Deranged man attacks people in Manhattan bar...
<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,55434,00.html"; target="_blank">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,55434,00.html</a>;
As much as I want to comment on this, I'm going to hold off for a bit...
I'll leave you with this: THANK GOD the races weren't reversed in this incident (white guy shooting up black bar). Could you IMAGINE the fallout and hysteria going on right now?
This is like that guy (was it Ferguson?) a few years ago, who shot all those people on that train. Was it Boston? I can't remember.
As much as I want to comment on this, I'm going to hold off for a bit...
I'll leave you with this: THANK GOD the races weren't reversed in this incident (white guy shooting up black bar). Could you IMAGINE the fallout and hysteria going on right now?
This is like that guy (was it Ferguson?) a few years ago, who shot all those people on that train. Was it Boston? I can't remember.
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Why do I have the feeling that Al Sharpton already has an inflammatory, anti-NYPD speech ready to go, and he's just looking for a microphone and camera to deliver it?
You KNOW he will too!
"Uh, the PO-lice did NOT have to shoot that man...he was no danger to anyone whatsoever. I'm appalled by the raci..." [snip...someone lobs a banana cream pie at the idiot]
You just can't make this stuff up
<strong>^ silly conservatives.
I don't know, sjpsu...I don't think I'm putting TOO long a tail on that kite. Sharpton has been known, from time to time, to get on the wrong/lame side of an argument or issue and "fan some flames" a little bit.
Has less to do with being "conservative" (as if that's somehow automatically evil) than simply watching and reading about this man for the past 10-15 years, and noticing patterns and certain behaviors.
I mean, I'm more abused by having to hear his music or see his messed-up face on a tabloid.
I think he's just upset because he can't top "Thriller", he's a freak that nobody likes anymore and his stuff is really dated and tired. He's mad because his last album and TV special tanked. It's not the record industry's fault he's irrelevant and embarrassing.
<strong>applenut, are you serious? </strong><hr></blockquote>
unfortunately, very serious.
<a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/today/New_York_Now/Music/a-154539.asp"; target="_blank">http://www.nydailynews.com/today/New_York_Now/Music/a-154539.asp</a>;
"Does wittle Don Henwey have a gweivance...there, there...".
I'm really sorry, but this is one of those situations where it's a bit tough to get behind or get too worked up over the "deplorable" conditions in the lives of Henley, Springsteen, Jackson, etc.
Jeez.
Must be REALLY tough. Tell you what, Mr. Desperado, come work in a paper mill for $11/hour or clean the grease traps at Burger King at 2am and worry about how you're going to pay July's rent and feed your family, dipshits.
Suddenly, sitting in a hearing room with your "serious artist" eyeglasses on, a bottle of $6 mineral water and whining about how you're somehow getting dicked over by The Man doesn't seem THAT important, does it?
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You forgot paedophile. And we actually entertained the sicko at our Houses of Parliament just the other day. Shame on us...
At least tomorrow ... please?
As for Michael Jackson, clearly anyone with billions of dollars is suffering greatly at the hands of the man. Don Henley must've spent all the royalities he earned from "Hell Freezes Over", huh?
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Far out, man.
No if if had been reversed the guns and sword would have been replaced by Pipe Bombs
[quote] You forgot paedophile. And we actually entertained the sicko at our Houses of Parliament just the other day. Shame on us... <hr></blockquote>
You mean "Alleged" Paedophile. You may have your opinions but unless a person is convicted in a court of law they are just as free as you. I could equally call you a Paedophile.
As for the Music Industry. I don't blame Henley for complaining that he's being used by the Music Industry. Everyone knows that. It IS a Business.
That is not entirely correct. You could not call him a pedophile unless some credible accusations were made against him like in the case of Michael Jackson. We all know that the criminal justice system is not perfect. Hell OJ is free.
<strong>You mean "Alleged" Paedophile. You may have your opinions but unless a person is convicted in a court of law they are just as free as you. I could equally call you a Paedophile.
That is not entirely correct. You could not call him a pedophile unless some credible accusations were made against him like in the case of Michael Jackson. We all know that the criminal justice system is not perfect. Hell OJ is free.</strong><hr></blockquote>
"Credible" is the operative word here. Our Judicial System is really the only Credible source as a Felony Conviction will bar you from employment among other things.
Unfortunately the Court of Public Opinion is becoming far too dominant a force. Being that I have Lawyers in my immediate Family it scares me about just how little the average American knows about Law and our Justice System. OJ was a debacle to be sure but there are issues on a MUCH larger scale that undermine the persuit of justice that occur on an everyday basis.
the only racism I see is right here at home: I just went to breakfast at a restauraunt in town... one of my favorite places... and the waitress... a poor white, obviously had a rough life, woman started railing non stop in a venomous voice and throwing **** around because she had to wait on a family of obviously well-off black people and they dared to ask her to take something back to the kitchen . . . it was so obviouse that she couldn't handle the reversals of expected fortune.
She made all the other costomers very uncomfortable . . .she almost splashed me with orange juice as she threw a cup in the sink . . . If I was the manager she would have been fired immediately . . she obviously never heard of "the costomer is always right"
It was never expressed that it was due to the race differences but it was so obviouse . . . she was livid for reasons that are truly trivial . . any food service worker deals with that stuff all the time
and, I can tell you, most black people have to deal with that kind of stuff all the time.
Also, I have to say that I too don't like the opportunism of either Jackson or Sharpton, but I find it kind of weird how much people hereabouts are jumping on something that hasn't happened . . .its maybe an instance where you could say something like "methinks thou doth protest too much" (or is too mucheth)
Nevertheless, this deranged man is a racist and he attempted murder and will go to jail as he should. Sharpton and Jackson are oppurtunists, and still, despite that, racism is a reality (as seen in the case of 'deranged' man) where the races are prejudged on merits of race.
Unfortunately, dispite all the cavelier talk of how blacks are quick to yell "racism" on these boards, the reality is still that racism is entrenched in our culture (despite an incredible forward movement towards openness on all fronts) and the balances are weighd against blacks more so than whites. Its a complex issue, and the manner in which it should best be handled, is even more complex . . . but it does exist in innumerable subtle and not so subtle ways, and one thing is for sure as far as ways to act, we should not deny that we all are harmed by its existence.
In other words, I can STILL realize and acknowledge that "racism exists" (no kidding!) and STILL rag on Jackson, Sharpton, etc. for being opportunistic pot-stirrers and flame fanners.
One doesn't mean the other can't be true...and never said it did. As far as getting worked up over "something that hasn't happened yet", true. But it isn't quite over "yet". Nothing surprises me anymore, anyway.
And even IF I mis-called this ONE situation (in other words, Sharpton DOESN'T come out and make an ass of himself as he's done many times in the past), well then we can't all be perfect.
But I think I'm going on a pretty good track record, regarding Sharpton and them. When was the last time anything happened in NYC that remotely involved a "black/white" issue that he (or others like him) didn't get completely immersed in?