Apple corners market on 10.1-inch LCD, OLED screens - report

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  • Reply 41 of 77
    vinney57vinney57 Posts: 1,162member
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    Originally Posted by striker_kk View Post


    2 models?? Not likely~!



    Very likely. iPhone/Touch? 3G/WiFi only?
  • Reply 42 of 77
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    Originally Posted by vinney57 View Post


    Very likely. iPhone/Touch? 3G/WiFi only?



    iPhone was announced in Jan 2007, went on sale in Jun 2007. Touch went on sale in Sep 2007. There was a gap, nevertheless.

    Two versions on the market mean tablet is not that innovative and the rollout can be easily handled.
  • Reply 43 of 77
    Here is my theory on this: (1) one version with an LCD, no 3G and no subsidy, but lifetime wi-fi, with a price point cheap enough for the masses due to screen and decent enough battery life due to no cellular radio and despite LCD, and (2) one with OLED, 3G subsidy to make it cheaper (VZN of course), and great battery life due to the screen and despite the radio. Possibly a slight size or other configuration difference as well, but not necessarily given economies of scale in terms of aluminum cases, logic boards, software complexities, etc.
  • Reply 44 of 77
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    Originally Posted by Smiles77 View Post


    Actually, no. I recently read an article about how the Army switched to Mac for their servers because Dell was switching parts mid-cycle. They said two Dells bought within one week of each other (same model) had a different chip on the motherboard. They said that kind of thing is unacceptable because they have to thoroughly test every single part. He said Macs keep high quality control and don't swap parts mid-cycle.



    I also recall reading this article, just don't remember where I saw it. Possibly digg, not sure.. I doubt it was on AI.
  • Reply 45 of 77
    davegeedavegee Posts: 2,765member
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    Originally Posted by PastorOfMuppets View Post


    The new tablet will have an LCD on one side, OLED on the other... Perfect for all situations, and cost over $3,000. Why buy one, when you can have two for twice the price?



    If this is that case I'm in for TWO!



    Imagine sitting in the living room and as the wife passes by she notices the home and garden web site being displayed on the tablets outward facing screen... but on the inward facing screen its porn porn porn as far as the eye can see...



    A 21st century revival of sliding a comic book on the inside pages of a school book.
  • Reply 46 of 77
    I wouldn't read too too much into one "designer's" claim, especially being a CES floor monkey, that Apple has gobbled up the entire supply of 10.1" displays for both LCD and OLED. The spread of dis-information at CES about (as of yet) mythical Apple products would come as no surprise to me. That said, I have my reservations about OLED being used in large form computing displays at this point in time, especially since there are still kinks and issues to be worked out in regards to performance and lifetime expectancy. The most common non-tv devices to feature OLED displays at this point have been camera and PMP devices- screen sizes that fall in the 3.5" range. I would have to think that scales of economy come into play. I recall lots of people on here definitively stating last year that Apple would sport an OLED display on the iPhone 3G, when the truth was there were little to no other devices of similar make or size that were using them, and therefore the cost would be high. I knew it wouldn't happen, and was right- they stuck with LCD. The onset this year is a bit different with OLEDs now on Zune, Nexus, and coming to many more. I think it would be prime time for Apple to feature an OLED display on the new iPhone later this year. The tablet is a different story. There simply hasn't been any real mass production of OLEDs in 10.1" sizes yet, so either Apple is paying an arm and a leg for these, or the claim of this so-called "designer" is complete bunk, IMO. Sure, the idea of the tablet sporting an OLED display I know is a wet dream for some here, but so was the idea of the iPhone having one last year. And we all know how that turned out.
  • Reply 47 of 77
    Think of holding a tablet in landscape or portrait rotation. Also, think of holding the tablet at oblique angles, laying flat on a table or propped upright like a picture frame. OLED has a very wide viewing angle and would be vastly superior to an LCD for this reason alone!
  • Reply 48 of 77
    ppieppie Posts: 14member
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    Originally Posted by malax View Post


    Well OLED doesn't really fit that either. OLED is more like LED than eInk (or whatever they call the screen tech that MIT invented and the Kindle uses) from a visibility perspective, right?



    I think an OLED screen is the worst possible option for an e-reader, as the energy usage scales linearly with the number of pixels that are 'on'.

    A full white OLED screen has been shown to use 3 times the energy of the same size LCD display.

    If people want 'whitish' pages, the energy drain would be much more than an LCD version...
  • Reply 49 of 77
    ppieppie Posts: 14member
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    Originally Posted by spacevator View Post


    Think of holding a tablet in landscape or portrait rotation. Also, think of holding the tablet at oblique angles, laying flat on a table or propped upright like a picture frame. OLED has a very wide viewing angle and would be vastly superior to an LCD for this reason alone!



    High performance LCD screens, such as IPS panels have very wide viewing angles.

    The new iMacs have IPS panels with 178 degrees horizontal and vertical.

    I think that would be enough...
  • Reply 50 of 77
    christmas is over. there will be no tablets or slates.
  • Reply 51 of 77
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
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    Originally Posted by markspain View Post


    >> OLEDs, or organic light-emitting diodes ... <<



    Finally, we have diodes produced without chemical fertilizers or pesticides.



    (Jobs takes the stage):



    "You've heard about these Organic Light Emitting Diodes, right? Fantastic technology, really, really nice, gets the chemicals and toxins and all that stuff you don't want out of your Light Emitting Diodes. But we here at Apple thought: 'We can do better.' So I'm very pleased to tell you that our new iSlate uses......... Free Range Light Emitting Diodes. It's incredible. Each Diode has been raised on a farm in Solano Country, just a few mile north of here, actually, beautiful, beautiful country, and let me tell you, they are pampered. And the really great thing about it for our customers is that the light coming from these diodes is actually 30% mellower than what you've been able to achieve till now. 30% mellower. It's fantastic."
  • Reply 52 of 77
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Originally Posted by markspain View Post


    >> OLEDs, or organic light-emitting diodes ... <<



    Finally, we have diodes produced without chemical fertilizers or pesticides.









    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Smiles77 View Post


    Actually, no. I recently read an article about how the Army switched to Mac for their servers because Dell was switching parts mid-cycle. They said two Dells bought within one week of each other (same model) had a different chip on the motherboard. They said that kind of thing is unacceptable because they have to thoroughly test every single part. He said Macs keep high quality control and don't swap parts mid-cycle.



    They do. If you go to System Preferences » Displays » Color tab » Open Profile » scroll to bottom to

    '17 mmod?. You can also paste this in to Terminal?
    Code:


    ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6





    I made sure I got the ?good? MBP pro display when I bought my last Mac as there was a clear difference between two different manufacturers. Also, Apple silently updated the MacBook?s TN display with the same display panel type in the MBA/MBP around last May.
  • Reply 53 of 77
    rainrain Posts: 538member
    The iSlate has 2 screens.

    There will be a high price attached to it as it will come with another surprise... it's detachable from a new desktop computer.



    cheers
  • Reply 54 of 77
    quinneyquinney Posts: 2,528member
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    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    (Jobs takes the stage):



    "You've heard about these Organic Light Emitting Diodes, right? Fantastic technology, really, really nice, gets the chemicals and toxins and all that stuff you don't want out of your Light Emitting Diodes. But we here at Apple thought: 'We can do better.' So I'm very pleased to tell you that our new iSlate uses......... Free Range Light Emitting Diodes. It's incredible. Each Diode has been raised on a farm in Solano Country, just a few mile north of here, actually, beautiful, beautiful country, and let me tell you, they are pampered. And the really great thing about it for our customers is that the light coming from these diodes is actually 30% mellower than what you've been able to achieve till now. 30% mellower. It's fantastic."



    I can verify this. I live there and I saw a herd of them grazing peacefully on the side of a verdant hill.
  • Reply 55 of 77
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
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    Originally Posted by rain View Post


    The iSlate has 2 screens.

    There will be a high price attached to it as it will come with another surprise... it's detachable from a new desktop computer.



    cheers



    Nice effort. You're wrong about the name also.
  • Reply 56 of 77
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
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    Originally Posted by spacevator View Post


    Think of holding a tablet in landscape or portrait rotation. Also, think of holding the tablet at oblique angles, laying flat on a table or propped upright like a picture frame. OLED has a very wide viewing angle and would be vastly superior to an LCD for this reason alone!



    I hope you're right. I'd rathe pay an extra $400 if I knew it was OLED.
  • Reply 57 of 77
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by markspain View Post


    >> OLEDs, or organic light-emitting diodes ... <<



    Finally, we have diodes produced without chemical fertilizers or pesticides.



    lmao



    OLEDs are much fresher tasting also.
  • Reply 58 of 77
    rainrain Posts: 538member
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    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    Nice effort. You're wrong about the name also.



    You will see. It's not just going to be a tablet. It's going to be a detachable product of something much more.
  • Reply 59 of 77
    seek3rseek3r Posts: 179member
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    Originally Posted by IQatEdo View Post


    There does seem to be quite some nervousness about the price of this device - whatever it is. \



    doesnt have to be one device.... netbook *and* an islate?
  • Reply 60 of 77
    rainrain Posts: 538member
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    Originally Posted by seek3r View Post


    doesnt have to be one device.... netbook *and* an islate?



    Your thinking the right things.
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