Samsung to depose Apple's iPhone designers, including Jony Ive
By the end of the month, Samsung plans to have depositions from a number of Apple designers, including senior vice president Jonathan Ive, in its ongoing patent infringement suit.
Ive and other designers were originally scheduled to provide their deposition by Nov. 1. But that deadline was extended last month when Samsung learned that the witnesses would be unavailable before that date.
Now, Ive and others are scheduled to provide their deposition by Dec. 1, as discovered by Edible Apple. The Apple employees' respective testimonies will be used as part of the expedited trial scheduled to begin July 30, 2012.
Others scheduled to take part in the depositions include Christopher Stringer, a designer who is among those credited with designing the first iPod, along with industrial designer Shin Nishibori. An ex-Apple employee, Doug Satzger, is also among those listed; Satzger worked at Apple for 12 years before he left in 2008.
But the biggest name on the list is Ive, Apple's widely praised design chief who shares credit with Apple co-founder Steve Jobs on more than 200 patented inventions. Ive was also a close friend of Jobs, and the late CEO left the designer with no true boss, putting him in a position with more power than anyone else at Apple.
Apple first sued Samsung in April, accusing its rival of copying the look and feel of its popular iPhone and iPad products, and Samsung quickly countersued. Though their legal battle began in the U.S., where the scheduled depositions will apply, the showdown has spread throughout the globe with numerous lawsuits. Apple has found the most initial success, winning bans on the sale of Samsung devices in Australia and Germany.
Ive and other designers were originally scheduled to provide their deposition by Nov. 1. But that deadline was extended last month when Samsung learned that the witnesses would be unavailable before that date.
Now, Ive and others are scheduled to provide their deposition by Dec. 1, as discovered by Edible Apple. The Apple employees' respective testimonies will be used as part of the expedited trial scheduled to begin July 30, 2012.
Others scheduled to take part in the depositions include Christopher Stringer, a designer who is among those credited with designing the first iPod, along with industrial designer Shin Nishibori. An ex-Apple employee, Doug Satzger, is also among those listed; Satzger worked at Apple for 12 years before he left in 2008.
But the biggest name on the list is Ive, Apple's widely praised design chief who shares credit with Apple co-founder Steve Jobs on more than 200 patented inventions. Ive was also a close friend of Jobs, and the late CEO left the designer with no true boss, putting him in a position with more power than anyone else at Apple.
Apple first sued Samsung in April, accusing its rival of copying the look and feel of its popular iPhone and iPad products, and Samsung quickly countersued. Though their legal battle began in the U.S., where the scheduled depositions will apply, the showdown has spread throughout the globe with numerous lawsuits. Apple has found the most initial success, winning bans on the sale of Samsung devices in Australia and Germany.
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At this point, Apple might want to seriously consider walking away from its supplier contract with Samsung.
I've always felt that Apple has plans in that direction for its huge pile of cash. Maybe owning a fab plant wouldn't be that bad for Apple. It's definitely one direction where they could really grow the company.
At this point, Apple might want to seriously consider walking away from its supplier contract with Samsung.
They have nowhere to go. They are pretty much without any choice but to enrich Samsung.
http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011...t-against.html
(As an aside, this is the first anti-Apple article I've seen from Florian)
Apple filing criminal charges was waaayy over the top IMHO. Sometimes the little guy does get a break.
They have nowhere to go. They are pretty much without any choice but to enrich Samsung.
TSMC, anyone?
(That's the right acronym, right?)
At this point, Apple might want to seriously consider walking away from its supplier contract with Samsung.
Apple should spend some of its 80 billion on Blackwater security and just invade south Korea and give it to North Korea.
North Korea is now more rational and innovative then Samsung.
At this point, Apple might want to seriously consider walking away from its supplier contract with Samsung.
TSMC, anyone?
(That's the right acronym, right?)
I still believe that TSMC will produce A6 since Apple have taped out a design at them.
The problem is displays, flash memory and other components that Apple buys from Samsung. Many of these factories have been funded by Apple. (For example the 1 billion pre payment for flash memory in 2005).
This is how huge Samsung's betrayal is.
Apple is their largest customer with 8-10 billion of sales. About 7-9% of Samsung's revenue. Is it enough for Samsung? No. They use their knowledge of Apple parts for tablets/phones and make almost identical products with Android.
This will always be a problem as long as companies outsource components to OEM's. The OEM's gets the design and can make their own version of the products.
Time to put an end to Sammy's antics!!!
Also, I don't believe Apple is going "over the edge" trying to protect their look and developments, but yes, they aren't being as amicable as Microsoft is. Given Microsoft is not making money on their Mobile OS and make more money licensing tech to Android builders. If Microsoft was in Apple's position they would do the same.
I've always felt that Apple has plans in that direction for its huge pile of cash. Maybe owning a fab plant wouldn't be that bad for Apple. It's definitely one direction where they could really grow the company.
I've got to admit that from where I'm sitting for Apple to take control of its own chip manufacturing seems like a good way to go. But then there is the issue of screens and memory. Getting out of manufacturing and reducing inventory was one of Tim Cook's babies. It saved Apple shedloads of money. I am not sure Apple wants to get back into manufacturing.
I've got to admit that from where I'm sitting for Apple to take control of its own chip manufacturing seems like a good way to go. But then there is the issue of screens and memory. Getting out of manufacturing and reducing inventory was one of Tim Cook's babies. It saved Apple shedloads of money. I am not sure Apple wants to get back into manufacturing.
You're most likely right. Having its own fab plant might seem like a good option in some respects but we are talking about Tim Cook... and there is no bloody way in hell that he will ever involve Apple in manufacturing.
Apple has certainly invited attacks by going just a tad over the edge with their attempts to keep viable competitors out of the marketplace.
Apple is not attempting to keep viable competitors out of the market.
They are attempting to keep other from releasing iPads.
Apple filing criminal charges was waaayy over the top
Apple cannot file criminal charges. That is up to the district attorney/justice department.
Apple can complain to authorities and the authorities may file charges.
Apple is not attempting to keep viable competitors out of the market.
They are attempting to keep other from releasing iPads.
Apple cannot file criminal charges. That is up to the district attorney/justice department.
Apple can complain to authorities and the authorities may file charges.
According to FOSSPatents Florian Mueller, Apple filed a criminal complaint, in addition to the civil one.
Do you think attempting to get criminal charges lodged was out-of-bounds or a proper move by Apple?
Just like the Romans.
At this point, Apple might want to seriously consider walking away from its supplier contract with Samsung.
Methinks that has always been part of the long term plan.
....This will always be a problem as long as companies outsource components to OEM's. The OEM's gets the design and can make their own version of the products.
Exactly. First to market does not a long term winner always make.
But first to market AND market share is a winning formula (think iPod).
So, in I think in a sense, IMO, Apple is protecting Market share more than design... just a thought.
Ive was also a close friend of Jobs, and the late CEO left the designer with no true boss, putting him in a position with more power than anyone else at Apple.
Sorry, but that is an absurd statement. At minimum Ive is subject to the control of the board, just like Cook. So he is not the most powerful; he has at least one peer.
And I would be extremely surprised if Cook could not fire him, although he may need permission from the board or the COB, but that is not unusual for very high-level employees.
At this point, Apple might want to seriously consider walking away from its supplier contract with Samsung.
Samsung and Apple are large enough to shake hands whilst punching it out. Though it does look like Apple is moving away from Samsung in many areas? though I'm sure they will move back soon enough.