Rosie O'Donnell & Gay Adoptions
So she is, in fact, homosexual. Below is a link to a story CNN.com did on Rosie and her interview on ABC's Primetime Thursday.
<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/News/03/14/odonnell.gay.adoption.reut/index.html"; target="_blank">CNN.com Story</a>
At the risk of being thrown into the burning flames, I'll say my bit:
I don't really agree with gay adoption. Of course, if you know me at all, you already know I don't really agree with homosexuality in general.
Now, KINDLY discuss.
<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/News/03/14/odonnell.gay.adoption.reut/index.html"; target="_blank">CNN.com Story</a>
At the risk of being thrown into the burning flames, I'll say my bit:
I don't really agree with gay adoption. Of course, if you know me at all, you already know I don't really agree with homosexuality in general.
Now, KINDLY discuss.
Comments
I have more than one person in my family who was adopted (my mother included), and I've discussed all sorts of stuff like this with them. They feel that a good, safe, loving, and accepting home is all a child could want. A girl on that program talked about how she had been adopted at *12* years old. Imagine going through the first 12 years of your life with ****ed up parents or no parents at all, being shifted back and forth between cruel and disgusting conditions in foster homes (don't tell me they're all great places--I have quite a few very unfortunate friends who would tell you otherwise). It sure as hell beats that.
If you disagree with gays/homosexuality, that's one thing. But hating gays/homosexuals enough to both want to deprive them of having a family, and teach children that they should hate and discriminate against gays in these kinds of ways is another, and completely immoral and unacceptable. You might think being gay is 'unnatural,' and maybe it is, but newsflash, a hell of a lot in this world is unnatural, like beating your kids or smoking crack. I'd rather be part of a household that involves parents with an arguably 'unnatural' sexual preference than either of those. What kind of effect do you think it is going to have? How about they'll be able to figure out something that an unfortunately large number of Americans, Christians included, still can't today--that you can disagree with a lifestyle and still practice tolerance.
Like someone said in the program (forgive my memory), "These kids don't care what goes on in their parents' bedroom... They just want a loving family and a home." (verbatim)
I suppose some would say that all gay people are impure and bad parents. I think that kind of thinking is becoming increasingly unpopular.
It seems like a lot of good people are being turned down for adoption.
<strong>I think the only people who shouldn't be allowed adopt are children are christians.</strong><hr></blockquote> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
<strong>I think the only people who shouldn't be allowed adopt are children are christians.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Bigot.
think about it... she now gets to right a book about it and go on talk shows and get "air time" to talk about "it" and sell her story so we can have a "made for tv movie", etc... show...
its a publicity stunt... she makes more money and gets more airtime (another couple minutes in the spotlight) and she can always change her mind later...
If she is, who gives a .....
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I would say that it is a natural part of humanity, but a minority within the overall human population, in a similar way that left-handedness is. Do we discriminate against left handers? Do lefthanders get arbitrarily beaten up in the street by rednecks, hatemongers and lefthanderbashers? Do they get disqualified from this, that and the other, because of their minority status within a population? No, no, and no. Then why do gay people get the shaft? Maybe because, as a society in the USA, we have this puritan roots, and we have this massive problem with sexuality in general.
I mean, if the Justice Dept spends 10s of thousands of $$ to cover up the breasts of a bronze statue because John Ashcroft can't handle it, or one of the TV networks goes to the trouble of digitally constructing a virtual bikini strap to hide a woman's naked back (!!!!!!!!!???), while at the same time they show broken bodies, shootings, bombs, blood, and guts by the shipload without a blink, then that proves that we have some truly fvcked up values and priorities.
actually, that's not entirely true. i'll have to dig up my human sexuality textbook.
there's a tribe in Africa with 0% homosexuality (at least in men for sure). no one could figure out why. then they found out that the tribe believed that the only way to get semen for yourself was to swallow it from someone else. so young boys are made to suck the men of the village off and swallow, until they can produce semem of their own.
all the boys have to do it. after they come of age, not a single one is homosexual. interesting.
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actually, that's not entirely true. i'll have to dig up my human sexuality textbook.
there's a tribe in Africa with 0% homosexuality (at least in men for sure). no one could figure out why. then they found out that the tribe believed that the only way to get semen for yourself was to swallow it from someone else. so young boys are made to suck the men of the village off and swallow, until they can produce semem of their own.
all the boys have to do it. after they come of age, not a single one is homosexual. interesting.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Interesting ?
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discussing
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I would say that it is a natural part of humanity, but a minority within the overall human population, in a similar way that left-handedness is. Do we discriminate against left handers? Do lefthanders get arbitrarily beaten up in the street by rednecks, hatemongers and lefthanderbashers? Do they get disqualified from this, that and the other, because of their minority status within a population? No, no, and no. Then why do gay people get the shaft? Maybe because, as a society in the USA, we have this puritan roots, and we have this massive problem with sexuality in general.
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I agree that Homosexuality is a natural part of humanity and therefore have to respect it.
But the problem of adoption is different from left hander against right hander. The problem of adoption is to bring a child in a new family. We have also to consider the future of the child. Many homosexual in my opinion can be good parents, and some of them have childs and are married indeed. Some homosexuals are terrible parents in the same ways has heterosexuals parents.
My personal question about this ,is homesexual family can bring identity problems for the child ?. You know even in the old Greece, the family was made of a father and a mother weither or not their sexual preferences (gay or not). What is the consequences of such family model ?
I have not very strong opinions in that subject, just find it not very natural, any advices or answers to this question are welcome.
As much as it pains me to say it, I don't believe gay adoption is a good thing. Not at this point in time. Until homosexuality is more widely accepted in society I feel that it's unfair for the children to have to put up with the funny looks and the "my two Dads" taunts.
That's my two pence on the subject but I don't think I'm an expert just because I'm a queer so I'm happy to listen to other views. Even from people who class themselves as homophobic, after all, I’m scared of midgets but that doesn’t make me a bad person.
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Why should gay people not be allowed to adopt? It's stupid to not allow them to care for a child if they want to. After all, they have to go under the same background checks, etc. to see if they are fit parents, and if they are, then why should they not be allowed to adopt?
I don't see how growing up with gay parents would be drastically different then with straight parents. The only thing I can think of is that the kid might be given a hard time about their parents being gay. But let's face it: Within the next few years, I think you're going to see 'gay rights' take off in terms of them being able to get married, etc. Why give them a hard time about raising children? After all, they're just a person.
The thing that gets me is that other people think that they have the right to judge other people that are different in some way from them. They think they are so much better, that they get to judge other people. Baloney. We're all people, and we should all have the same rights.
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The thing that gets me is that other people think that they have the right to judge other people that are different in some way from them. They think they are so much better, that they get to judge other people. Baloney. We're all people, and we should all have the same rights.</strong><hr></blockquote>
With the exception of PC users, right?!
J :cool:
<strong>Jamie, don't you think it would be more widely accepted if it was more common?
Well yes and no. It seems to be much more common now than a few years ago to see gay couples in the street but I don't think the level of acceptance has risen dramatically.
Outright prohibiting people that are gay (much less gay couples) from adopting is patently absurd. It's as aburd as prohibiting Scientologists from adopting, or prohibiting Mormons from adopting.
I'm intentionally pointing to two other groups that are commonly disliked and distrusted in the popular culture, and who regularly have their value systems questioned. It's discriminatory and illegal to make a blanket prohibition on adoption by these groups; instead, we tend to believe in judging the individuals, not the group.
The criteria for adoption should be simple: the best interests of the child. That should be evaluated by the ability of the prospective parents to raise the child with love and attention.
In short, I'd rather be adopted by two wonderful gay people (or two wonderful Scientologists) than by two lousy straight people.
Seriously, was there ever a doubt. You ever see Another Stakeout?
<strong>Then why do gay people get the shaft? </strong><hr></blockquote>
must....fight....urge....to...joke...