Are not most of Apple's customers born after 1984?
Seriously this is a lot of marketing to get some developers onboard and excited. Some people need an enemy to get motivated.
I was never impressed with that Ridley Scott commercial, it has become some sort of Citizen Cane for the nerd world.
Apple has shaken things up and broken the hold Microsoft had on the tech world for nearly 15 years. There were a lot less complaints about Microsoft with it's "real and abusive" monopoly than Apple being the worlds 7th largest phone company.
It all started with the iPod though, not as recently as the iPhone as Google is saying.
If you want to use an iPhone or iPad you NEED to use iTunes... You NEED an iTunes account. That right there is restricting. And what is Apple's reasoning behind this? "It just works better that way" is the usual response.
In The Beginning, you also needed a Mac.
The iPod never really took off until a Windows version of iTunes became available.
Google is a government intelligence front. End of story. Apple may be tied into big government interests as well, but there's little to no evidence to support that.
Google however, it has already come out they work hand in hand with the NSA and are likely just a CIA front. Why would anyone even doubt that to begin with? Smart people wouldn't
First, I don't think Google is correct. Apple has a closed system, but there are choices out there if one doesn't like their system. Many people DO like it though, which explains Apple's success.
The Apple 1984 ad was describing a different phenomenon. The IBM PC was dominant. It was bleak, boring, and supported by what would become a borderline illegal software monopoly. Apple's Mac was different...creative, independent and geared towards the end user.
And the end-user is what Apple is ALL about today. People want integration and ease of use...coupled with fantastic design. If they didn't, they'd chose another collection of impressive hardware specs coupled with a mediocre (or even bad) UI with a brand name slapped on it.
Finally, I think that Google may be making a very large mistake taking on Apple publicly. Google has become a behemoth. It's fatal flaw may end up being hubris. They want to dominate everything it seems, not just the search and information organization business (organizing the world's info was their only goal for some time ). Apple, by contrast, picks and choses what areas it wants to get into. Google cannot dominate everything---at least not forever.
PS: And yes, with Google's recent "problems"--I can't help but laughing at their comments.
I was told in college there's actually no such thing as more than 100% when correctly talking about percentages
For instance, instead of saying 1 to 8 is a rise of 800%, you just say 8 times. If that 1 drops to .5, you can say 50%. Companies use things like 800% as a way to wow people. It just sounds better.
I can appreciate hyperbole in self-promotion as much as the next guy. But the fact is that in 1984 there was Microsoft and virtually nobody else. Apple was barely on the radar in terms of platform use. Today, it is RIM who dominates a smartphone market that has many significant players. Phone buyers have many choices. There is simply no grounds for Google's invoking the 1984 ad as comparison to the situation in the smartphone market today. Nice try, Eric.
**Whoops, just noticed that SDW2001 above said the same thing**
The numbers are far closer than you'll want to admit. Android is already selling more in the US, and it's 15% vs 10% worldwide.
That is not at all clear. Both of those figures are based on a single self-selecting survey.
SALES figures put Apple's worldwide business well ahead of Android. And even that comparison is flawed. Why would you compare ALL Android devices to just one iPhone OS device from Apple?
Either compare all Android devices to all iPhone OS devices (including iPod Touch and iPad) or compare any one Android phone to the Apple iPhone.
I'm not interested in a comparison of whether all Korean cars put together outsold the Camry.
The numbers are far closer than you'll want to admit. Android is already selling more in the US, and it's 15% vs 10% worldwide. But Android's growth rate, even at 10% (which is what Apple was at last year), will push it past iPhone within the year.
June 7th would like a word with you. Given the sales figures of the marginally upgraded 3GS at launch, I can only image what the sales of a significantly upgraded iPhone will be like. Either way, Apples goal is not to make the most devices, but to make the best devices.
It's easy to be on a "meteoric growth curve" when you are growing from nothing, but, the more you grow, the more difficult it is to maintain that curve, so it's not surprising to see, and perhaps not meaningful to point this out, in relation to iPhone growth.
Don't these curves follow several traditional trajectories?
I've seen a lot of curves for new products that are very flat near the left, as the early adopters buy them, and then get steeper and steeper as they enter an exponential growth portion of the curve, but then tend to flatten out again as they become mature.
I think that Android is in the exponential growth phase, while iPhone OS has become a more mature product. If/when Apple goes to more US carriers, I would expect the curve to get much steeper, very quickly, given that to a lot of consumers, it would represent a new product.
But none of this can really be used to predict the level at which the curve will flatten out, or whether it will remain flat, given product changes. Nobody knows with any certainty or in any detail what the future market share will be for any of these technologies.
If I were to guess, I think that Android will surpass iPhone OS in every area - phones, tablets, netbooks, STBs, automobile/emergency OSs, misc. handheld/palmtop devices - but I have no reliable crystal balls.
Android's worldwide marketshare today is exactly what iPhone's worldwide marketshare was one year ago. And the trend has not abated, it's still growing far faster than iPhone. And it should be really easy to see why. There's tons of phones, there's tons of carriers.
There is also tons of software, much of it unavailable on the iPhone.
Lucky for me, I don't need to be a shill or fanboy for any particular tech company. The market competition is a good thing for us consumers and while I presently use the iPhone, I'll be more than happy to switch to an Android based platform if and when it delivers a better "internet in your pocket" experience to include such things as the same rendering of websites on the device as I would get on a desktop or laptop.
So far though, I have yet to see that and commercials that dog Apple as Orwellian don't cut it, especially when Google and Orwell's 1984 are virtual synonyms. Google has the bulk of my e-mail, my web, news, & group searches, RSS feeds, Adwords, Analytics, YouTube vids, and my credit card. I'm so plugged into Google, when it' goes down, I'm pretty much dead in the water except for screaming on Twitter.
Is this a joke!?!? Apple created a phone how they felt it should be created.. alot of people really liked it and CHOSE to buy it.
In what way does this compare to a totalitarian dictatorship which makes its decisions for people. I'll admit it was similarily lame when apple used this tactic in the 80's, but at least then people really had no choice apart from do it their way or go with out.
Now people have hundreds of choices for cellphones and choose.. again CHOOSE iPhone because they prefer what it offers.
Honestly, I like the people at google and usually respect and connect with the things they say.. but this was just retarded.
This is a common tactic of corporations and government figures in the US.. by trying to scare people into doing what they want with the big communist boggieman!! (or socialist or totalitarian) They're just words. People's lack of education on these words is what does the damage. Basically what Google is trying to acomplish here is tell people "Essentially if you buy an iPhone, that means you love Kim Yong Il."
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Are not most of Apple's customers born after 1984?
Seriously this is a lot of marketing to get some developers onboard and excited. Some people need an enemy to get motivated.
I was never impressed with that Ridley Scott commercial, it has become some sort of Citizen Cane for the nerd world.
Apple has shaken things up and broken the hold Microsoft had on the tech world for nearly 15 years. There were a lot less complaints about Microsoft with it's "real and abusive" monopoly than Apple being the worlds 7th largest phone company.
It all started with the iPod though, not as recently as the iPhone as Google is saying.
If you want to use an iPhone or iPad you NEED to use iTunes... You NEED an iTunes account. That right there is restricting. And what is Apple's reasoning behind this? "It just works better that way" is the usual response.
In The Beginning, you also needed a Mac.
The iPod never really took off until a Windows version of iTunes became available.
However I see Google more draconion than Apple.
In their respective markets, Google has more of a monoply than Apple.
I was about to mention that very same thing, all this Android talk is making windows technology all the more irrelevant. I like that
"All the more"?
How is Windows currently irrelevant?
Google is a government intelligence front. End of story. Apple may be tied into big government interests as well, but there's little to no evidence to support that.
Google however, it has already come out they work hand in hand with the NSA and are likely just a CIA front. Why would anyone even doubt that to begin with? Smart people wouldn't
So I guess this is why Google is trying to get into every facet of our lives.
Yes. You are correct. This is why.
1984? You ain't seen nothing.
"All the more"?
How is Windows currently irrelevant?
Android could take it's place as an actual OS for computers (maybe the simplest ones I guess)
The Apple 1984 ad was describing a different phenomenon. The IBM PC was dominant. It was bleak, boring, and supported by what would become a borderline illegal software monopoly. Apple's Mac was different...creative, independent and geared towards the end user.
And the end-user is what Apple is ALL about today. People want integration and ease of use...coupled with fantastic design. If they didn't, they'd chose another collection of impressive hardware specs coupled with a mediocre (or even bad) UI with a brand name slapped on it.
Finally, I think that Google may be making a very large mistake taking on Apple publicly. Google has become a behemoth. It's fatal flaw may end up being hubris. They want to dominate everything it seems, not just the search and information organization business (organizing the world's info was their only goal for some time ). Apple, by contrast, picks and choses what areas it wants to get into. Google cannot dominate everything---at least not forever.
PS: And yes, with Google's recent "problems"--I can't help but laughing at their comments.
800% of 1 is 8.
112% of 100 is 112.
There you go.....
I was told in college there's actually no such thing as more than 100% when correctly talking about percentages
For instance, instead of saying 1 to 8 is a rise of 800%, you just say 8 times. If that 1 drops to .5, you can say 50%. Companies use things like 800% as a way to wow people. It just sounds better.
**Whoops, just noticed that SDW2001 above said the same thing**
The numbers are far closer than you'll want to admit. Android is already selling more in the US, and it's 15% vs 10% worldwide.
That is not at all clear. Both of those figures are based on a single self-selecting survey.
SALES figures put Apple's worldwide business well ahead of Android. And even that comparison is flawed. Why would you compare ALL Android devices to just one iPhone OS device from Apple?
Either compare all Android devices to all iPhone OS devices (including iPod Touch and iPad) or compare any one Android phone to the Apple iPhone.
I'm not interested in a comparison of whether all Korean cars put together outsold the Camry.
The numbers are far closer than you'll want to admit. Android is already selling more in the US, and it's 15% vs 10% worldwide. But Android's growth rate, even at 10% (which is what Apple was at last year), will push it past iPhone within the year.
June 7th would like a word with you. Given the sales figures of the marginally upgraded 3GS at launch, I can only image what the sales of a significantly upgraded iPhone will be like. Either way, Apples goal is not to make the most devices, but to make the best devices.
It's easy to be on a "meteoric growth curve" when you are growing from nothing, but, the more you grow, the more difficult it is to maintain that curve, so it's not surprising to see, and perhaps not meaningful to point this out, in relation to iPhone growth.
Don't these curves follow several traditional trajectories?
I've seen a lot of curves for new products that are very flat near the left, as the early adopters buy them, and then get steeper and steeper as they enter an exponential growth portion of the curve, but then tend to flatten out again as they become mature.
I think that Android is in the exponential growth phase, while iPhone OS has become a more mature product. If/when Apple goes to more US carriers, I would expect the curve to get much steeper, very quickly, given that to a lot of consumers, it would represent a new product.
But none of this can really be used to predict the level at which the curve will flatten out, or whether it will remain flat, given product changes. Nobody knows with any certainty or in any detail what the future market share will be for any of these technologies.
If I were to guess, I think that Android will surpass iPhone OS in every area - phones, tablets, netbooks, STBs, automobile/emergency OSs, misc. handheld/palmtop devices - but I have no reliable crystal balls.
And of what use are patients?
To a doctor, they are very useful... Without them he has now business.
Android's worldwide marketshare today is exactly what iPhone's worldwide marketshare was one year ago. And the trend has not abated, it's still growing far faster than iPhone. And it should be really easy to see why. There's tons of phones, there's tons of carriers.
There is also tons of software, much of it unavailable on the iPhone.
Lucky for me, I don't need to be a shill or fanboy for any particular tech company. The market competition is a good thing for us consumers and while I presently use the iPhone, I'll be more than happy to switch to an Android based platform if and when it delivers a better "internet in your pocket" experience to include such things as the same rendering of websites on the device as I would get on a desktop or laptop.
So far though, I have yet to see that and commercials that dog Apple as Orwellian don't cut it, especially when Google and Orwell's 1984 are virtual synonyms. Google has the bulk of my e-mail, my web, news, & group searches, RSS feeds, Adwords, Analytics, YouTube vids, and my credit card. I'm so plugged into Google, when it' goes down, I'm pretty much dead in the water except for screaming on Twitter.
+1 Well said.
In what way does this compare to a totalitarian dictatorship which makes its decisions for people. I'll admit it was similarily lame when apple used this tactic in the 80's, but at least then people really had no choice apart from do it their way or go with out.
Now people have hundreds of choices for cellphones and choose.. again CHOOSE iPhone because they prefer what it offers.
Honestly, I like the people at google and usually respect and connect with the things they say.. but this was just retarded.
This is a common tactic of corporations and government figures in the US.. by trying to scare people into doing what they want with the big communist boggieman!! (or socialist or totalitarian) They're just words. People's lack of education on these words is what does the damage. Basically what Google is trying to acomplish here is tell people "Essentially if you buy an iPhone, that means you love Kim Yong Il."
Fuck off Google.