Silver?, no no, we meant gold....

alcimedesalcimedes
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in General Discussion edited January 2014
lol, turns out that the canadians are getting gold after all.



the french judge got suspended, and they're going to use the marks from the Chezc judge instead.



guess they got evidence that she was responsable for misconduct in her scoring.



the Chezc judge had the Canadians in first place as well, so now things will be tipped in their favor, and they get a gold after all.



i'll be darned.



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  • Reply 1 of 42
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    Wow. All in all this is a good thing because we all got a little disallusioned about the Olympics and maybe the press can now focus on actual olymic GAMES.
  • Reply 2 of 42
    gregggregg Posts: 261member
    That's justice for the Canadian skaters, but the Ruskies don't deserve the gold too. I heard a Russian skating official on the radio saying it was all anti-Russian politics, including the cheering in the arena. Of course, that's what you'd expect her to say. I'm sure they scoff at us saying, no, it's about who skated the best in this competition. You don't get carry-over points for being good four years ago. Or, you shouldn't.
  • Reply 3 of 42
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    Great news. Too bad it should never have come to this. It's been too man years.
  • Reply 4 of 42
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    Perhaps they don't deserve the Gold, but it's too late to take it away. it's easier to give than to take.
  • Reply 5 of 42
    casecomcasecom Posts: 314member
    I'm surprised. I didn't think the ISU had the guts to do it.



    The Russians are all upset now that their gold will be viewed as tainted. The deputy prime minister is flying to Salt Lake to "support the team" ...
  • Reply 6 of 42
    ghost_user_nameghost_user_name Posts: 22,667member
    I can't tell you how happy I am that the US had nothing to do with this.
  • Reply 7 of 42
    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    [quote]Originally posted by Scott H.:

    <strong>I can't tell you how happy I am that the US had nothing to do with this.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    i a m sure that we won't see you tomorrow on AI , have a good week Scott.



  • Reply 8 of 42
    ghost_user_nameghost_user_name Posts: 22,667member
    Why not? Where will I be?
  • Reply 9 of 42
    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    [quote]Originally posted by Scott H.:

    <strong>Why not? Where will I be?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    don't you wait for somebody today ?, if my wife was coming back after some days i will not go to AI.

    My wife won't be please if i was chating on internet after she comes back. Sure she have many thing to tell me.

    That's all, nothing serious afterall.
  • Reply 10 of 42
    ghost_user_nameghost_user_name Posts: 22,667member
    Oh yea you never know. She may have lagged over to Turino time. That's 7 ahead of us. So when she flys in at ... well at 1 today that's 8 "her time" she may be in bed by 5 pm today?



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  • Reply 11 of 42
    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    [quote]Originally posted by Scott H.:

    <strong>Oh yea you never know. She may have lagged over to Turino time. That's 7 ahead of us. So when she flys in at ... well at 1 today that's 8 "her time" she may be in bed by 5 pm today?



    [ 02-15-2002: Message edited by: Scott H. ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Yes it's always hard to come back to our time , it can take a few days to recover.



    Turino remind me something :

    Did she bring you back a Ferrari ?

  • Reply 12 of 42
    pfflampfflam Posts: 5,053member
    Personally, this makes me sick.



    Let us know for what reasons this judge was dismissed, why there was bias in the judgement. (I don't know what they have said)



    If they haven't said then they definitly should show some proof. Otherwise it is an absolute shame and lowers the whole idea of competition.



    The fact that we had clamouring for a revision is somehow sickening to me: and most sickening of all was the photo-op of the skaters on stage with that awfull mediocre band the Barenaked Buncha Idiots





    Besides I stick to my guns: the Russians were better despite minor flaws: they had passion and sould the Canadians had Wonder Bread: perfect and tastless.
  • Reply 13 of 42
    ghost_user_nameghost_user_name Posts: 22,667member
    I didn't watch either live but from the tape it's clear that the Russians made obvious errors that the Canadians did not.



    MS NBC has a nice video loop where they show the two pairs side by side doing the same move. The Candians nailed it and the Russians botched it.
  • Reply 14 of 42
    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    There is , there was and there will always problems with the judge for artitistic skating.



    I have watch for many years international skating competitions , and there where always problems, contestations. This is really bad for the athlets.

    Should the results be voted by public :certainly not the public is not professional, and is not a model of impartiality. Imagine the result of the vote in china for example ...

    but something has to change , for the credibility of this sport.
  • Reply 15 of 42
    alcimedesalcimedes Posts: 5,486member
    [quote]Personally, this makes me sick.

    Let us know for what reasons this judge was dismissed, why there was bias in the judgement. (I don't know what they have said)



    If they haven't said then they definitly should show some proof. Otherwise it is an absolute shame and lowers the whole idea of competition.

    <hr></blockquote>



    did it ever occur to you that the judge might not want it made public. i'm not sure if you know how blackmail works, but usually it's along the lines of "do what i say or i'll tell people about such and such dark secret"



    there's a good chance, IMO, that she had something that she wanted to keep private. she signed a statement to the fact that she was dishonest in the judging, what more do you want? let her private life stay that way.
  • Reply 16 of 42
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    [quote]Besides I stick to my guns: the Russians were better despite minor flaws: they had passion and sould the Canadians had Wonder Bread: perfect and tastless.<hr></blockquote>



    Russians: traditional and stale

    Canadians: energetic and entertaining



    That's how I saw it, and that's how the audience saw it. Fer suuure. Not dooubt abooout it.



    And the French officials have already stated that the french judge's did received pressure from the Russians to trade votes. This is all but an admittal of guilt. She was sent packing back to France. If she wasn't guilty, you'd think she'd be putting up a bigger fight.
  • Reply 17 of 42
    gregggregg Posts: 261member
    And the tainted judge has been suspended indefinitely. Her own organization is handing out the sanction.



    France is my favorite European country, probably because I learned alot about it (which I have since forgotten 90% of) in school. I've also forgotten most of the language, which I was only beginning to learn. That said, France is also America's worst European ally. Sorry, but I think that can be documented, although I'm not going to be the one to do it here. It's not surprising that the Russians chose to make their bed with the French. I'd guess that it's the bureaucrats in and out of government that love to give the U.S. trouble. The citizens of France probably just roll their eyes at that crap.
  • Reply 18 of 42
    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    [quote]Originally posted by Gregg:

    <strong>And the tainted judge has been suspended indefinitely. Her own organization is handing out the sanction.



    France is my favorite European country, probably because I learned alot about it (which I have since forgotten 90% of) in school. I've also forgotten most of the language, which I was only beginning to learn. That said, France is also America's worst European ally. Sorry, but I think that can be documented, although I'm not going to be the one to do it here. It's not surprising that the Russians chose to make their bed with the French. I'd guess that it's the bureaucrats in and out of government that love to give the U.S. trouble. The citizens of France probably just roll their eyes at that crap.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> Stop that assessment about France being the worst american allies of US. France love his independance for foreign policy, that's all, i have some time the impression when reading some threads of this forum , that beeing your allies just imply to follow you blindly wherever you go.



    The case of the french judge has nothing to do with politics, the french are the leaders in Dance skating, so russians can make pressure on the french : if you don't help us you won't give you the gold medal for dance. That's all, there where always stories like that in skating unfortunately, one of our former dance Skater wrote a book on this subject " les patins de la colere" denounciating this ugly tractation of the judges between them.



    This is a shame for me that a french judge is involving, but she is only the tree that hide the forrest. I am happy of the decision of the CIO, and i wish that sportivity is coming back in that sport.
  • Reply 19 of 42
    murbotmurbot Posts: 5,262member
    Dude, you write the funniest damn posts...



  • Reply 20 of 42
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    poutine sucks.



    And what is it with french food? I stopped eating pureed food when I was a kid. French cuisine = hospital food with fancy napkins.
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