IN terms of important advantages of other systems that are changed in new model (page 1) you forget to mention the notifications system. This was a major complaint that was fixed in iOS 5.
Actually that section mentions "its modal notifications system" as being one of the top three things addressed in iOS 5.
I'd bet my house if the 4S was available with the current screen size as well as a 4" (almost) edge-to-edge version that the 4" version would sell better.
You are missing an accounting of some peripheral realities. First off, adding a 4" screen that goes "edge to edge" is easy to produce in Photoshop, but a little more difficult to engineer in the real world. Plus you have to develop the tools (or the skilled workforce) to produce such a device.
Then you have to consider how that feature will impact production. Will it be possible to find a reliable source of those screens? Will manufacturing issues derail production or hold back the volume of devices that can be produced, or change the speed at which production can be increased (if you've underestimated demand) or decreased (if you've overshot)? Or will you be stuck with nonstandard parts you can't sell (like HP)?
When you take your arm-chair punditry into the real world, you have to account for actual issues, which is why people doing the work at Apple make money while you earn nothing for contributing your uninformed opinions in comments on a review.
Sure, Apple may have attracted additional buyers with a bigger screen. But it also may not have attracted enough new buyers to make the change worth it, and may have actually alienated buyers who don't want a big screen. Those are variables you don't account for.
Does it make two iPhone 4S models, normal and bigger? That would result in doubling the inventory SKUs that Apple has to ship around and manage at every retail store and through every channel partner. Run out of big or end up with too many? Now you're losing money operationally on top of all the work you put into engineering a slightly bigger screen.
It would also tend to make production more expensive, forcing Apple to lose the profit margins that support the hiring of brilliant engineers and the production of world-class software. Sure, Android licensees crank out all manner of screen sizes, but a) they're not making much money, if any (Motorola LOST money last quarter) b) their software is problematic and poorly conceived (browse the web next to an iPhone and this gets pretty obvious quick; Android is not as optimized for any hardware, and hardware fragmentation only makes that problem increasingly difficult to solve c) these phones aren't even supported through their 2 year life span.
When you throw out remedies, filter them for reality to make sure what you are recommending is not worse than the status quo.
Alternatively, you can set Siri to activate when you raise the phone to your mouth, but that didn't seem to always work in testing...
It didn't work because that's not how it's supposed to work. It activates when you raise the phone to your HEAD like you are making a phone call. It uses the accelerometers and proximity sensors to detect that it has been placed against your head, not held in front of you face. Against the head is, by the way, the best position for the noise canceling to work.
This article only serves to confirm that I don't need a 4s. I will just keep the 4 until next release and I'll probably jail break my 3Gs for use when traveling abroad.
Siri seems like another hobby. Could be entertaining but I see it as no better than all the other voice recognition systems out there. I could not put up with all the mistakes. Too frustrating. If a desktop application was that flaky it would have the worst reputation ever. It would be like someone who was proficient in Photoshop having to use MS Paint. Not worth it for me.
I am loving siri so far. I am getting all of the to dos I usually forget en route. I find the accuracy is much higher than the voice commands on my android. And you can actually use punctuation in the dictation. It is a win for me.
But if you are currently on an iphone 4 I'd say wait longer. That is a lot of money to blow for nominal improvements over what you have.
It didn't work because that's not how it's supposed to work. It activates when you raise the phone to your HEAD like you are making a phone call. It uses the accelerometers and proximity sensors to detect that it has been placed against your head, not held in front of you face. Against the head is, by the way, the best position for the noise canceling to work.
So you're saying the phone doesn't respond when you raise it to your face, only when you raise it to your face? Thanks for that awesome bit of troubleshooting.
The problem is that it doesn't always work at all, not whether its raised "properly."
So you're saying the phone doesn't respond when you raise it to your face, only when you raise it to your face? Thanks for that awesome bit of troubleshooting.
The problem is that it doesn't always work at all, not whether its raised "properly."
No. I said it works when you raise it to your head, like you are making a phone call (you know...next to your ear). The AI post says it is supposed to work when you raise it to your mouth. It's not the same.
No. I said it works when you raise it to your head, like you are making a phone call (you know...next to your ear). The AI post says it is supposed to work when you raise it to your mouth. It's not the same.
How does the phone know that is your mouth and not your ear?
It knows because the proximity sensors are located next to the ear speaker. the microphone, on the other hand, is on the bottom. So the only way you could "fool" the proximity sensors with your mouth would be to hold the earpiece to your lips, but then you wouldn't be talking toward the microphone, and the noise canceling wouldn't work well because it's built to work best when the phone is held against your head. Nobody is going to try to talk into the earpiece.
You are missing an accounting of some peripheral realities. First off, adding a 4" screen that goes "edge to edge" is easy to produce in Photoshop, but a little more difficult to engineer in the real world. Plus you have to develop the tools (or the skilled workforce) to produce such a device.
Then you have to consider how that feature will impact production. Will it be possible to find a reliable source of those screens? Will manufacturing issues derail production or hold back the volume of devices that can be produced, or change the speed at which production can be increased (if you've underestimated demand) or decreased (if you've overshot)? Or will you be stuck with nonstandard parts you can't sell (like HP)?
When you take your arm-chair punditry into the real world, you have to account for actual issues, which is why people doing the work at Apple make money while you earn nothing for contributing your uninformed opinions in comments on a review.
Sure, Apple may have attracted additional buyers with a bigger screen. But it also may not have attracted enough new buyers to make the change worth it, and may have actually alienated buyers who don't want a big screen. Those are variables you don't account for.
Does it make two iPhone 4S models, normal and bigger? That would result in doubling the inventory SKUs that Apple has to ship around and manage at every retail store and through every channel partner. Run out of big or end up with too many? Now you're losing money operationally on top of all the work you put into engineering a slightly bigger screen.
It would also tend to make production more expensive, forcing Apple to lose the profit margins that support the hiring of brilliant engineers and the production of world-class software. Sure, Android licensees crank out all manner of screen sizes, but a) they're not making much money, if any (Motorola LOST money last quarter) b) their software is problematic and poorly conceived (browse the web next to an iPhone and this gets pretty obvious quick; Android is not as optimized for any hardware, and hardware fragmentation only makes that problem increasingly difficult to solve c) these phones aren't even supported through their 2 year life span.
When you throw out remedies, filter them for reality to make sure what you are recommending is not worse than the status quo.
Everything you've mentioned is irrelevant.
The review states the fact that a majority of Android phones sold have crap small screens and uses this fact to make the failed logic jump that this means users don't want bigger screens in their phones. I called BS on this.
If the review stated that it didn't really matter what the hardware was in the 4S because people will buy it by the millions anyway, and by not raising the bar too high Apple will make billions more profit from its customers I wouldn't have said anything.
I've got to say that I am really of two minds when it comes to screen size. When I'm holding the device, I'd like the screen to be a little larger...when I have it in my pocket, I want the device to be a little smaller
I think a lot of people would agree with you. The balance is in finding the right size.
So according to Dilger logic the iPhone can't have a larger screen because Android sells a whole heap of BoGo pieces of shit?
I'd love to know since when BoGo pieces of shit have been the bar Apple should aim for.
I'd bet my house if the 4S was available with the current screen size as well as a 4" (almost) edge-to-edge version that the 4" version would sell better.
I for one like the information - it shows that the 'droid crowd talks about screen size like a magic bullet. It is clear here that most 'droid phones are the same or less in screen size as the iPhone. So the "advantage" in needing a larger screen is a figment of the 'droid population as many chose to get phones of lessor screens than the iPhone. When we hear of the massive over take of 'droid swamping the iPhone it is clear that most of this swarm of phones can not take advantage of the ice cream treat that Google has released. This is good data and puts it all in perspective - versus this oddly "all our 'droids" are the same in competition with the iPhone. It ain't so.
I for one like the information - it shows that the 'droid crowd talks about screen size like a magic bullet. It is clear here that most 'droid phones are the same or less in screen size as the iPhone. <==logic fail occured here==> So the "advantage" in needing a larger screen is a figment of the 'droid population as many chose to get phones of lessor screens than the iPhone.
I've highlighted above where you have made an incorrect assumption.
You can't make a call on what people want or is or isn't an "advantage" based on sales. Mac vs PC sales or Ferrari vs Toyota Corolla sales case in point.
DED is only giving half the data (and in a confusing manner at that) on the screen size issue. He doesn't mention that "normal / hpdi"; the 71% part of his pie chart, are defined as screens with physical sizes between 3.5" and 4.3"; all of which are as large, or larger than the iphone display.
Here's the post from the other thread:
Quote:
Originally Posted by majjo
Just read through that section of the article, DED is only giving 1 part of the data.
the 71.9% that he quotes as normal covers screens with sizes between ~3.5" and ~4.3" with pixel densities between ~190 and ~275 dpi. The 4% large screens covers screen sizes from 4.3" to 7"
see:
Also the resolution he quotes are bare minimums required to be labelled as that class of screen, not ranges.
Wow. I never paid much attention to the people calling out DED for spreading misinformation; but after this, I'm definitely taking anything he says with a hefty amount of salt. This also brings into question his ability to actually interpret raw data.
We can also do a quick mental exercise to show that the 4% number is wrong:
The galaxy S2 features a 4.3" screen; which i'm sure you'll agree is on the large side.
Google has claimed 130M android devices in use as of July 2011, with ~500k activations per day. So from that, lets assume that they have added 45M android devices since (15M/month * 3 months), so 175M android devices
10M/175M = 5.7% so already, the 4% claim is in question; and this is just from 1 phone.
edit: I corrected DED to show actual screen sizes and corrected the classification of the iphone4/4S (The iPhone 4 screen is a 3.5" 326 dpi, which if you go by the classifications shown above, is a small or normal size screen with xhdpi):
Okay back to my years with the Noid err I mean Droid. One word: CLUNKY! I have had every single sidekick from the black and white to the LX and finally switched to the G1 when it came out and then to the G2.
The G1 was a pretty nice phone for what it was. It had nice form factor, and a nice design for the slide out keyboard, the little part that stuck out on the bottom where the home keys were was kind of odd and the OS was only okay, but other than that it was pretty good. Then they came out with the G2(that took less than a year for them to discontinue) and the bigger screen. When you first see it, your reaction is "Yeah" then you hold it and it's terrible. It just does not fit right in the hand. Now this could have been just my G2, but i did not like it. It was like going back to the sidekicks again, which were great for their time, but are clunky by design.
The iPhone 4 design, feels so much nicer. It's smooth and feels right, I would be happy forever with the current screen if all the phones feel this good to hold. If they do go larger I will trust them to be able to keep the feel as good as it is.
Just curious, would you have bought if Apple just slapped the iPhone 5 name on this model?
What makes it so compelling to wait for a phone that nobody knows anything about? Do you know for sure what features it will have?
What are you using now?
You don't have to answer, just asking.
I dont feel comfortable buying a phone thats not 4G capable. I'm currently using an Evo and I enjoy the speed and large screen. Battery life is somewhat iffy but with a car charger it's almost a non-issue. I know many people say that 4G infrastructure isn't in place yet blah blah blah. I live in Lafayette, LA and I get a 4G signal throughout most of the city. If I have to swith to 3G when I go out of town I feel like a turtle. I'd be willing to say that I know for sure it will have 4G and a larger screen, at the very least. I had a 3GS that broke internally and I miss it, mostly because of the iTunes integration.
There is no point of an iPhone with 4G. 4G signal is barely available across the globe.
I am very, very satisfied with the new 4S. Everything works instantly! Takes incredible photos, not so much videos. Image stabilization needs working on, I hope it's improvable...
Speaker is much louder and clearer. Vabriation hugely improved, very, very subtle and elegant. Doesn't make any noise anymore. Feelable in my front jeans pocket.
Obviously the screen could be (am/o)LED based... Though I'm staying with iOS. I can't use android. It's weak.
I'm not here to argue, I'm here to say that if you like high quality build device with a best user friendly interface :P go for the 4S. I mean it. Everything works instantly! It's like having SSD 500mb read/write speeds in your computer!
Dan D There is a notion in your article that 4s is not much of an upgrade over iPhone4 ... and since iOS5 is also avail on older phones, 4s is not much added. This is somewhat like folks who bought iPad , then along comes iPad2 ... and you folks write same size screen, blah, blah blah.
But in reality the 4s and iPad2 are spectacular improvements in performance. Dual core vs single core CPU ... and you rarely mention the importance of the huge improvement of the GPU ... up to 7 times the performance. Then there is just a bare mention of the camera improvement. The new 8 meg camera has a much improved optics pkg... the software is awesome, and the picture quality rivals that of many higher end point and shoot. So much so that it is likely to have a major impact on people buying a point and shoot camera. Then, we have Siri ... not only a voice command scheme but a real assistance that does so much more. And there is so much more to come. The 4 doesn't even come close. Then the antenna improvements that iOS5 so nicely switches back and forth to optimize better signal quality. Almost nothing is mentioned about Bluetooth 4.0, the ultra low power wireless feature that will be amazing once there is more of the mating devices (which by the way are coming).
You don't even emphasize that 4s is a universal phone that can work on GSM and CDMA. Naturally the carriers will want to lock down their offerings for the world travelers, but that is a carrier issue, not the phone design issue.
I would recommend selling their 4 and upgrading to 4s and get on board with all the new and exciting features and performance improvements.
The fact that folks don't have to go out a buy new accessories, since all of the iphone 4 accessories fit the 4s perfectly.
Then there are those who comment they will wait for iPhone 5 and they don't even know what they are waiting for. So it goes.
I don't agree that staying with 4 is good enough since they got the upgrade iOS5. With the much better CPU and GPU in 4s you could make better recommendations.
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IN terms of important advantages of other systems that are changed in new model (page 1) you forget to mention the notifications system. This was a major complaint that was fixed in iOS 5.
Actually that section mentions "its modal notifications system" as being one of the top three things addressed in iOS 5.
I'd bet my house if the 4S was available with the current screen size as well as a 4" (almost) edge-to-edge version that the 4" version would sell better.
You are missing an accounting of some peripheral realities. First off, adding a 4" screen that goes "edge to edge" is easy to produce in Photoshop, but a little more difficult to engineer in the real world. Plus you have to develop the tools (or the skilled workforce) to produce such a device.
Then you have to consider how that feature will impact production. Will it be possible to find a reliable source of those screens? Will manufacturing issues derail production or hold back the volume of devices that can be produced, or change the speed at which production can be increased (if you've underestimated demand) or decreased (if you've overshot)? Or will you be stuck with nonstandard parts you can't sell (like HP)?
When you take your arm-chair punditry into the real world, you have to account for actual issues, which is why people doing the work at Apple make money while you earn nothing for contributing your uninformed opinions in comments on a review.
Sure, Apple may have attracted additional buyers with a bigger screen. But it also may not have attracted enough new buyers to make the change worth it, and may have actually alienated buyers who don't want a big screen. Those are variables you don't account for.
Does it make two iPhone 4S models, normal and bigger? That would result in doubling the inventory SKUs that Apple has to ship around and manage at every retail store and through every channel partner. Run out of big or end up with too many? Now you're losing money operationally on top of all the work you put into engineering a slightly bigger screen.
It would also tend to make production more expensive, forcing Apple to lose the profit margins that support the hiring of brilliant engineers and the production of world-class software. Sure, Android licensees crank out all manner of screen sizes, but a) they're not making much money, if any (Motorola LOST money last quarter) b) their software is problematic and poorly conceived (browse the web next to an iPhone and this gets pretty obvious quick; Android is not as optimized for any hardware, and hardware fragmentation only makes that problem increasingly difficult to solve c) these phones aren't even supported through their 2 year life span.
When you throw out remedies, filter them for reality to make sure what you are recommending is not worse than the status quo.
Alternatively, you can set Siri to activate when you raise the phone to your mouth, but that didn't seem to always work in testing...
It didn't work because that's not how it's supposed to work. It activates when you raise the phone to your HEAD like you are making a phone call. It uses the accelerometers and proximity sensors to detect that it has been placed against your head, not held in front of you face. Against the head is, by the way, the best position for the noise canceling to work.
No thanks, I'll wait for iPhone 5
Same here.
6 is just a bad number, no good comes from it.
Apple should skip 6, and go to 7. That would really confuse people.
This article only serves to confirm that I don't need a 4s. I will just keep the 4 until next release and I'll probably jail break my 3Gs for use when traveling abroad.
Siri seems like another hobby. Could be entertaining but I see it as no better than all the other voice recognition systems out there. I could not put up with all the mistakes. Too frustrating. If a desktop application was that flaky it would have the worst reputation ever. It would be like someone who was proficient in Photoshop having to use MS Paint. Not worth it for me.
I am loving siri so far. I am getting all of the to dos I usually forget en route. I find the accuracy is much higher than the voice commands on my android. And you can actually use punctuation in the dictation. It is a win for me.
But if you are currently on an iphone 4 I'd say wait longer. That is a lot of money to blow for nominal improvements over what you have.
It didn't work because that's not how it's supposed to work. It activates when you raise the phone to your HEAD like you are making a phone call. It uses the accelerometers and proximity sensors to detect that it has been placed against your head, not held in front of you face. Against the head is, by the way, the best position for the noise canceling to work.
So you're saying the phone doesn't respond when you raise it to your face, only when you raise it to your face? Thanks for that awesome bit of troubleshooting.
The problem is that it doesn't always work at all, not whether its raised "properly."
So you're saying the phone doesn't respond when you raise it to your face, only when you raise it to your face? Thanks for that awesome bit of troubleshooting.
The problem is that it doesn't always work at all, not whether its raised "properly."
No. I said it works when you raise it to your head, like you are making a phone call (you know...next to your ear). The AI post says it is supposed to work when you raise it to your mouth. It's not the same.
No. I said it works when you raise it to your head, like you are making a phone call (you know...next to your ear). The AI post says it is supposed to work when you raise it to your mouth. It's not the same.
How does the phone know that is your mouth and not your ear?
You are missing an accounting of some peripheral realities. First off, adding a 4" screen that goes "edge to edge" is easy to produce in Photoshop, but a little more difficult to engineer in the real world. Plus you have to develop the tools (or the skilled workforce) to produce such a device.
Then you have to consider how that feature will impact production. Will it be possible to find a reliable source of those screens? Will manufacturing issues derail production or hold back the volume of devices that can be produced, or change the speed at which production can be increased (if you've underestimated demand) or decreased (if you've overshot)? Or will you be stuck with nonstandard parts you can't sell (like HP)?
When you take your arm-chair punditry into the real world, you have to account for actual issues, which is why people doing the work at Apple make money while you earn nothing for contributing your uninformed opinions in comments on a review.
Sure, Apple may have attracted additional buyers with a bigger screen. But it also may not have attracted enough new buyers to make the change worth it, and may have actually alienated buyers who don't want a big screen. Those are variables you don't account for.
Does it make two iPhone 4S models, normal and bigger? That would result in doubling the inventory SKUs that Apple has to ship around and manage at every retail store and through every channel partner. Run out of big or end up with too many? Now you're losing money operationally on top of all the work you put into engineering a slightly bigger screen.
It would also tend to make production more expensive, forcing Apple to lose the profit margins that support the hiring of brilliant engineers and the production of world-class software. Sure, Android licensees crank out all manner of screen sizes, but a) they're not making much money, if any (Motorola LOST money last quarter) b) their software is problematic and poorly conceived (browse the web next to an iPhone and this gets pretty obvious quick; Android is not as optimized for any hardware, and hardware fragmentation only makes that problem increasingly difficult to solve c) these phones aren't even supported through their 2 year life span.
When you throw out remedies, filter them for reality to make sure what you are recommending is not worse than the status quo.
Everything you've mentioned is irrelevant.
The review states the fact that a majority of Android phones sold have crap small screens and uses this fact to make the failed logic jump that this means users don't want bigger screens in their phones. I called BS on this.
If the review stated that it didn't really matter what the hardware was in the 4S because people will buy it by the millions anyway, and by not raising the bar too high Apple will make billions more profit from its customers I wouldn't have said anything.
I've got to say that I am really of two minds when it comes to screen size. When I'm holding the device, I'd like the screen to be a little larger...when I have it in my pocket, I want the device to be a little smaller
I think a lot of people would agree with you. The balance is in finding the right size.
So according to Dilger logic the iPhone can't have a larger screen because Android sells a whole heap of BoGo pieces of shit?
I'd love to know since when BoGo pieces of shit have been the bar Apple should aim for.
I'd bet my house if the 4S was available with the current screen size as well as a 4" (almost) edge-to-edge version that the 4" version would sell better.
I for one like the information - it shows that the 'droid crowd talks about screen size like a magic bullet. It is clear here that most 'droid phones are the same or less in screen size as the iPhone. So the "advantage" in needing a larger screen is a figment of the 'droid population as many chose to get phones of lessor screens than the iPhone. When we hear of the massive over take of 'droid swamping the iPhone it is clear that most of this swarm of phones can not take advantage of the ice cream treat that Google has released. This is good data and puts it all in perspective - versus this oddly "all our 'droids" are the same in competition with the iPhone. It ain't so.
I for one like the information - it shows that the 'droid crowd talks about screen size like a magic bullet. It is clear here that most 'droid phones are the same or less in screen size as the iPhone. <==logic fail occured here==> So the "advantage" in needing a larger screen is a figment of the 'droid population as many chose to get phones of lessor screens than the iPhone.
I've highlighted above where you have made an incorrect assumption.
You can't make a call on what people want or is or isn't an "advantage" based on sales. Mac vs PC sales or Ferrari vs Toyota Corolla sales case in point.
Here's the post from the other thread:
Just read through that section of the article, DED is only giving 1 part of the data.
Here's the expanded part of it:
http://developer.android.com/guide/p...s_support.html
the 71.9% that he quotes as normal covers screens with sizes between ~3.5" and ~4.3" with pixel densities between ~190 and ~275 dpi. The 4% large screens covers screen sizes from 4.3" to 7"
see:
Also the resolution he quotes are bare minimums required to be labelled as that class of screen, not ranges.
Wow. I never paid much attention to the people calling out DED for spreading misinformation; but after this, I'm definitely taking anything he says with a hefty amount of salt. This also brings into question his ability to actually interpret raw data.
We can also do a quick mental exercise to show that the 4% number is wrong:
Samsung has claimed that they have sold 10 million galaxy S2 phones
The galaxy S2 features a 4.3" screen; which i'm sure you'll agree is on the large side.
Google has claimed 130M android devices in use as of July 2011, with ~500k activations per day. So from that, lets assume that they have added 45M android devices since (15M/month * 3 months), so 175M android devices
10M/175M = 5.7% so already, the 4% claim is in question; and this is just from 1 phone.
edit: I corrected DED to show actual screen sizes and corrected the classification of the iphone4/4S (The iPhone 4 screen is a 3.5" 326 dpi, which if you go by the classifications shown above, is a small or normal size screen with xhdpi):
The G1 was a pretty nice phone for what it was. It had nice form factor, and a nice design for the slide out keyboard, the little part that stuck out on the bottom where the home keys were was kind of odd and the OS was only okay, but other than that it was pretty good. Then they came out with the G2(that took less than a year for them to discontinue) and the bigger screen. When you first see it, your reaction is "Yeah" then you hold it and it's terrible. It just does not fit right in the hand. Now this could have been just my G2, but i did not like it. It was like going back to the sidekicks again, which were great for their time, but are clunky by design.
The iPhone 4 design, feels so much nicer. It's smooth and feels right, I would be happy forever with the current screen if all the phones feel this good to hold. If they do go larger I will trust them to be able to keep the feel as good as it is.
Just curious, would you have bought if Apple just slapped the iPhone 5 name on this model?
What makes it so compelling to wait for a phone that nobody knows anything about? Do you know for sure what features it will have?
What are you using now?
You don't have to answer, just asking.
I dont feel comfortable buying a phone thats not 4G capable. I'm currently using an Evo and I enjoy the speed and large screen. Battery life is somewhat iffy but with a car charger it's almost a non-issue. I know many people say that 4G infrastructure isn't in place yet blah blah blah. I live in Lafayette, LA and I get a 4G signal throughout most of the city. If I have to swith to 3G when I go out of town I feel like a turtle. I'd be willing to say that I know for sure it will have 4G and a larger screen, at the very least. I had a 3GS that broke internally and I miss it, mostly because of the iTunes integration.
I am very, very satisfied with the new 4S. Everything works instantly! Takes incredible photos, not so much videos. Image stabilization needs working on, I hope it's improvable...
Speaker is much louder and clearer. Vabriation hugely improved, very, very subtle and elegant. Doesn't make any noise anymore. Feelable in my front jeans pocket.
Obviously the screen could be (am/o)LED based... Though I'm staying with iOS. I can't use android. It's weak.
I'm not here to argue, I'm here to say that if you like high quality build device with a best user friendly interface :P go for the 4S. I mean it. Everything works instantly! It's like having SSD 500mb read/write speeds in your computer!
There is no point of an iPhone with 4G.
Untrue. Well, now, maybe. But not next summer.
4G signal is barely available across the globe.
In the places that it matters financially, however, it is. Available, that is.
It's like having SSD 500mb read/write speeds in your computer!
That's something I'd like to know; what's the RW speed of the NAND chip in iDevices these days?
BECAUSE WE REALLY NEED A THUNDERBOLT INTERFACE.
But in reality the 4s and iPad2 are spectacular improvements in performance. Dual core vs single core CPU ... and you rarely mention the importance of the huge improvement of the GPU ... up to 7 times the performance. Then there is just a bare mention of the camera improvement. The new 8 meg camera has a much improved optics pkg... the software is awesome, and the picture quality rivals that of many higher end point and shoot. So much so that it is likely to have a major impact on people buying a point and shoot camera. Then, we have Siri ... not only a voice command scheme but a real assistance that does so much more. And there is so much more to come. The 4 doesn't even come close. Then the antenna improvements that iOS5 so nicely switches back and forth to optimize better signal quality. Almost nothing is mentioned about Bluetooth 4.0, the ultra low power wireless feature that will be amazing once there is more of the mating devices (which by the way are coming).
You don't even emphasize that 4s is a universal phone that can work on GSM and CDMA. Naturally the carriers will want to lock down their offerings for the world travelers, but that is a carrier issue, not the phone design issue.
I would recommend selling their 4 and upgrading to 4s and get on board with all the new and exciting features and performance improvements.
The fact that folks don't have to go out a buy new accessories, since all of the iphone 4 accessories fit the 4s perfectly.
Then there are those who comment they will wait for iPhone 5 and they don't even know what they are waiting for. So it goes.
I don't agree that staying with 4 is good enough since they got the upgrade iOS5. With the much better CPU and GPU in 4s you could make better recommendations.
Weak review. IMHO