It?s interesting, for the past decade we?ve been hearing that Macs don?t get viruses because their marketshare is too small to be a concern.
Yet, Macs had viruses well before Mac OS X was introduced, back when they sold a lot less units and had even less marketshare. That doesn?t consider the fact that Mac sales are about double that of the average PC sale which indicates that Mac users may be a better target for thieves due to more disposable income to access.
This completely shatters that pejorative security through obscurity mantra that since Android has less marketshare than iOS devices.
Well, at least Norton has a chance to make some money on smartphones now.
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Originally Posted by Mike Fix
This can/will happen to the iPhone one day. It's inevitable. But I do like the fact that there's a company doing their best to prevent such a thing from happening.
Sure, anything can happen. There are exploits in code and brilliant though unethical coders that find other ingenious ways to circumvent security, but Apple did conceive and implement a foundation that makes this harder.
No issues with the 3 Android phones and two Android tablets in my home, but the spouse's iPhone 4 appears to be dropping calls a bit more than usual today (as indicated by her angrily exclaiming as much upon walking through the door this evening), and the old iPhone 3g didn't take too kindly to that last firmware update.
Oh Well... I guess we're just Android-Lucky
EVEN HERE IN JAPAN, ANDROID Apps Store ARE NOTRIOUS FOR
" FULL OF TRASHES, JUNKIES AND ILLEGAL COPY THINGS "！！！！！！！！！！！！！
EVEN THAT GIZMODO JAPAN POINTED OUT AND WARNED THE SITUATION JUST A MONTH AGO！！！！！！！！！
No, this thread proves nothing, mainly because is full of wrong facts. An app with that permission can't read any personal data (SMS's, bookmarks, history, voice mail passwords, etc)
No, this thread proves nothing, mainly because is full of wrong facts. An app with that permission can't read any personal data (SMS's, bookmarks, history, voice mail passwords, etc)
You don?t consider SMS messages you?ve written, bookmarks you?ve saved, history of your browser, or the actual password to access your private voicemail messages as personal? I certainly do. What if your VM password, usually a PIN number, isn?t also the same as your ATM PIN number?
You don?t consider SMS messages you?ve written, bookmarks you?ve saved, history of your browser, or the actual password to access your private voicemail messages as personal? I certainly do. What if your VM password, usually a PIN number, isn?t also the same as your ATM PIN number?
No, I consider this personal and important data. But this data CAN'T BE READ with the permissions that this app has.
Well, I hate to agree with you, but there is no upside for Android on this one. Google needs to take a more hands-on approach to vetting apps. But since they are making nothing on the software or hardware, they have no incentive to do what Apple does, which sounds like a huge headache.
Microsoft has apparently adopted an Apple-like approach to their app store for WM7. It will be interesting to see if WM7 displaces Android over time if problems like this continue. MS could carve out a niche in which they are less restrictive than Apple (Google Voice, more carriers than just asstastic AT&T, etc.) but curate their app store to a much greater extent than Google. It will be interesting to watch how this plays out.
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Originally Posted by solipsism
I?m looking forward to the counterargument. I can?t think of a single angle that is pro-Android on this one.
It is amazing that one modern mobile OS gets denigrate for even the simplest slip up and the other modern mobile OS can make huge errors in design that are well known to fail and barely anyone will ever know it existed despite the number of people it affects.
No, I consider this personal and important data. But this data CAN'T BE READ with the permissions that this app has.
So you're saying, obviously, that the people who reported the app as sending this sensitive data to somebody in China are making it up. Lying, in fact. Interesting, but surprising that nobody at the black hat conference called them on it.
Unless the report was bogus and the security guys never claimed the wallpaper app actually did what's been attributed to it.
What makes you certain that the app cannot access the data claimed? Not that I'm doubting your knowledge - but thus far you're the only voice stating that position. And excuse my ignorance, Android is foreign to my experience.
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well we (iPhone owners) wouldn't know. ask DaHarder
I though you wouldn't know.
By the way, with those permissions an app can't read most of the thing the reports says.
Yet, Macs had viruses well before Mac OS X was introduced, back when they sold a lot less units and had even less marketshare. That doesn?t consider the fact that Mac sales are about double that of the average PC sale which indicates that Mac users may be a better target for thieves due to more disposable income to access.
This completely shatters that pejorative security through obscurity mantra that since Android has less marketshare than iOS devices.
Well, at least Norton has a chance to make some money on smartphones now.
This can/will happen to the iPhone one day. It's inevitable. But I do like the fact that there's a company doing their best to prevent such a thing from happening.
Sure, anything can happen. There are exploits in code and brilliant though unethical coders that find other ingenious ways to circumvent security, but Apple did conceive and implement a foundation that makes this harder.
enough said. lol
The schadenfreude being expressed here may well haunt a few posters in the future ...
Let's be careful out there.
True enough.
Hmmm... Using fear to justify draconian control and censorship... I wonder if that has ever been used in the past...
Have fun with your spyware and leave us alone.
Hmmm... Using fear to justify draconian control and censorship... I wonder if that has ever been used in the past...
Yep it's better just to leave users alone in the dark like google does and call it open market, open source and so on? What are you smoking?
Love to see the fandroids response to this...
It's overblown.
The android os, the entire android market, and the whole android philosophy Are All By Design insecure.
Why? Any argument for that?
It's overblown.
How do you say that is Mandarin?
Why? Any argument for that?
Here?s an argument that backs up his point.
Love to see the fandroids response to this...
"They were just using it wrong..."
Sorry... I just couldn't help it!
No issues with the 3 Android phones and two Android tablets in my home, but the spouse's iPhone 4 appears to be dropping calls a bit more than usual today (as indicated by her angrily exclaiming as much upon walking through the door this evening), and the old iPhone 3g didn't take too kindly to that last firmware update.
Oh Well... I guess we're just Android-Lucky
EVEN HERE IN JAPAN, ANDROID Apps Store ARE NOTRIOUS FOR
" FULL OF TRASHES, JUNKIES AND ILLEGAL COPY THINGS "！！！！！！！！！！！！！
EVEN THAT GIZMODO JAPAN POINTED OUT AND WARNED THE SITUATION JUST A MONTH AGO！！！！！！！！！
Here?s an argument that backs up his point.
No, this thread proves nothing, mainly because is full of wrong facts. An app with that permission can't read any personal data (SMS's, bookmarks, history, voice mail passwords, etc)
Have fun with your spyware and leave us alone.
But I've got the one with the Gee Bees!
No, this thread proves nothing, mainly because is full of wrong facts. An app with that permission can't read any personal data (SMS's, bookmarks, history, voice mail passwords, etc)
You don?t consider SMS messages you?ve written, bookmarks you?ve saved, history of your browser, or the actual password to access your private voicemail messages as personal? I certainly do. What if your VM password, usually a PIN number, isn?t also the same as your ATM PIN number?
You don?t consider SMS messages you?ve written, bookmarks you?ve saved, history of your browser, or the actual password to access your private voicemail messages as personal? I certainly do. What if your VM password, usually a PIN number, isn?t also the same as your ATM PIN number?
No, I consider this personal and important data. But this data CAN'T BE READ with the permissions that this app has.
Microsoft has apparently adopted an Apple-like approach to their app store for WM7. It will be interesting to see if WM7 displaces Android over time if problems like this continue. MS could carve out a niche in which they are less restrictive than Apple (Google Voice, more carriers than just asstastic AT&T, etc.) but curate their app store to a much greater extent than Google. It will be interesting to watch how this plays out.
I?m looking forward to the counterargument. I can?t think of a single angle that is pro-Android on this one.
It is amazing that one modern mobile OS gets denigrate for even the simplest slip up and the other modern mobile OS can make huge errors in design that are well known to fail and barely anyone will ever know it existed despite the number of people it affects.
No, I consider this personal and important data. But this data CAN'T BE READ with the permissions that this app has.
So you're saying, obviously, that the people who reported the app as sending this sensitive data to somebody in China are making it up. Lying, in fact. Interesting, but surprising that nobody at the black hat conference called them on it.
Unless the report was bogus and the security guys never claimed the wallpaper app actually did what's been attributed to it.
What makes you certain that the app cannot access the data claimed? Not that I'm doubting your knowledge - but thus far you're the only voice stating that position. And excuse my ignorance, Android is foreign to my experience.