Chinese lawsuit seeks to invalidate Apple's iPhone design patents

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in iPhone edited January 2014
As Apple looks to halt the sales of Meizu's iPhone lookalike in China, the company must now defend its patented iPhone design from a new lawsuit.



According to The Beijing Times, Luoen Network Information has sued Apple over the design of the iPhone, alleging that the patents owned by the company in China are invalid. As translated by MeizuMe, Chinese law makes it possible only to apply for product-specific patents.



"If one applies for a patent covering different types of products, the patent will be invalid," the report said.



Apple's patents reportedly covered three products originally. When it was discovered Apple did not specify a product, the nation's patent bureau helped the company register the filing for the iPhone.



Apple's patent applies to the shape of the iPhone -- rectangular with round edges, a vertical display, and the singular home button. But Luoen Network Information hopes to prove in its lawsuit that Apple's patented design is too broad. It also argued that MP3 players and phones released before the iPhone had a similar design.



The report noted that the outcome could have an impact on Apple's own pursuit to halt the sale of the Meizu M8 smartphone. Apple has aggressively sought to cease the sale of knock-off products, which are prevalent in China, and attempted to prove in court that the M8 has "an appearance roughly similar" to the iPhone.
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  • Reply 1 of 39
    irnchrizirnchriz Posts: 1,617member
    Unless these small companies like Meizu pump loads of cash into the Chinese governments hands Apple will easily defend this.
  • Reply 2 of 39
    Never trust China with any type of American product these days! They are trying to undermine the American dollar in so many ways that it is just criminal.



    This case is just a further example of how the Chinese government is overstepping its boundaries once again. Apple is an American company and therefore should be able to produce by American laws.
  • Reply 3 of 39
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    Originally Posted by Crtaylor View Post


    Apple is an American company and therefore should be able to produce by American laws.



    If Apple wants to sell only in America, then certainly.
  • Reply 4 of 39
    This is old news from May:



    http://www.chinaipr.gov.cn/casesarti.../649189_1.html



    They wanted to block it from being awarded by citing LG and Dopod.



    The Patent office didn't concur.



    So now they are suing.



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopod



    Quote:

    Dopod (多普達) is a Taiwan-based manufacturer of Windows Mobile smartphones, operating in the South East Asia and Australasia. Dopod International was founded in 2004 and it is now directly owned by the Taiwanese Windows Mobile device manufacturer HTC with over 50% of shares (acquired on June 2, 2006). It has manufacturing bases in Taiwan and Wuhan, China.



    In other words, HTC is suing Apple to try and invalidate their patents and thus try to get leverage because Apple is suing the crap out of HTC.
  • Reply 5 of 39
    Looks like China is upset that they can't create knockoffs of the iPhone, like they do with every other product.
  • Reply 6 of 39
    Wouldn't it be nice if Jobs pulled the rug out from under the Chinese and moved manufacturing to India? The Chinese are the BIGGEST rip-off artists (one can put a case for plagiarism being the greatest flattery)...the Chinese public marvel, admire, ,and hold to the highest esteem Apple products (you should see the looks of curiosity and hear the compliments I get everywhere i break out my iPad, my i this, and i that)...anyway, ,you all should see the blatant design stealing, logo stealing...i can go on...all the people who visit China write about how wonderful everything is here...they don't stick around long enough to see past the illusion...America, and the world for that matter, have to stand up to the two face bullying tactics that China employs to get it's way...don't believe the hype...and NEVER count America out!
  • Reply 7 of 39
    I am sick and tired of all the jail broken goings on here too...aren't there ANY ways to stop it's rampant entrenchment...free is cool, but you know what? I pay for my stuff as a way to reward and recognize creativity and innovation in apps that i enjoy
  • Reply 8 of 39
    jon tjon t Posts: 131member
    China is fast becoming the world's biggest problem.
  • Reply 9 of 39
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Crtaylor View Post


    Never trust China with any type of American product these days! They are trying to undermine the American dollar in so many ways that it is just criminal.



    This case is just a further example of how the Chinese government is overstepping its boundaries once again. Apple is an American company and therefore should be able to produce by American laws.



    American laws only apply in America, and rightly so. The clue is in the name. America doesn't own China, it just gets them to build it's goods for it.
  • Reply 10 of 39
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Crtaylor View Post


    This case is just a further example of how the Chinese government is overstepping its boundaries once again. Apple is an American company and therefore should be able to produce by American laws.



    Given how you disapprove of Chinese policy, I don't think you'd like the parallel of your suggestion where Chinese companies only need to obey Chinese laws.
  • Reply 11 of 39
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    Originally Posted by Xiaohuzi View Post


    I am sick and tired of all the jail broken goings on here too...aren't there ANY ways to stop it's rampant entrenchment...free is cool, but you know what? I pay for my stuff as a way to reward and recognize creativity and innovation in apps that i enjoy



    Sorry, you fail.



    Stop making assumptions about jailbreaking devices. NOT EVERYONE WHO JAILBREAKS STEALS SOFTWARE!
  • Reply 12 of 39
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Xiaohuzi View Post


    Wouldn't it be nice if Jobs pulled the rug out from under the Chinese and moved manufacturing to India? The Chinese are the BIGGEST rip-off artists (one can put a case for plagiarism being the greatest flattery)...the Chinese public marvel, admire, ,and hold to the highest esteem Apple products (you should see the looks of curiosity and hear the compliments I get everywhere i break out my iPad, my i this, and i that)...anyway, ,you all should see the blatant design stealing, logo stealing...i can go on...all the people who visit China write about how wonderful everything is here...they don't stick around long enough to see past the illusion...America, and the world for that matter, have to stand up to the two face bullying tactics that China employs to get it's way...don't believe the hype...and NEVER count America out!



    Nice post. Agree with everything you say.



    Hope you're doing it from a hidden/masked IP address!
  • Reply 13 of 39
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    Originally Posted by PersonMan View Post


    Sorry, you fail.



    Stop making assumptions about jailbreaking devices. NOT EVERYONE WHO JAILBREAKS STEALS SOFTWARE!



    Sure, not everyone. What proportion do you guess does?
  • Reply 14 of 39
    kmareikmarei Posts: 179member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jon T View Post


    China is fast becoming the world's biggest problem.



    well if it wasn't for china lending money to the US, and bankrolling its economy

    the US might be very different than what you see around you now
  • Reply 15 of 39
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Crtaylor View Post


    Never trust China with any type of American product these days! They are trying to undermine the American dollar in so many ways that it is just criminal.



    This case is just a further example of how the Chinese government is overstepping its boundaries once again. Apple is an American company and therefore should be able to produce by American laws.



    You do realize that the US govt has been selling its debt to China right? You have no clue what you are talking about. Please stop...
  • Reply 16 of 39
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Crtaylor View Post


    Apple is an American company and therefore should be able to produce by American laws.



    would it also be ok for Chinese companies to be held by chinese laws?

    would you really like to be eating in plates made to chinese spec?

    do you want your kids to play with toys made by chinese standards?

    or would you rather they are held by US laws and not put lead in their paint for the toys



    up to you
  • Reply 17 of 39
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    Originally Posted by sapporobabyrtrns View Post


    You do realize that the US govt has been selling its debt to China right? You have no clue what you are talking about. Please stop...



    I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. It doesn't justify the rampant IP theft that goes on in the country.



    Besides, where else is China going to park 1.7 trillion dollars? And if they never put it in the US, maybe American spending would have been brought under control by now. This is of course negated by all the damage China has done to the world economy by pegging their yuan.



    I would say China is already the worlds biggest problem.
  • Reply 18 of 39
    cnocbuicnocbui Posts: 3,613member
    Time to switch all manufacturing of all Apple products to India I think. Surely Apple has enough money to build the requisite factories.
  • Reply 19 of 39
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    Originally Posted by the cool gut View Post


    I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. It doesn't justify the rampant IP theft that goes on in the country.



    Besides, where else is China going to park 1.7 trillion dollars? And if they never put it in the US, maybe American spending would have been brought under control by now. This is of course negated by all the damage China has done to the world economy by pegging their yuan.



    I would say China is already the worlds biggest problem.



    Don't blame China for taking money from all the countries and corporations that use them.

    blame the corporations that have sold out for bigger profit margins....
  • Reply 20 of 39
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    Originally Posted by screamingfist View Post


    Don't blame China for taking money from all the countries and corporations that use them.

    blame the corporations that have sold out for bigger profit margins....



    You my friend have NAILED it! Apple has no one to blame but itself for manufacturing their products in China.



    The Chinese don't have many original ideas, they simply take what they learn from the global corporations that manufacture there and end up producing knock-offs.



    It will only stop when the corporate greed does...
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