How Apple might be planning to invade every living room on the planet

zab the fabzab the fab
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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
Wow, interesting read!!



How Apple might be planning to invade every living room on the planet

http://www.myapplespace.com/profiles...be-planning-to



A few pieces fell into a "scary" puzzle a few minutes ago. I saw a vision that Apple might have already seen and merges together a few rumors. I think you're gonna like this particular "prophecy".



My x-ray vision has penetrated the secret Apple labs in Cupertino so kick back and enjoy the ride ...you're about to start dreaming of an Apple TV like you never thought it was possible!





The article basically explains HOW Apple might bring your iOS Apps to your TV, and then enable you to bring your "TV" to your bedroom and finish your favorite shows ...OR GAMES !!!



If this thing comes true - Apple will invade every living room on the planet ! YIKES!!!

Read the rest...

http://www.myapplespace.com/profiles...be-planning-to

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 10
    infinitespecterinfinitespecter Posts: 284member
    Didn't Steve just say that no one wants to buy a box for their TV just last week? Has he been proven wrong since then?
  • Reply 2 of 10
    zab the fabzab the fab Posts: 303member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by infinitespecter View Post


    Didn't Steve just say that no one wants to buy a box for their TV just last week? Has he been proven wrong since then?



    Doesn't Apple already sell a box for the TV?
  • Reply 3 of 10
    infinitespecterinfinitespecter Posts: 284member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zab The Fab View Post


    Doesn't Apple already sell a box for the TV?



    Yes, and by all accounts it's been a dismal failure, leading to his words last week.
  • Reply 4 of 10
    zab the fabzab the fab Posts: 303member
    Well then you also see the need to improve the product, which was the subject of the article.
  • Reply 5 of 10
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 15,326moderator
    I think a huge development just came along that could help boost a possible Apple TV replacement product.



    The rumored ATV replacement is basically a plug that streams data direct from the internet.



    Well, Onlive have demos of their new system that launched yesterday running on the iPad:



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpFzpF0msrU



    That is a 3D FPS game streaming over wifi, which was previously not thought possible due to the lag but it looks very playable.



    The OnLive keynotes always seem to mention Apple, possibly because Steve Perlman used to work there but they always have Macs/iPhones/iPads to show off the tech:



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sf-nZeC4d0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bntms8U346c

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6QnBSCSQ6Y

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlylhHxMKaI



    Here is a player's review:



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir4B0rgta0Y



    It's not perfect but imagine buying a $99 plug that connects direct to your TV that allows you to get apps with the magic trackpad mentioned above, high-end games with a controller of some sort, whether it's an OnLive one or an Apple one and streaming 1080p video.



    That would be a fairly impressive device. Naturally entirely dependent on your broadband connection but networks are continually getting faster so it shouldn't be a problem. Apple typically invest in products that have steep 'technical vectors' as Jobs put it and they can jump on them quick and ride them while the technology is hot. Right now, this tech is new but with huge potential - it's pretty much Youtube for games but profitable.



    EA needs to stop doing stupid things like blocking Mass Effect 2 from the Mac platform though through a licensing restriction. No reason for that move whatsoever. It's not a huge deal as you can boot a VM or Bootcamp but a pointless move.



    The ATV plug doesn't even have to use the components from the OnLive box, if the iPad has a native app, it should be fine to run it.



    Here's the fancy trailer for it:



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSvy-ElKvbs



    This moves Apple heavily into the realm of content delivery - iTunes is already there for music but this is the big move for games and video. The ATV could stop being a hobby real soon.
  • Reply 6 of 10
    infinitespecterinfinitespecter Posts: 284member
    I was an OnLive beta tester, and I literally just got done using the service a second ago to play Unreal Tournament. Under the best of circumstances, it works great and I have no complaints. However, they don't allow it to work over Wifi, and any little problem in your network connection shows up as the video breaking up and kicking you off the service. I have a 7mb DSL connection and I have problems all the time. Point is, it is at a very un-Apple level of usability at this point.
  • Reply 7 of 10
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
    The living room needs to be more simplified - not made more complex. The Magic Trackpad is nothing more than a trackpad for desktops.



    The only way Apple will 'invade' the living room is by getting a subscription service for iTunes TV content, something the TV-guys don't want to give Apple. The second piece of the puzzle, when you get a subscription package, is suddenly the device can be subsidized - making it cheap.



    So low-cost and a TV Subscription. Everything else is a bonus (Apple UI, sleek hardware, simple setup).



    The whole point of all this is to finally, actually have a living room with one remote. For me that's the main goal of this whole thing. I don't care what anyone says, today that doesn't exist.
  • Reply 8 of 10
    zab the fabzab the fab Posts: 303member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    The living room needs to be more simplified - not made more complex. The Magic Trackpad is nothing more than a trackpad for desktops.



    The only way Apple will 'invade' the living room is by getting a subscription service for iTunes TV content, something the TV-guys don't want to give Apple. The second piece of the puzzle, when you get a subscription package, is suddenly the device can be subsidized - making it cheap.



    So low-cost and a TV Subscription. Everything else is a bonus (Apple UI, sleek hardware, simple setup).



    The whole point of all this is to finally, actually have a living room with one remote. For me that's the main goal of this whole thing. I don't care what anyone says, today that doesn't exist.



    It's Apple who does not want subscription and they have not been shy about it. Apple wants to expand the App Store north east west and south. Taking it to the Television is an opportunity they can't miss and won't miss. The multitouch track pad makes this a reality and is the obvious component in this move to take over the living rooms of the world.

    The developers will go wild and the iOS customers can now take their favorite Apps to their television. It's the one thing none of their competitors can match.



    Apple will invade the living room, and they will do it the Apple way. The next Apple TV is an obvious move and it won't be long before Apple invites the press. In 2010 for sure.
  • Reply 9 of 10
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 15,326moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by infinitespecter View Post


    I was an OnLive beta tester, and I literally just got done using the service a second ago to play Unreal Tournament. Under the best of circumstances, it works great and I have no complaints. However, they don't allow it to work over Wifi, and any little problem in your network connection shows up as the video breaking up and kicking you off the service. I have a 7mb DSL connection and I have problems all the time. Point is, it is at a very un-Apple level of usability at this point.



    It will be a similar deal with 1080p streaming though. The experience will vary greatly between connections due to contention ratios and the type of service - I'd expect cable and fiber optic to provide better sustained bandwidth. I use cable and get far more reliable sustained bandwidths on it than DSL. DSL would drop to under 400k at peak and get interference from dodgy microfilters. My cable is pretty much always 4-10Mbits.



    With the ATV device acting as a media hub and not just a gaming device means that people can buy one and use it for media until the OnLive service is optimized or their ISP improves their service.



    The blocked use over wifi can be worked around. You just bridge the wifi and ethernet connections. It seems this is done on the Mac by doing:



    system prefs > network > cog wheel > manage virtual interfaces > click plus > new link aggregate > select wifi and ethernet



    This might fool the OnLive into thinking you have a wired connection even when running just on wifi. It's been done on Windows using the bridge option and the latency is only a couple of milliseconds difference. The iPad demo at E3 looked ok to me and it's on wifi.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ireland


    The living room needs to be more simplified - not made more complex. The Magic Trackpad is nothing more than a trackpad for desktops.



    The trackpad would be perfect for the TV. Imagine navigating the UI and the screen maps to your trackpad, two-finger scrolling instead of tapping down and simply sliding the TV guide left to right. Scrubbing a movie or TV show would be so easy as it could use an acceleration curve.



    I think it would be better attached to the wireless keyboard as you will need to type things but for controls, it would be very cool and it simplifies the remote immensely and removes the buttons so the controls can be totally custom on the TV device and updated when needed.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ireland


    The only way Apple will 'invade' the living room is by getting a subscription service for iTunes TV content, something the TV-guys don't want to give Apple.



    Pay per minute would work with decreasing cost the more you watch up to a fixed cap. The fixed cap can come later when content providers see the market.
  • Reply 10 of 10
    lemon bon bon.lemon bon bon. Posts: 2,173member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Marvin View Post


    I think a huge development just came along that could help boost a possible Apple TV replacement product.



    The rumored ATV replacement is basically a plug that streams data direct from the internet.



    Well, Onlive have demos of their new system that launched yesterday running on the iPad:



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpFzpF0msrU



    That is a 3D FPS game streaming over wifi, which was previously not thought possible due to the lag but it looks very playable.



    The OnLive keynotes always seem to mention Apple, possibly because Steve Perlman used to work there but they always have Macs/iPhones/iPads to show off the tech:



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sf-nZeC4d0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bntms8U346c

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6QnBSCSQ6Y

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlylhHxMKaI



    Here is a player's review:



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir4B0rgta0Y



    It's not perfect but imagine buying a $99 plug that connects direct to your TV that allows you to get apps with the magic trackpad mentioned above, high-end games with a controller of some sort, whether it's an OnLive one or an Apple one and streaming 1080p video.



    That would be a fairly impressive device. Naturally entirely dependent on your broadband connection but networks are continually getting faster so it shouldn't be a problem. Apple typically invest in products that have steep 'technical vectors' as Jobs put it and they can jump on them quick and ride them while the technology is hot. Right now, this tech is new but with huge potential - it's pretty much Youtube for games but profitable.



    EA needs to stop doing stupid things like blocking Mass Effect 2 from the Mac platform though through a licensing restriction. No reason for that move whatsoever. It's not a huge deal as you can boot a VM or Bootcamp but a pointless move.



    The ATV plug doesn't even have to use the components from the OnLive box, if the iPad has a native app, it should be fine to run it.



    Here's the fancy trailer for it:



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSvy-ElKvbs



    This moves Apple heavily into the realm of content delivery - iTunes is already there for music but this is the big move for games and video. The ATV could stop being a hobby real soon.



    A thoughtful post, Marv'.



    A streaming plug. All the TV content can be Apps. Regular rules apply.



    iPhone/iPod/iPad the TV care of a little streaming brick. All synced. Content is allowed on upto 5 devices, right?



    Mac. iPhone. iPod. iPad. iTV (heh) 'ATV'.



    I count five.



    So you can play your app games on the tv care of your itouch pad/phone/pod sep' apple 'pad' controller.



    All ATV (new version) is doing, is like Marv' says, streaming stuff around.



    Networks are getting so fast going forwards = non-issue.



    ATV is the last piece of the puzzle for me. How do I know? Steve Jobs always rubbishes an idea before Apple pull off a masterstroke of 're-invention.'



    'Us, make a phone? No.'



    Next.



    'iPhone. Ta-da!'



    ATV on iOS. Coming.



    Lemon Bon Bon.
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