iPhone closes in on Android in growing U.S. smartphone market

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  • gtrgtr Posts: 3,165member
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    Originally Posted by I am a Zither Zather Zuzz View Post


    I guess that is just one manner in which you "Think different".



    Hell, my friend, you could even take the 'Different' off the end of that quote and you would still be spot on!
  • nairbnairb Posts: 253member
    This is a much better stat for iPhone than the Christmas win. A Christmas win was almost a given with a new iPhone and cheaper old versions. The fact that this strong growth is continuing well after the new iPhone rush really puts the pressure on Android makers.



    Samsung Galaxy S3 and HTC One launch in Q2. These are the flagship phones for these companies. If these dont lead to a turn around then it will be a long, long year for Android.
  • killer instinctkiller instinct Posts: 2member
    [QUOTE=Red Oak;2084202]That is amazing. Apple against the world. And Apple is not even on T-Mobile



  • killer instinctkiller instinct Posts: 2member
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    Originally Posted by Mechanic View Post


    This can't be all the fandroids tells us that 850000 droids are activated each day!

    This comes from the head fandroid himself Andy Fandroid Rubin.



    did you really read the article???? that was US alone not the whole world....Keep trolling
  • magicfingersmagicfingers Posts: 703member
    The fandroids will spin this every possible way to make them selves feel better, this we can be sure of.

    lame ass android... so lame

    and lame ass fandroids.... so so lame. I almost feel sorry for the poor fools. NOT!!!
  • neo42neo42 Posts: 287member
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    Originally Posted by MagicFingers View Post


    The fandroids will spin this every possible way to make them selves feel better, this we can be sure of.

    lame ass android... so lame

    and lame ass fandroids.... so so lame. I almost feel sorry for the poor fools. NOT!!!



    What's lame is this preemptive declaration.
  • magicfingersmagicfingers Posts: 703member
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    Originally Posted by Neo42 View Post


    What's lame is this preemptive declaration.



    preempte? whatever... android is lame, and was put out there for free for the lamer. Get a clue.
  • eye forgeteye forget Posts: 154member
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    850k is the whole world i suppose



    I won't be surprised if Android is doing much better relatively in non-US countries than US. Here the US carriers are very restrictive and it's not good for an OS like Android. Plus iPhone 4S is the 1st phone with 3 of the 4 major US cairrers selling/promoting it.



    Probably right as China and India dwarf any other area in terms of mobile phones in use. Like the USA, cheap is paramount in their purchase decisions and that's where Android excels.



    Which is why discussions like this are like comparing Ford's growth rates to BMW's. Irrelevant.
  • majjomajjo Posts: 574member
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    Originally Posted by island hermit View Post


    Google doesn't make any revenue from android other than ad revenue.



    One report basically says that another os gives google more mobile ad revenue than their own product.



    Why would you continue to support something that gives you such little return? You could sell the os to another company and let them develop it. The return in ad revenue would be the same.



    Android is definitely heading to beleaguered... give it time.



    {... and besides... you talked about "rapidly increasing sales"... again, Google does not sell Android, nor does it sell phones]



    I don't think Google is going to abandon android that easily. From what I've seen, based on ICS and other announcements, it seems that Google's intent with android is to expand it beyond the phone/tablet market. And with intel throwing x86 support behind android, I think it will be interesting to see how it evolves.



    Micosoft have tried this before with "windows everywhere" and we all know how that turned out, so I don't think this will work out for google either.
  • gatorguygatorguy Posts: 14,657member
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    I don't think Google is going to abandon android that easily. From what I've seen, based on ICS and other announcements, it seems that Google's intent with android is to expand it beyond the phone/tablet market. And with intel throwing x86 support behind android, I think it will be interesting to see how it evolves.



    Micosoft have tried this before with "windows everywhere" and we all know how that turned out, so I don't think this will work out for google either.



    An IDC report from just a couple days ago predicts Android and ARM overtaking Microsoft and x86 in device market share by 2016
  • vqrovqro Posts: 66member
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    Originally Posted by island hermit View Post


    "was"



    Quite a few people must have wised up.



    I thought this would happen with the 6th gen phone coming out later this year. Never did I expect it to happen with the 4S.



    Android is in trouble.



    This, along with increased disinterest by developers who are finding it hard to monetize on the huge Android marketshare, spells a bit of trouble for the Android platform. I wouldn't say that Android is going away as some people are suggesting but it's going to slowly lose marketshare in the next few months.
  • vqrovqro Posts: 66member
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    Originally Posted by Mechanic View Post


    This can't be all the fandroids tells us that 850000 droids are activated each day!

    This comes from the head fandroid himself Andy Fandroid Rubin.



    That guy Rubin is so full of $hit... but the Android fanboys eat it up like it's gospel. Talk about a cult... Android has become a religion... one with the most fervent, zealous adherents.
  • gatorguygatorguy Posts: 14,657member
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    That guy Rubin is so full of $hit... but the Android fanboys eat it up like it's gospel. Talk about a cult... Android has become a religion... one with the most fervent, zealous adherents.



    Is that a "gut feeling" or did you come across some citation that shows his claim of 850K new Android activations on average each day (current rate) isn't true?
  • gatorguygatorguy Posts: 14,657member
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    Originally Posted by island hermit View Post


    "was"



    Quite a few people must have wised up.



    I thought this would happen with the 6th gen phone coming out later this year. Never did I expect it to happen with the 4S.



    Android is in trouble.



    Lest we all lose the forest for the trees, MobiThinking (who has every mobile stat you'd ever wish to know and several you might even rather not see) has a reality check:



    "The media tends to overegg the importance of smartphones and Apple in particular. Before media hype lulls you into focusing your marketing/development budget on smartphones or the Apple platform exclusively, consider this: 61.3 percent of handsets sold in 2011 were not smartphones, they were feature phones; 94 percent of all phones sold were not Apple.

    N.B. smartphone sales is not the same as market penetration. Market penetration of smartphones will be lower. There are almost 6 billion mobile subscriptions worldwide (Source: ITU), yet only 968.2 million smartphones have been sold in total in 2009, 2010 and 2011, according to IDC i.e. only 16 percent of global mobile subscriptions."

    http://mobithinking.com/blog/2011-ha...es-big-picture
  • orthorimorthorim Posts: 134member
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    Originally Posted by Red Oak View Post


    That is amazing. Apple against the world. And Apple is not even on T-Mobile



    And it gets better with the new iPhone release coming. And, could the 4S actually go to $99 and the 4 go for $0? Well, that would be a slam dunk



    I bet this is all due to the Verizon/Sprint effect - it's slowly taking hold on those carriers, and those carriers can now tone down their pro-Android ads; while they still make more on Android handsets than on iPhones, pushing Android is now not a life-or-death situation for them anymore.



    My mom (65) just got an iPhone. I didn't force it on her, or even suggest it. She did that all on her own. That alone spells trouble for Android. She's loving it, too, even though I just broke the news to her that her phone can play "the mp3s" and can do that rather well - she had no idea.
  • afrodriafrodri Posts: 181member
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    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


    An IDC report from just a couple days ago predicts Android and ARM overtaking Microsoft and x86 in device market share by 2016



    I'd be wary of IDC. They also recently announced that x86 is going to overtake ARM in the embedded space:



    "According to IDC's figures, ARM had 71 per cent of the processors in embedded systems last year, but by 2016 this share will nearly halve to 38 per cent. By contrast, x86 systems, which currently have 8 per cent of the market, will grow to 41 per cent..."



    While its not impossible that ARM will overtake x86 for non-embedded systems, and x86 to simultaneously overtake ARM in embedded systems, it seems unlikely.



    EDIT: story link: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03...igent_systems/
  • majjomajjo Posts: 574member
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    Originally Posted by afrodri View Post


    I'd be wary of IDC. They also recently announced that x86 is going to overtake ARM in the embedded space:



    "According to IDC's figures, ARM had 71 per cent of the processors in embedded systems last year, but by 2016 this share will nearly halve to 38 per cent. By contrast, x86 systems, which currently have 8 per cent of the market, will grow to 41 per cent..."



    While its not impossible that ARM will overtake x86 for non-embedded systems, and x86 to simultaneously overtake ARM in embedded systems, it seems unlikely.



    EDIT: story link: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03...igent_systems/



    Yeah... I wouldn't put much weight on those predictions. I think anand gives a good analysis of what google wants to do with android in his ICS video
  • lukevaxhackerlukevaxhacker Posts: 104member
    I had an HTC Tilt 2 for internal company applications. One week my wife decides she wants a mobile phone, having gotten tired of searches for pay phones. Next week, it refuses to boot. Out an AT&T store to pick up a 3GS for only $0.99, plus fees.
  • hmm888hmm888 Posts: 16member
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    Rapidly increasing sales because it's cheap (and nasty). I'd call that "beleaguered".



    Considering the number of companies that are combined to provide Android statistics, this is an extremely poor showing when the competition is a single company.



    The main reason Android is still ahead of the game, which surprises the heck out of me since I hardly see anyone with an Android but with an iPhone 4 or 4S is the carriers are selling the Android phones really cheap. Sure, when the new model is first introduced, it is sold comparably priced to the iPhone. Only the early adopters get them, but within several months the price rapidly declines to nothing with a contract. Compare this to the iPhone where users are willing to pay $159/199 (lowest in Canada) for the iPhone 8+ months after launch. What does that tell you about the iPhone?
  • stelligentstelligent Posts: 2,680member
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    Originally Posted by Hmm888 View Post


    The main reason Android is still ahead of the game, which surprises the heck out of me since I hardly see anyone with an Android but with an iPhone 4 or 4S is the carriers are selling the Android phones really cheap. Sure, when the new model is first introduced, it is sold comparably priced to the iPhone. Only the early adopters get them, but within several months the price rapidly declines to nothing with a contract. Compare this to the iPhone where users are willing to pay $159/199 (lowest in Canada) for the iPhone 8+ months after launch. What does that tell you about the iPhone?



    The Samsung Galaxy II is only $50 less. Furthermore, the Galaxy II is outselling the cheaper HTC and Moto phones.



    So the point about Android only selling because of price is a flawed one. Price matters, but not the only thing that matters. Android is a platform losing its direction but the arguments about iPhone surge here are misdirected. Case in point above.
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