take protest\\strikes with a grain of salt.)



    Makes a lot of sense.
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