Most people don't even know Apple makes computers.
- I would disagree on this point. Care to link to any recent data that would show this? I call BS on this.
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Mention Snow Leopard or Time Capsule or even iMac's to the average consumer and they don't know what you're talking about any more than they know what Flash or Real Player is.
- I disagree on the point of iMac, Flash and Real Player. If you have any data other than your anecdotal experiences then I would look at it. People tend to know Real Player if they've ever had to use it because it tends to be annoying (like Flash it draws attention to itself) and causes the user to do something (like download a plugin). It's pretty clear on websites what's a flash website and what isn't. Average consumer would know Flash (#1), iMac (#2 - my guess), and Real Player (#3). I wouldn't expect a consumer to know Snow Leopard or Time Capsule.
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Most people I know can barely open an email or find a web page without getting into trouble.
That's pretty meaningless because I know lots of people who aren't very computer literate but have no problems emailing and web browsing. Oddly enough, things the iPad also excels at - go figure why their is such a large market for it!
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I'm thoroughly exhausted from thrashing your posts and I am going to bed now. Have a pleasant night Mr. Talon.
Trolls don't sleep. They simply log into other user accounts.
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No one visits Apple's website but geeks like us. Everyone else gets their Apple products from Best Buy and Wal Mart.
Wrong, millions of people every day visit the Apple website. It's one of the most successful/popular retail websites out there.
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Sorry for the multiple replies but I don't know how to answer all your incorrect points at the same time. Just call me an attention craving troll if you like.
Certainly, you are an attention craving troll Blackintosh. It makes no difference to me if you respond in multiple replies or in a single organized reply like I do.
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We are talking about the iPad, not the phone. As I said twice before and will say again, if Flash is going to suck my battery dry then I don't want to use it on a phone. But an iPad is meant to be used at home with Wi Fi. I have 110 volt plug outlets in my home so all the excuses for not having Flash do not apply to the iPad.
It sounds like you use your iPad primarily plugged into a wall outlet like a computer rather than a mobile device as it was intended. Therefore, the same arguments that applied for the iPhone apply for the iPad. Being mobile means battery life restrictions. You've defeated the purpose of the iPad being a mobile device if you use it continuously plugged into a wall outlet. That's fine, it's just not how it was designed, nor how most non-geeks unlike yourself would use such a product.
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So why can't the iPad have Flash? Because this is a personal issue between Apple and Adobe.
Not at all, it was a simple business issue. If and when Adobe creates a Flash plugin that works efficiently on mobile touchscreen devices that can display the current web content created for Flash desktop, then it will be introduced. They have still yet to deliver it. As I said, go to Macrumors.com for the hit or miss review on it with Android phones.
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Besides, Safari ain't the best browser in the world anyway. Half the time on my real Mac I get an error message about missing mime plug in's, whatever they are. So I fire up FireFox and get on with business. Can't do that with an iPad, can you?
There are other web browsers for the iPad and iPhone if you care to download them like you did on your Mac. I recommend iCab internet browser as an alternative: http://www.icab.de/ .
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And why not? Does Steve Jobs hate Modzilla the way he hates Verizon and Matte screens and physical buttons and USB 3 and Blu Ray???
You sound like you know what Steve Jobs hates. But it is already abundantly clear that you cannot separate logical business decision making skills from your emotions to see clearly. Links for where he says he hates the above or no dice.
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If I go to a website I expect everything to work. Period. If I click a link to see a video clip of Lady Gaga, I don't want to see some message telling me to download flash when I can't.
Youtube.com > search: Lady Gaga. Done. Works perfectly it seems.
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If I go to a site that has music samples, I expect them to play. I don't want to see a message saying I need to download Realplayer when I can't.
Those websites can decide to negotiate contracts that enable them to use standards but they don't. Unfortunate for them to limit themselves in that regard and inconvenience potential customers.
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I stand by what I initially said. The average Joe has no idea what flash is or what it does.
Far from shown or proven. Is there even an internet survey you could link to? Gosh, I know tons of people who know what Flash is and are average Joe's. I know so many that my anecdotal evidence of knowing people now outweighs yours! I hope your beginning to see they way you argue - with anecdotal evidence - doesn't end up anywhere...
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Apple has always done a good job of making the underpinnings of OSX as transparent as possible. How many printer drivers came with Leopard? How many fonts? All so you as the end user won't have to be bothered with downloading stuff and you can get on with your life.
All quite irrelevant in this case, it's like comparing Apple's to Oranges.
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Then iOS came along. Horrible hobbled experience. And why you guys want to see it on the Mac and the Apple TV is beyond my ability to comprehend.
Sorry you don't like iOS devices that you supposedly continue to buy, own and operate of your own free will and money?
This is really a major announcement, and it signals a paradigm shift in the news industry.
It's becoming harder and harder to make money with the print model, so they need to do this to stay afloat.
That being said, they are putting all of their eggs into one basket with their USA Today app for iPad...and it's buggy. It crashes on me at least once every session. Hopefully they focus on fixing things like this.
Okay, let's start at the top. The market the iPad is aimed at is internet and email. You can't see 75 percent (Walt Mossberg's figure) of the internet. Not good.
Flash may be outdated proprietary software but it is needed to visit websites. If you don't have you can't see it.
I never said I wanted to edit HD content. You made that up. But since you mentioned it, why is there iMovie for the phone and not the iPad?
And don't call me stupid or I will have you BANNED. Like I was for name calling. BANNED!!!! BANNED!!!!!
Mossberg said something about 75 percent of video content, not the entire web.
While I'm at it, just for the record, what major content can't I view on ipad? YouTube? Hulu? Netflix? Facebook? Any accessible, professionally coded site? I don't have the flash plug in on any of my devices, Windows or Mac and I've yet to be unable to view any content that. Is of interest to me without it.
Back on track, even usa today get it. Why can't you.
You're not even stating your opinion, you just talk crap in order to evoke reaction. Everyone here knows it. You ruin discussion for other site users.
When will these 'journalists' realize that they are not fooling anyone. The only news outlet that is going to be left soon is FOX News and The Wall Street Journal. USA Today is evaporating while FOX News and The Jounal just keeps growing. Don't the people at USA Today ask why!
Not the point. The point is you can't do something you might otherwise want to do.
Yes but whos fault is that? Can you really blame Apple for rejecting something that has never worked well in mobile space. Or for that matter never worked well on Macs.
You would have a good case if you could produce examples of flash working well on smart phones but you can't because it doesn't exist. Hardware simply can't support what flash demands.
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Not because the technology doesn't exist.
Ok show us where the technology is viable. Really especially at the time of iPhones introduction or on the memory constrained devices that followed. To take a decision made three years ago and apply it to Adobe's half assed solution they are shipping now is a waste of time.
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But because the CEO of the company has a personal issue with Adobe.
You have no evidence to support that statement. Especially when it is clear that Adobe never has had and currently doesn't have a viable solution. Don't bother posting back about flash on Android as that just makes you look stupid.
Okay, let's start at the top. The market the iPad is aimed at is internet and email. You can't see 75 percent (Walt Mossberg's figure) of the internet. Not good.
Flash may be outdated proprietary software but it is needed to visit websites. If you don't have you can't see it.
Doesn't matter because flash doesn't work on the current generation of cell phone hardware. You are constantly acting as if flash is viable on these device when in reality it is not.
Now what do you call some one that makes decisions counter to all of the evidence available to him?
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I never said I wanted to edit HD content. You made that up. But since you mentioned it, why is there iMovie for the phone and not the iPad?
I don't know what Apple is thinking but consider a few possibilities:
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IPad doesn't have enough RAM.
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IPad doesn't have a video camera.
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IPad is running an interim OS thus maybe Apple is waiting for APIs to become available.
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Apple knows they can tweak Blackintosh by keep the software off iPad.
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And don't call me stupid or I will have you BANNED. Like I was for name calling. BANNED!!!! BANNED!!!!!
First off if this thread is any indication name calling was just an excuse to get this crap of yours off the forum for awhile. There simply is no excuse for the garbage that you have left in this thread. The fact is if you keep it up nobody will want you on this forum.
In any event if you don't want to be called stupid supply us with a suitable descriptor. Do you need a list?
I assume you're either thirteen or retarded? Troll. You're not even stating your opinion, you just talk crap in order to evoke reaction. Everyone here knows it. You ruin discussion for other site users.
Well, good morning. How nice to hear from you,.
I am not ruining the discussion on this site. I am saving this forum by providing insightful commentary rather than blind worship for the great God Jobs. Just because I don't think everything Apple does is magical and revolutionary doesn't make me a troll.
No, you need me on this forum. That is why I am holding back and not calling you what you really are. Don't want to be banned for name calling as I realize what a capital offense it is here.
You fanbois are very sensitive, aren't you? Please don't cry.
- I disagree on the point of iMac, Flash and Real Player.
That's pretty meaningless
Wrong.
Certainly, you are an attention craving troll Blackintosh.
Not at all,
no dice.
Far from shown or proven.
All quite irrelevant in this case, it's like comparing Apple's to Oranges.
Whew! Looks like I totally struck out with you there fingernails. Er, excuse me, Talon. I love the way you want me to spend all day providing data and statistics to back up my Apple observations which are common sense to anyone with eyes and ears. And while I'm in the library doing al that research, where will you be? Out having a good time on your day off?
Naah, I think I'll go out and have a good day while you fanbois keep the flames going without me. Enjoy your time alone cause I will be BACK!
And just for the record, when YouTube had the complete Lady GAGA Beyonce Telephone video, it was not available on the mobile version, as well as complete episodes of classic TV shows. iPhone YouTube is not the same thing as the regular site. Go look it up. That's YOUR homework for today. I'm going to the beach now. Chow.
Really simple actually. I'm a normal regular person. I see Apple for what it is. A company. Not my friend or my family. I see Steve Jobs for who he is. A CEO, not a God.
Actually I wish more people in this forum where equally like minded. As such though you should realize that Apple strives to make decisions in its best interest. Thus the decision years ago not to crap iOS with flash.
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I have a realistic view of Apple and it's products. I think the Mac OS is the best thing they make, iLife is terrific and the iPhone is like my third hand.
Yes Mac OS/X is pretty damn good, so good that iOS is derived from it. However iOS is tailored for a completely different market.
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But lately Apple has taken a turn for the weird. Glass iPhones, ultra glossy iMac screens,
What is the problem with either one of them? Seriously if you think a glass iPhone is a mistake buy a 3GS. As fr the glossy screen whine enough already, the market has pretty much proven that the overwhelming majority like such screens.
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crippled devices like the iPad and so on.
Crippled isn't the word many would use. Rather they seeit as the first tablet that works well. Besides I'm not going to defend iPad as I see the lack of RAM on the device as a reason not to buy. I don't call it crippled but rather see it as a rev 1 device that doesn't meet my needs. For others it is an ideal device.
Oh and the lack of flash isn't a sign that the device is crippled at all. Rather it is a sign that somebody is taking a stand against crap software.
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I think Steve Jobs has lost his mind lately, either due to his medications (that's my excuse)
Jobs didn't create the iTunes/app store environment in a vacuum, many very smart people at Apple put this altogether. Nothing in this world is perfect but frankly I've had pretty positive results from these services. In any event Steve is only the head of the company, not every idea is his, it is his job to make any ideas pursued successful though. Sometimes that involves being an excellent salesman. App store and iTunes though pretty much sell themselves these days.
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or because he is feeling his mortality
This is an interesting comment as history is full of people that have come back from a near death experience and enjoyed great success. I not going to dive into the psychology behind this but it does happen.
You seem to take this additional focus as a negative yet the market votes with dollars and by that measure iPad has been very successful. So maybe he is feeling his mortality or maybe not but he certainly has a feel for what people want.
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and wants to force another revolutionary product out before the end. He thinks the magical iPad is it, but it ain't. Not by a long shot.
By any measure the iPad has been a wild success for Apple. As to what Steve thinks of iPad, realize it is only one element of a very interesting line up of products. I don't think it is his desire to force anything except for possible good design. In the end he can only guide Apple to make the best products they can. After that the market takes over.
IPad is revolutionary if you step back and look at what it is doing to the market. It trashed netbook sales for one. It has caused many manufactures to rethink their tablet plans and at the same time has spurred the development of new OSes to compete with iPad.
Revolution or not what is notable here is that this was all done with a marginal platform or a very rev one device. That should be considered amayzing in and of itself. After all who would have thought that any modern tablet could be successful with only a 120MB or so of RAM available to the installed apps? Even worst non paged RAM for data.
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Care to argue the point? As if you could anonymoose.
Unfortunately we loose focus again.
In any event iPad isn't designed for the needs of every potential user. It is designed to reliably serve the needs of a large number of users. That it does very well.
I'm not surprised at all that it sells well. There are many positives when buying into iPad and the app store and iTunes infrastructure around it. Obviously it isn't for you but it is a wonderful thing for many.
USA was the last paper I subscribed to. But it became so pro-Obama I had to bail. It was mostly fluff anyway. I think people want news, features, etc. without the political spin.
Besides, Safari ain't the best browser in the world anyway. Half the time on my real Mac I get an error message about missing mime plug in's, whatever they are. So I fire up FireFox and get on with business. Can't do that with an iPad, can you?
Wow wait a moment, Firefox is terrible on my mac. It is wonderful on Windows but the Mac OS X port is garbage. It doesn't recognize the build in Java of Mac OS and gives me spinning wheels a lot. Also I doesn't have a good spellcheck which is crucial in my opinion..
I was a huge proponent of Firefox in its early day and got everybody around me to switch, but when I got my first mac I switched away from it within 2 weeks.
Since Safari 5 came out I mainly use it because I cannot live without extensions and Chromium did give me some rendering problems at that time. (Didn't want to use Chrome because of privacy issues)
Never looked back though - I have to say that with Adblock, Click-to-flash, Youtube5 and AutoPagerize I now have a better experience in Safari than I had in Firefox back in the days.
And while I'm in the library doing al that research, where will you be? Out having a good time on your day off?
Then:
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Naah, I think I'll go out and have a good day while you fanbois keep the flames going without me. Enjoy your time alone cause I will be BACK! I'm going to the beach now. Chow.
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I've been reading AppleInsider for years, AI really needs to create a community spam/troll list so that people with history of this are automatically hidden from public (non-login viewers). Why? Because I don't log in when I read the comments, which means I have to read over all the trolls comments as well. AI is big enough that it doesn't need to tolerate all the extra baggage of trolls.
Yeah right. How many iPad owners had to put down their shiny new glass tools and grab a real computer to watch the Glenn Beck festival in Washington? No flash, no deal.
The Journal on the iPad is the slowest, buggiest, most locked-in app of the lot.
I happen to think it's shockingly poorly implemented, but I am just one data point.
You have got to be kidding.
Not only is the WSJ content the best; it is the easiest to navigate and the organization is second to none.
The NYT is crippled because they can not publish the whole paper because of contractual obligations. USA Today is colorful and free but it's a small paper, some of the same articles are repeated in different sections on the iPad.
WSJ on the iPad is the full paper and it is cheap compared to the newsstand price. The default font is the easiest to read; navigating the articles is awesome and all the pictures are included off-line. You have access to a week's worth of papers plus a "now" paper as it is being written. You can save articles that you like etc...
WSJ has the best content, easiest to navigate, most up to date news, best archiving feature. It is not free but it is well worth the price.
I am not ruining the discussion on this site. I am saving this forum by providing insightful commentary rather than blind worship for the great God Jobs.
I wonder here if you are really being delusional/megalomaniacal, or if this is just more of your trolling technique. Did you apprentice under someone or are you self taught? You do certainly seem to get a high off your acting out. Is this simply a manic phase or are you always like this? Have you ever killed someone, or maybe a domestic animal?
No, you need me on this forum. That is why I am holding back and not calling you what you really are. Don't want to be banned for name calling as I realize what a capital offense it is here.
You fanbois are very sensitive, aren't you? Please don't cry.
You seem quite young, obviously immature, if you seek professional help now you might be able to live a happy, normal life. And no, the one you're living now isn't normal, and it's obvious you aren't happy.
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Most people don't even know Apple makes computers.
- I would disagree on this point. Care to link to any recent data that would show this? I call BS on this.
Mention Snow Leopard or Time Capsule or even iMac's to the average consumer and they don't know what you're talking about any more than they know what Flash or Real Player is.
- I disagree on the point of iMac, Flash and Real Player. If you have any data other than your anecdotal experiences then I would look at it. People tend to know Real Player if they've ever had to use it because it tends to be annoying (like Flash it draws attention to itself) and causes the user to do something (like download a plugin). It's pretty clear on websites what's a flash website and what isn't. Average consumer would know Flash (#1), iMac (#2 - my guess), and Real Player (#3). I wouldn't expect a consumer to know Snow Leopard or Time Capsule.
Most people I know can barely open an email or find a web page without getting into trouble.
That's pretty meaningless because I know lots of people who aren't very computer literate but have no problems emailing and web browsing. Oddly enough, things the iPad also excels at - go figure why their is such a large market for it!
I'm thoroughly exhausted from thrashing your posts and I am going to bed now. Have a pleasant night Mr. Talon.
Trolls don't sleep. They simply log into other user accounts.
No one visits Apple's website but geeks like us. Everyone else gets their Apple products from Best Buy and Wal Mart.
Wrong, millions of people every day visit the Apple website. It's one of the most successful/popular retail websites out there.
Sorry for the multiple replies but I don't know how to answer all your incorrect points at the same time. Just call me an attention craving troll if you like.
Certainly, you are an attention craving troll Blackintosh. It makes no difference to me if you respond in multiple replies or in a single organized reply like I do.
We are talking about the iPad, not the phone. As I said twice before and will say again, if Flash is going to suck my battery dry then I don't want to use it on a phone. But an iPad is meant to be used at home with Wi Fi. I have 110 volt plug outlets in my home so all the excuses for not having Flash do not apply to the iPad.
It sounds like you use your iPad primarily plugged into a wall outlet like a computer rather than a mobile device as it was intended. Therefore, the same arguments that applied for the iPhone apply for the iPad. Being mobile means battery life restrictions. You've defeated the purpose of the iPad being a mobile device if you use it continuously plugged into a wall outlet. That's fine, it's just not how it was designed, nor how most non-geeks unlike yourself would use such a product.
So why can't the iPad have Flash? Because this is a personal issue between Apple and Adobe.
Not at all, it was a simple business issue. If and when Adobe creates a Flash plugin that works efficiently on mobile touchscreen devices that can display the current web content created for Flash desktop, then it will be introduced. They have still yet to deliver it. As I said, go to Macrumors.com for the hit or miss review on it with Android phones.
Besides, Safari ain't the best browser in the world anyway. Half the time on my real Mac I get an error message about missing mime plug in's, whatever they are. So I fire up FireFox and get on with business. Can't do that with an iPad, can you?
There are other web browsers for the iPad and iPhone if you care to download them like you did on your Mac. I recommend iCab internet browser as an alternative: http://www.icab.de/ .
And why not? Does Steve Jobs hate Modzilla the way he hates Verizon and Matte screens and physical buttons and USB 3 and Blu Ray???
You sound like you know what Steve Jobs hates. But it is already abundantly clear that you cannot separate logical business decision making skills from your emotions to see clearly. Links for where he says he hates the above or no dice.
If I go to a website I expect everything to work. Period. If I click a link to see a video clip of Lady Gaga, I don't want to see some message telling me to download flash when I can't.
Youtube.com > search: Lady Gaga. Done. Works perfectly it seems.
If I go to a site that has music samples, I expect them to play. I don't want to see a message saying I need to download Realplayer when I can't.
Those websites can decide to negotiate contracts that enable them to use standards but they don't. Unfortunate for them to limit themselves in that regard and inconvenience potential customers.
I stand by what I initially said. The average Joe has no idea what flash is or what it does.
Far from shown or proven. Is there even an internet survey you could link to? Gosh, I know tons of people who know what Flash is and are average Joe's. I know so many that my anecdotal evidence of knowing people now outweighs yours! I hope your beginning to see they way you argue - with anecdotal evidence - doesn't end up anywhere...
Apple has always done a good job of making the underpinnings of OSX as transparent as possible. How many printer drivers came with Leopard? How many fonts? All so you as the end user won't have to be bothered with downloading stuff and you can get on with your life.
All quite irrelevant in this case, it's like comparing Apple's to Oranges.
Then iOS came along. Horrible hobbled experience. And why you guys want to see it on the Mac and the Apple TV is beyond my ability to comprehend.
Sorry you don't like iOS devices that you supposedly continue to buy, own and operate of your own free will and money?
It's becoming harder and harder to make money with the print model, so they need to do this to stay afloat.
That being said, they are putting all of their eggs into one basket with their USA Today app for iPad...and it's buggy. It crashes on me at least once every session. Hopefully they focus on fixing things like this.
Okay, let's start at the top. The market the iPad is aimed at is internet and email. You can't see 75 percent (Walt Mossberg's figure) of the internet. Not good.
Flash may be outdated proprietary software but it is needed to visit websites. If you don't have you can't see it.
I never said I wanted to edit HD content. You made that up. But since you mentioned it, why is there iMovie for the phone and not the iPad?
And don't call me stupid or I will have you BANNED. Like I was for name calling. BANNED!!!! BANNED!!!!!
Mossberg said something about 75 percent of video content, not the entire web.
While I'm at it, just for the record, what major content can't I view on ipad? YouTube? Hulu? Netflix? Facebook? Any accessible, professionally coded site? I don't have the flash plug in on any of my devices, Windows or Mac and I've yet to be unable to view any content that. Is of interest to me without it.
Back on track, even usa today get it. Why can't you.
You're not even stating your opinion, you just talk crap in order to evoke reaction. Everyone here knows it. You ruin discussion for other site users.
Not the point. The point is you can't do something you might otherwise want to do.
Yes but whos fault is that? Can you really blame Apple for rejecting something that has never worked well in mobile space. Or for that matter never worked well on Macs.
You would have a good case if you could produce examples of flash working well on smart phones but you can't because it doesn't exist. Hardware simply can't support what flash demands.
Not because the technology doesn't exist.
Ok show us where the technology is viable. Really especially at the time of iPhones introduction or on the memory constrained devices that followed. To take a decision made three years ago and apply it to Adobe's half assed solution they are shipping now is a waste of time.
But because the CEO of the company has a personal issue with Adobe.
You have no evidence to support that statement. Especially when it is clear that Adobe never has had and currently doesn't have a viable solution. Don't bother posting back about flash on Android as that just makes you look stupid.
Dave
Okay, let's start at the top. The market the iPad is aimed at is internet and email. You can't see 75 percent (Walt Mossberg's figure) of the internet. Not good.
Flash may be outdated proprietary software but it is needed to visit websites. If you don't have you can't see it.
Doesn't matter because flash doesn't work on the current generation of cell phone hardware. You are constantly acting as if flash is viable on these device when in reality it is not.
Now what do you call some one that makes decisions counter to all of the evidence available to him?
I never said I wanted to edit HD content. You made that up. But since you mentioned it, why is there iMovie for the phone and not the iPad?
I don't know what Apple is thinking but consider a few possibilities:
1.
IPad doesn't have enough RAM.
2.
IPad doesn't have a video camera.
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IPad is running an interim OS thus maybe Apple is waiting for APIs to become available.
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Apple knows they can tweak Blackintosh by keep the software off iPad.
And don't call me stupid or I will have you BANNED. Like I was for name calling. BANNED!!!! BANNED!!!!!
First off if this thread is any indication name calling was just an excuse to get this crap of yours off the forum for awhile. There simply is no excuse for the garbage that you have left in this thread. The fact is if you keep it up nobody will want you on this forum.
In any event if you don't want to be called stupid supply us with a suitable descriptor. Do you need a list?
Dave
I assume you're either thirteen or retarded? Troll. You're not even stating your opinion, you just talk crap in order to evoke reaction. Everyone here knows it. You ruin discussion for other site users.
Well, good morning. How nice to hear from you,.
I am not ruining the discussion on this site. I am saving this forum by providing insightful commentary rather than blind worship for the great God Jobs. Just because I don't think everything Apple does is magical and revolutionary doesn't make me a troll.
No, you need me on this forum. That is why I am holding back and not calling you what you really are. Don't want to be banned for name calling as I realize what a capital offense it is here.
You fanbois are very sensitive, aren't you? Please don't cry.
- I would disagree on this point.
- I disagree on the point of iMac, Flash and Real Player.
That's pretty meaningless
Wrong.
Certainly, you are an attention craving troll Blackintosh.
Not at all,
no dice.
Far from shown or proven.
All quite irrelevant in this case, it's like comparing Apple's to Oranges.
Whew! Looks like I totally struck out with you there fingernails. Er, excuse me, Talon. I love the way you want me to spend all day providing data and statistics to back up my Apple observations which are common sense to anyone with eyes and ears. And while I'm in the library doing al that research, where will you be? Out having a good time on your day off?
Naah, I think I'll go out and have a good day while you fanbois keep the flames going without me. Enjoy your time alone cause I will be BACK!
And just for the record, when YouTube had the complete Lady GAGA Beyonce Telephone video, it was not available on the mobile version, as well as complete episodes of classic TV shows. iPhone YouTube is not the same thing as the regular site. Go look it up. That's YOUR homework for today. I'm going to the beach now. Chow.
Really simple actually. I'm a normal regular person. I see Apple for what it is. A company. Not my friend or my family. I see Steve Jobs for who he is. A CEO, not a God.
Actually I wish more people in this forum where equally like minded. As such though you should realize that Apple strives to make decisions in its best interest. Thus the decision years ago not to crap iOS with flash.
I have a realistic view of Apple and it's products. I think the Mac OS is the best thing they make, iLife is terrific and the iPhone is like my third hand.
Yes Mac OS/X is pretty damn good, so good that iOS is derived from it. However iOS is tailored for a completely different market.
But lately Apple has taken a turn for the weird. Glass iPhones, ultra glossy iMac screens,
What is the problem with either one of them? Seriously if you think a glass iPhone is a mistake buy a 3GS. As fr the glossy screen whine enough already, the market has pretty much proven that the overwhelming majority like such screens.
crippled devices like the iPad and so on.
Crippled isn't the word many would use. Rather they seeit as the first tablet that works well. Besides I'm not going to defend iPad as I see the lack of RAM on the device as a reason not to buy. I don't call it crippled but rather see it as a rev 1 device that doesn't meet my needs. For others it is an ideal device.
Oh and the lack of flash isn't a sign that the device is crippled at all. Rather it is a sign that somebody is taking a stand against crap software.
I think Steve Jobs has lost his mind lately, either due to his medications (that's my excuse)
Jobs didn't create the iTunes/app store environment in a vacuum, many very smart people at Apple put this altogether. Nothing in this world is perfect but frankly I've had pretty positive results from these services. In any event Steve is only the head of the company, not every idea is his, it is his job to make any ideas pursued successful though. Sometimes that involves being an excellent salesman. App store and iTunes though pretty much sell themselves these days.
or because he is feeling his mortality
This is an interesting comment as history is full of people that have come back from a near death experience and enjoyed great success. I not going to dive into the psychology behind this but it does happen.
You seem to take this additional focus as a negative yet the market votes with dollars and by that measure iPad has been very successful. So maybe he is feeling his mortality or maybe not but he certainly has a feel for what people want.
and wants to force another revolutionary product out before the end. He thinks the magical iPad is it, but it ain't. Not by a long shot.
By any measure the iPad has been a wild success for Apple. As to what Steve thinks of iPad, realize it is only one element of a very interesting line up of products. I don't think it is his desire to force anything except for possible good design. In the end he can only guide Apple to make the best products they can. After that the market takes over.
IPad is revolutionary if you step back and look at what it is doing to the market. It trashed netbook sales for one. It has caused many manufactures to rethink their tablet plans and at the same time has spurred the development of new OSes to compete with iPad.
Revolution or not what is notable here is that this was all done with a marginal platform or a very rev one device. That should be considered amayzing in and of itself. After all who would have thought that any modern tablet could be successful with only a 120MB or so of RAM available to the installed apps? Even worst non paged RAM for data.
Care to argue the point? As if you could anonymoose.
Unfortunately we loose focus again.
In any event iPad isn't designed for the needs of every potential user. It is designed to reliably serve the needs of a large number of users. That it does very well.
I'm not surprised at all that it sells well. There are many positives when buying into iPad and the app store and iTunes infrastructure around it. Obviously it isn't for you but it is a wonderful thing for many.
Dave
Besides, Safari ain't the best browser in the world anyway. Half the time on my real Mac I get an error message about missing mime plug in's, whatever they are. So I fire up FireFox and get on with business. Can't do that with an iPad, can you?
Wow wait a moment, Firefox is terrible on my mac. It is wonderful on Windows but the Mac OS X port is garbage. It doesn't recognize the build in Java of Mac OS and gives me spinning wheels a lot. Also I doesn't have a good spellcheck which is crucial in my opinion..
I was a huge proponent of Firefox in its early day and got everybody around me to switch, but when I got my first mac I switched away from it within 2 weeks.
Since Safari 5 came out I mainly use it because I cannot live without extensions and Chromium did give me some rendering problems at that time. (Didn't want to use Chrome because of privacy issues)
Never looked back though - I have to say that with Adblock, Click-to-flash, Youtube5 and AutoPagerize I now have a better experience in Safari than I had in Firefox back in the days.
And while I'm in the library doing al that research, where will you be? Out having a good time on your day off?
Then:
Naah, I think I'll go out and have a good day while you fanbois keep the flames going without me. Enjoy your time alone cause I will be BACK! I'm going to the beach now. Chow.
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I've been reading AppleInsider for years, AI really needs to create a community spam/troll list so that people with history of this are automatically hidden from public (non-login viewers). Why? Because I don't log in when I read the comments, which means I have to read over all the trolls comments as well. AI is big enough that it doesn't need to tolerate all the extra baggage of trolls.
Yeah right. How many iPad owners had to put down their shiny new glass tools and grab a real computer to watch the Glenn Beck festival in Washington? No flash, no deal.
Screw the Apple walled garden.
Perhaps none?
The Journal on the iPad is the slowest, buggiest, most locked-in app of the lot.
I happen to think it's shockingly poorly implemented, but I am just one data point.
You have got to be kidding.
Not only is the WSJ content the best; it is the easiest to navigate and the organization is second to none.
The NYT is crippled because they can not publish the whole paper because of contractual obligations. USA Today is colorful and free but it's a small paper, some of the same articles are repeated in different sections on the iPad.
WSJ on the iPad is the full paper and it is cheap compared to the newsstand price. The default font is the easiest to read; navigating the articles is awesome and all the pictures are included off-line. You have access to a week's worth of papers plus a "now" paper as it is being written. You can save articles that you like etc...
WSJ has the best content, easiest to navigate, most up to date news, best archiving feature. It is not free but it is well worth the price.
Really simple actually. I'm a normal regular person. ...
Well, clearly that's not true, but your response does tell us that either you aren't aware of your pathology or that you aren't being honest.
I am annihilating you tonight. ...
... with possible delusions of grandeur/megalomania
I am not ruining the discussion on this site. I am saving this forum by providing insightful commentary rather than blind worship for the great God Jobs.
I wonder here if you are really being delusional/megalomaniacal, or if this is just more of your trolling technique. Did you apprentice under someone or are you self taught? You do certainly seem to get a high off your acting out. Is this simply a manic phase or are you always like this? Have you ever killed someone, or maybe a domestic animal?
No, you need me on this forum. That is why I am holding back and not calling you what you really are. Don't want to be banned for name calling as I realize what a capital offense it is here.
You fanbois are very sensitive, aren't you? Please don't cry.
You seem quite young, obviously immature, if you seek professional help now you might be able to live a happy, normal life. And no, the one you're living now isn't normal, and it's obvious you aren't happy.
I love it that you were all talking about ME while I was gone. I really do rule this forum. Thank you all for being my fans!