Too bad they had to put in the "or similar unit clause". The Asus transformer prime does way more at the same price.
Except has flight certified EFB software. Of course, it can do more. Just keep telling yourself that enough and you might be able to actually sleep better at night.
I think they admire Apple's iron fisted control and locked down security policies since they are control freak organizations too.
The ironic part of this post is that the military don't normally use Macs or Mac products precisely because of the tight lockdown of their software. I ask several civilian IT guys why the military doesn't use Macs and almost to the person they said "Macs are too hard to write and overlay code for securing the PC's to our standards," to which I said, so you don't use Macs because their already too secure ... they replied "Yeah, basically." I had to laugh at that one.
iPads are basically the same way as it's indisputable the software is more secure in their Walled Garden then say, Android. However, due to the nature of the software on a tablet, it's hard to overwrite the code and have the item function as intended. The military will likely use the software that comes with the iPads, which is why they likely chose the more secure iPad over an Android tablet.
We'll still never see Macs in the military work environment, which is kinda sad, but it's what we have.
In this day and age, I can't imagine the military using anything but their own apps and combing through the innards of iOS to ensure everything is tight.
Surprisingly why didn't they fork Android and build a custom, "free" solution?
The US government is already building out and using a customized version of Android for use in areas where security is important. There's even specific Android-based phones already approved for use by DoD in areas where communications security is the utmost concern. No apple products are yet approved for those uses.
I think SolipsismX already knows "holes" in Android are certainly no worse than those in iOS and Android is definitely easier to lock down than iOS is for now. He's just making up for mentioning how good Chrome security is in another thread.
I? believe "General Oogie Boogie" could be construed as racist, but it has been a while since that terminology has had that connotation. The rest just looks like a caricaturization of Zimbabwe's lack of progress and indeed could probably be reapplied to virtually any dictatorial country in a mocking fashion.
Huh? Is Zimbabwe a country or "race"? My dictionary says it's a country.
Based on the context I think it's safe to say that he meant oogie boogie to denote someone who is primitive to the point of being perceived as less than human.
The top search results for the words "oogie boogie" returns links to Tim Burton's A Nightmare Before Christmas
Cost has literally nothing to do with it. It has to packaged and labeled a certain way with the government part number. Some companies are accommodating to military requirements for all others it's third parties that step in and repackage re label.
You also have to be on the GSA list. I'm not sure if Apple is, but they should be.
We'll still never see Macs in the military work environment, which is kinda sad, but it's what we have.
The military has been researching and implementing the use of all different OS platforms as to not become vulnerable to a single point of failure in case of an attack on their network. A Windows virus does not usually infect a Mac and visa versa. Same with Linux.
The top search results for the words "oogie boogie" returns links to Tim Burton's A Nightmare Before Christmas
There was concern that name for the boogie man would be seen as racist, but that's beside the point. A term that was never used in a racist way can seen be racist if the context implies otherwise.
The US government is already building out and using a customized version of Android for use in areas where security is important. There's even specific Android-based phones already approved for use by DoD in areas where communications security is the utmost concern. No apple products are yet approved for those uses.
I think SolipsismX already knows "holes" in Android are certainly no worse than those in iOS and Android is definitely easier to lock down than iOS is for now. He's just making up for mentioning how good Chrome security is in another thread.
No, NSA has produced a secure variant of Android which is available to vendors who wish to produce adequately secure cell phones. There are two variants of this variant, one for government sales and one for commercial use. To date, no "secure Android phones" have been marketed; they may show up in the fall. The question of 'holes' in iOS is a non-sequator because Apple probably has not submitted the SW to NSA for testing.
The US Army moved its non-secure network onto Mac HW/SW in the late 90s because of 'security concerns'; it still runs on Macs.
No, NSA has produced a secure variant of Android which is available to vendors who wish to produce adequately secure cell phones. There are two variants of this variant, one for government sales and one for commercial use. To date, no "secure Android phones" have been marketed; they may show up in the fall. The question of 'holes' in iOS is a non-sequator because Apple probably has not submitted the SW to NSA for testing.
The US Army moved its non-secure network onto Mac HW/SW in the late 90s because of 'security concerns'; it still runs on Macs.
Cheers
The Dell Venue smartphone with their 2.2 variant is already approved according to news reports from late last year.
What you might instead be referring to is the NSA's plan to move to commercial off-the-shelf (COTS) Android phones for their secure classified uses since all the proper standards exist already for Android. So far they haven't identified a standard commercially available phone that meets all their needs and so they were forced into a modified Android OS as a stop-gap. They expect off-the-shelf Android phones to be available for NSA classified communications needs later in the year.
Kudos for being aware of that tho. Are you perhaps involved with the project in some way?
What you might instead be referring to is the NSA's plan to move to commercial off-the-shelf (COTS) Android phones for their secure classified uses since all the proper standards exist already for Android. So far they haven't identified a standard commercially available phone that meets all their needs and so they were forced into a modified Android OS as a stop-gap. They expect off-the-shelf Android phones to be available for NSA classified communications needs later in the year.
Kudos for being aware of that tho. Are you perhaps involved with the project in some way?
No, your original cite was for general purpose/unsecure military use, as per your subsequent links. My reference was to the creation of a "secure" OS for uses supervised by NSA. The intent from NSA is that vendors can create their own 'secure' phones using the specs and SW from NSA.
I'm not involved in the project, but I was Security Officer of a unit which had oversight by NSA.
No, your original cite was for general purpose/unsecure military use, as per your subsequent links. My reference was to the creation of a "secure" OS for uses supervised by NSA. The intent from NSA is that vendors can create their own 'secure' phones using the specs and SW from NSA.
I'm not involved in the project, but I was Security Officer of a unit which had oversight by NSA.
Cheers
I guess you confused me when I said there were already specific Android phones approved by the DoD for areas "where communications security is the utmost concern" and you said "No".
Quoted from my second link:
"The Defense Information Systems Agency has certified a secure Android-based mobile system for use by Defense Department agencies. The system allows DOD personnel to sign, encrypt and decrypt e-mail, and securely access data from a smart phone or tablet computer.
... Developed by Good Technology for use on DOD-approved Dell Streak 5 smart phones, the capability meets DOD Directive 8100.2 that requires the use of secure, multipurpose Internet mail extension together with with a DOD common access card and interoperability with the DOD’s public-key infrastructure. "
So now the American Air Force is helping to kill Chinese citizens.
18,000 units. That's a lot of dead Foxconn employees when you work out the percentages.
Wait till the New York Times runs with this...
And the laid off Foxconn employees lives happily ever after!
No, sir. I am and any sane human should be happy that Apple is giving contracts to Foxconn so they can employ more people who would have been unemployed otherwise. So, what if some useless, good for nothing people remain unemployed....
What do you prefer, people earning somewhat lower salary or people starving to death?
BTW: Just for your info, suicide rate at Foxconn is lower than US suicide rate.
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They probably wanted updates after more than a year.
Plus they probably also wanted to avoid this newspaper headline:
"Virus takes down U.S. Air Force Plane"
Sort of sounds like a "Weekly World News" headline.
"Targeted Ads Take Aim At Air Force!: 4 dead in fatal crash, but they got 10% off coats at Eddie Bauer"
Too bad they had to put in the "or similar unit clause". The Asus transformer prime does way more at the same price.
Except has flight certified EFB software. Of course, it can do more. Just keep telling yourself that enough and you might be able to actually sleep better at night.
I think they admire Apple's iron fisted control and locked down security policies since they are control freak organizations too.
The ironic part of this post is that the military don't normally use Macs or Mac products precisely because of the tight lockdown of their software. I ask several civilian IT guys why the military doesn't use Macs and almost to the person they said "Macs are too hard to write and overlay code for securing the PC's to our standards," to which I said, so you don't use Macs because their already too secure ... they replied "Yeah, basically." I had to laugh at that one.
iPads are basically the same way as it's indisputable the software is more secure in their Walled Garden then say, Android. However, due to the nature of the software on a tablet, it's hard to overwrite the code and have the item function as intended. The military will likely use the software that comes with the iPads, which is why they likely chose the more secure iPad over an Android tablet.
We'll still never see Macs in the military work environment, which is kinda sad, but it's what we have.
Surprisingly why didn't they fork Android and build a custom, "free" solution?
The US government is already building out and using a customized version of Android for use in areas where security is important. There's even specific Android-based phones already approved for use by DoD in areas where communications security is the utmost concern. No apple products are yet approved for those uses.
I think SolipsismX already knows "holes" in Android are certainly no worse than those in iOS and Android is definitely easier to lock down than iOS is for now. He's just making up for mentioning how good Chrome security is in another thread.
I? believe "General Oogie Boogie" could be construed as racist, but it has been a while since that terminology has had that connotation. The rest just looks like a caricaturization of Zimbabwe's lack of progress and indeed could probably be reapplied to virtually any dictatorial country in a mocking fashion.
Huh? Is Zimbabwe a country or "race"? My dictionary says it's a country.
Based on the context I think it's safe to say that he meant oogie boogie to denote someone who is primitive to the point of being perceived as less than human.
The top search results for the words "oogie boogie" returns links to Tim Burton's A Nightmare Before Christmas
???
No it doesn't. It can be a standard COTS item.
It could be but 18,000 units at that price? I am going to do a little digging and see how they are procuring these.
Cost has literally nothing to do with it. It has to packaged and labeled a certain way with the government part number. Some companies are accommodating to military requirements for all others it's third parties that step in and repackage re label.
You also have to be on the GSA list. I'm not sure if Apple is, but they should be.
We'll still never see Macs in the military work environment, which is kinda sad, but it's what we have.
The military has been researching and implementing the use of all different OS platforms as to not become vulnerable to a single point of failure in case of an attack on their network. A Windows virus does not usually infect a Mac and visa versa. Same with Linux.
The top search results for the words "oogie boogie" returns links to Tim Burton's A Nightmare Before Christmas
There was concern that name for the boogie man would be seen as racist, but that's beside the point. A term that was never used in a racist way can seen be racist if the context implies otherwise.
The US government is already building out and using a customized version of Android for use in areas where security is important. There's even specific Android-based phones already approved for use by DoD in areas where communications security is the utmost concern. No apple products are yet approved for those uses.
I think SolipsismX already knows "holes" in Android are certainly no worse than those in iOS and Android is definitely easier to lock down than iOS is for now. He's just making up for mentioning how good Chrome security is in another thread.
No, NSA has produced a secure variant of Android which is available to vendors who wish to produce adequately secure cell phones. There are two variants of this variant, one for government sales and one for commercial use. To date, no "secure Android phones" have been marketed; they may show up in the fall. The question of 'holes' in iOS is a non-sequator because Apple probably has not submitted the SW to NSA for testing.
The US Army moved its non-secure network onto Mac HW/SW in the late 90s because of 'security concerns'; it still runs on Macs.
Cheers
No, NSA has produced a secure variant of Android which is available to vendors who wish to produce adequately secure cell phones. There are two variants of this variant, one for government sales and one for commercial use. To date, no "secure Android phones" have been marketed; they may show up in the fall. The question of 'holes' in iOS is a non-sequator because Apple probably has not submitted the SW to NSA for testing.
The US Army moved its non-secure network onto Mac HW/SW in the late 90s because of 'security concerns'; it still runs on Macs.
Cheers
The Dell Venue smartphone with their 2.2 variant is already approved according to news reports from late last year.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/28/2...rtment-defense
The Dell Streak 5 is also approved as of January this year according to this article.
http://gcn.com/articles/2012/01/05/d...m-for-dod.aspx
What you might instead be referring to is the NSA's plan to move to commercial off-the-shelf (COTS) Android phones for their secure classified uses since all the proper standards exist already for Android. So far they haven't identified a standard commercially available phone that meets all their needs and so they were forced into a modified Android OS as a stop-gap. They expect off-the-shelf Android phones to be available for NSA classified communications needs later in the year.
Kudos for being aware of that tho.
Well $79 out of 599 is NOT substantial and nothing to brag about.
In fact, it's pretty lame for a few thousand units.
That $520 includes support and setup ($9.36m/18,000), which seems to me that means they are picking up the iPads themselves pretty cheap.
I see the Air Force getting a free copy of "Angry Air Force Birds".
I wonder if pilots are playing Fight Control HD on flights...
The Dell Venue smartphone with their 2.2 variant is already approved according to news reports from late last year.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/28/2...rtment-defense
The Dell Streak 5 is also approved as of January this year according to this article.
http://gcn.com/articles/2012/01/05/d...m-for-dod.aspx
What you might instead be referring to is the NSA's plan to move to commercial off-the-shelf (COTS) Android phones for their secure classified uses since all the proper standards exist already for Android. So far they haven't identified a standard commercially available phone that meets all their needs and so they were forced into a modified Android OS as a stop-gap. They expect off-the-shelf Android phones to be available for NSA classified communications needs later in the year.
Kudos for being aware of that tho.
No, your original cite was for general purpose/unsecure military use, as per your subsequent links. My reference was to the creation of a "secure" OS for uses supervised by NSA. The intent from NSA is that vendors can create their own 'secure' phones using the specs and SW from NSA.
I'm not involved in the project, but I was Security Officer of a unit which had oversight by NSA.
Cheers
No, your original cite was for general purpose/unsecure military use, as per your subsequent links. My reference was to the creation of a "secure" OS for uses supervised by NSA. The intent from NSA is that vendors can create their own 'secure' phones using the specs and SW from NSA.
I'm not involved in the project, but I was Security Officer of a unit which had oversight by NSA.
Cheers
I guess you confused me when I said there were already specific Android phones approved by the DoD for areas "where communications security is the utmost concern" and you said "No".
Quoted from my second link:
"The Defense Information Systems Agency has certified a secure Android-based mobile system for use by Defense Department agencies. The system allows DOD personnel to sign, encrypt and decrypt e-mail, and securely access data from a smart phone or tablet computer.
... Developed by Good Technology for use on DOD-approved Dell Streak 5 smart phones, the capability meets DOD Directive 8100.2 that requires the use of secure, multipurpose Internet mail extension together with with a DOD common access card and interoperability with the DOD’s public-key infrastructure. "
So what was your "No" referring to?
Don't sweat it, he hates everyone.....except himself, his girlfriend (although she's a woman and, therefore, just a sexual object) and Apple users.
Actually, that should be "and US Apple users". He doesn't give a rat's a** about anyone from the "3rd world" who is an Apple User either!!
So now the American Air Force is helping to kill Chinese citizens.
18,000 units. That's a lot of dead Foxconn employees when you work out the percentages.
Wait till the New York Times runs with this...
And the laid off Foxconn employees lives happily ever after!
No, sir. I am and any sane human should be happy that Apple is giving contracts to Foxconn so they can employ more people who would have been unemployed otherwise. So, what if some useless, good for nothing people remain unemployed....
What do you prefer, people earning somewhat lower salary or people starving to death?
BTW: Just for your info, suicide rate at Foxconn is lower than US suicide rate.