Judge dismisses suit against Apple over iMac G5 display issues

Posted:
in Current Mac Hardware edited January 2014
As Apple released a firmware update to fix graphical glitches on its new 27-inch iMac, a federal judge dismissed a class action lawsuit over display issues on 2006 hardware.



Plaintiff Aram Hovsepian filed the class-action suit demanding $5 million for himself and others similarly situated. The original complaint was issued on Dec. 31, 2008. Hovsepian attempted to include all people who purchased an iMac computer in the U.S.



Last week, Judge Jeremy Fogel of a federal court in San Jose, Calif., dismissed the complaint. He said the "class" cited by Hovsepian cannot be determined because it includes users who have not experienced any problems with their iMac, and have no right to sue.



"These type of class actions are not suitable for actions where recovery of money damages is the primary relief sought by the plaintiff," Fogel wrote. "The purpose of this lawsuit is money damages. These pleading deficiencies are present despite the fact that Hovsepian has been given two opportunities to amend his complaint. Accordingly, the class actions will be struck without prejudice."



The suit states that Hovsepian, a Florida resident, purchased his iMac G5 from Apple in October 2006. The plaintiff alleged that vertical lines began to appear on his display screen in March 2008, which eventually progressed to the point that the screen was unusable.



"He claims Apple knew of or recklessly ignored the existence of the defect that caused premature failure of the display screens, and that Apple failed to take remedial action or remove the defective computers from the marketplace," court documents state.



The decision comes as Apple has had screen flickering and distortion issues with its new, big-screen 27-inch iMac. On Monday, Apple issued a firmware update to address the issue. Some reports this week incorrectly suggested Hovsepian's lawsuit was related to the recent iMac display issues.



Weeks ago, many orders for the new iMac were delayed past Christmas. Apple acknowledged the delays, citing great demand for the new hardware, but did not comment on the reported display issues.
«13

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 46
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,728member
    Common sense ... yeah! If only this judge would relocate to West Texas ... but then he is smart so I guess he wouldn't want to!
  • Reply 2 of 46
    The complainant didn't bother responding to two court requests to amend his complaint. Dumb. On the other side, I can't figure out how one is unable to determine how many iMac G5 users were affected by this; certainly the complainant could request Apple repair records under discovery and also set up a website where affected users could register if they've had such a repair. It's relatively standard procedure; no new ground need be broken. It sounds like Hovsepian just bailed out.
  • Reply 3 of 46
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post


    Common sense ... yeah! If only this judge would relocate to West Texas ... but then he is smart so I guess he wouldn't want to!



  • Reply 4 of 46
    Apple made an imac G5? Didn't know that.



    Let me guess, one person had a problem and all of a sudden I want $5 million dollars. GFY.
  • Reply 5 of 46
    This is a shame. I remember reading all the reports of problems people had and Apple ignoring it.
  • Reply 6 of 46
    eriamjheriamjh Posts: 1,645member
    Can someone send this lawsuit guy a "dumbass" card in the mail? He should have bought AppleCare for his refurbed iMac G5 bought 10 months after the intel iMacs debuted.
  • Reply 7 of 46
    jazzgurujazzguru Posts: 6,435member
    My iMac G5 is just now beginning to experience these display issues. What recourse do I have? None, except fork out a ridiculous amount of money to fix it.



    It's a shame, because without the display issues, it's still a perfectly usable computer.
  • Reply 8 of 46
    801801 Posts: 271member








    As the owner of Workoutmaster, Aram Hovsepian is a unique Corrective Exercise Specialist & Nutrition and Lifestyle Coach who teaches cutting-edge exercise programs and holistic nutrition. Certified by the world-renowned C.H.E.K. Institute, in San Diego, CA, Aram works with the whole person. Total fitness...energy, balance, strength, nutrition and more.



    Training hundreds of people, from beginners to Ironman athletes, he looks at each person as a complete entity (physical, emotional, mental and spiritual) and is highly-qualified to assess and stabilize those problem areas that need correcting. Efficiently. Effectively. And he does it with no machines, no classes, no cliches and no tried-but-not-necessarily-true techniques.



    This is not the "same old-same old" and Aram is not the typical "whip you into shape gym instructor." He creates a custom program of fitness for clients at every level of conditioning. He offers a lifestyle of well-being...and he guides you toward achieving it.



    Born in Yerevan, Armenia, in 1971, Aram was raised and educated in Moscow, where he lived until re-locating to New York in 1991.



    Aram's interest in physical fitness began when he started weight-lifting at the age of 14; it became his career when he worked as a personal trainer at the Peninsula Spa, one of the most prestigious and exclusive spas in New York City and at Plus One NY, the fitness management company that operates fitness facilities for such investment firms as Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Lehman Brothers, etc.



    Then his career became his passion. He moved to California and worked as an independent personal trainer at Evolution Fitness and No Excuses Fitness. In 2003 Aram created his own exercise facility, Workoutmaster, in Pasadena, CA. In 2007 he moved to Greater Miami area to be closer with the rest of his family.



    While "passion" is a natural pre-requisite for C.H.E.K. practitioners, it is really just the beginning. The Corrective Holistic Exercise Kinesiology Institute (C.H.E.K.) is an elite educational and corrective exercise centre that is recognized as a world leader in functional and rehabilitative exercise by exercise and health professionals alike.



    C.H.E.K. certification requires time and effort and dedication; it demands study and education. Aram completed a rigorous training at the Institute and through books and seminars, he continues to open his mind to new ideas and exciting possibilities. Certification demands a commitment to both the science and to the clients who are coached in it. It also promotes that all C.H.E.K. professionals "lead by example." Quoting from their philosophy, "C.H.E.K. practitioners...are taught that information only becomes knowledge when that information is used to change the lives of others for the better."



    Aram is a paragon of the C.H.E.K. professional; he shares his knowledge to enhance the lives of his clients and he inspires them to reach their goals. "Everything is possible..." he says, "you only have to put your mind to it." It's a "can do" attitude backed by wide-based skills and practical experience. And he will provide you with an individual and innovative lifestyle program to ensure that you do it!



    Aram's certifications:



    1. C.H.E.K Practitioner Level 2

    2. C.H.E.K. Nutrition & Lifestyle Coach Level 2

    3. Trainer of NLP (Neuro-linguistic programming) and Neurological Repatterning

    4. Master Results Coach

    5. National Strength and Conditioning Association Certified Personal Trainer

    6. American Council on Exercise Certified Personal Trainer

    7. East Coast Instructor Training School Gold Certified Personal Trainer

    8. American Heart Association CPR Certified



    http://www.workoutmaster.com/aram.html



    Sorry, couldn't help myself.......
  • Reply 9 of 46
    al_bundyal_bundy Posts: 1,525member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jazzguru View Post


    My iMac G5 is just now beginning to experience these display issues. What recourse do I have? None, except fork out a ridiculous amount of money to fix it.



    It's a shame, because without the display issues, it's still a perfectly usable computer.



    people pay money to fix old computers? cheaper to buy a new one



    4-5 years of use is normal. having electronics fail after several years of use is not out of the norm and grounds for a lawsuit. no manufacturing process is perfect and the best Apple can do is have standards for post-manufacturing testing and buy parts that meet their standards. there are monitor resellers that specify selling LCD's with dead pixels at a discount because there is a market for it and no one wants to throw them away
  • Reply 10 of 46
    eehdeehd Posts: 137member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bdkennedy1 View Post


    This is a shame. I remember reading all the reports of problems people had and Apple ignoring it.



    It is interesting that Apple has not ignored the new iMac's problem and released a fix for it. Maybe they thought someone might sue them again.
  • Reply 12 of 46
    Apple provides a 1 year warranty on their products with the option of a 3 year extended warranty. When things fail out of the prescribed warranty period, there are costs associated with the repair, simple as that.



    Yes, in this case, it's an expensive repair for the end user. Such is life. It happens with ANY piece of electronics.
  • Reply 13 of 46
    Gee, another immigrant who thinks he is going to get rich by filing a lawsuit. This our image in the world, and it is believed. This seems doubly true with lawsuits filed against Apple!



    I know, I know ... Plenty of ridiculous suits by American born idiots, too.
  • Reply 14 of 46
    Modern-day America. The age of lawsuits and judges who think they ARE the law. There is no law today...just politicians picking sides and the special interest groups who fund them. Male prohibita statues by the thousands and the lawyers, judges, district attorneys and the state are the ones who get the money from it all. May we slaves remain blind to the usurpers who crack the whip upon our backs. May we continue as happy little Americans. Was this country not born out of compliance and laziness? Apathy and unending entertainment? Was not our freedom gained by our unfaltering trust in those who governed us?



    Nope.



    CarolinaLiberty.com
  • Reply 15 of 46
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jazzguru View Post


    My iMac G5 is just now beginning to experience these display issues. What recourse do I have? None, except fork out a ridiculous amount of money to fix it.



    It's a shame, because without the display issues, it's still a perfectly usable computer.



    Take it to the Apple Store. The display on my mother's iMac G5 started showing vertical lines a few months ago. It was 3.5 years old, and we never got AppleCare for it, but Apple repaired it for free.
  • Reply 16 of 46
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sprockkets View Post


    Let me guess, one person had a problem and all of a sudden I want $5 million dollars. GFY.



    No, they wanted $5 million to split between everyone with teh problem, not one individual. That's how class action lawsuits work.
  • Reply 17 of 46
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sprockkets View Post


    Apple made an imac G5? Didn't know that.



    Let me guess, one person had a problem and all of a sudden I want $5 million dollars. GFY.



    You guess wrong; they were infamously problem-ridden. And if you didn't know Apple made an iMac G5, then why are you posting at all?
  • Reply 18 of 46
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by earache View Post


    Take it to the Apple Store. The display on my mother's iMac G5 started showing vertical lines a few months ago. It was 3.5 years old, and we never got AppleCare for it, but Apple repaired it for free.



    Not anymore. Apple did extend the iMac G5 warranties about a year, but are now no longer honoring them. We continue to have iMac G5 failures (bad capacitors, power supplies; the same things that caused our >50% failure rate under AppleCare) but Apple won't even talk to us about them now. Not that I'm complaining; the units are indeed old. But don't tell people they can still get them serviced for free, 'cos they can't.
  • Reply 19 of 46
    ktappektappe Posts: 824member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bjojade View Post


    Apple provides a 1 year warranty on their products with the option of a 3 year extended warranty. When things fail out of the prescribed warranty period, there are costs associated with the repair, simple as that.



    Except that it's not. The world is nowhere near as black and white as you want to believe it is.



    Consider the case of the bad capacitors that Apple (and Dell and IBM) bought from Korea in 2004. Those capacitors have caused nearly 50% of iMac G5's to fail. Apple reached a settlement with the maker of those capacitors. Why should owners of G5's whose capacitors fail out of warranty not be compensated with a repaired G5 given that Apple did receive settlement from the company responsible for that G5 failing?!?



    See? No black & white. Stop trying to see the world that way.
  • Reply 20 of 46
    lundylundy Posts: 4,466member
    Hey, to all those reporting 801's satirical post as "spam", take a little closer look at the name of the guy who runs the exercise studio.
Sign In or Register to comment.