iOS 7 beta: Developers, Sen. McCain applaud App Store auto-updates

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in iPhone edited January 2014
Apple tweaked a lot of things for its forthcoming iOS 7 update, but there is one move in particular that has drawn cheers not only from the crowd of developers at WWDC, but from the halls of Congress: auto-updates for App Store software.

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Among the many changes announced with the unveiling of iOS 7 was the addition of automatic updates, which drew big applause from the crowd of developers, Apple fans, and press at Moscone Center. U.S. Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.) also added his own voice to the chorus, tweeting his appreciation of Apple finally resolving what had for him been a pet peeve.

"Thanks to Tim Cook for the automatic iphone [sic] app updates!" McCain posted on Monday.

McCain's tweet hearkens back to a complaint the senator made in his closing remarks during a hearing on Apple's taxes held on Capitol Hill. The senior senator from Arizona repeatedly expressed his belief that Apple's policy of routing its overseas revenues through an Irish subsidiary amounted to tax avoidance.

Throughout his statements and questioning, though, McCain remained polite to Apple CEO Tim Cook and the other Apple executives in attendance. He and the other senators on the panel repeatedly expressed their admiration not only for Apple's products, but for the company itself, as well as its founder and current leaders. Ending his remarks, McCain struck a light tone.

"I'm out of time," the senator said to Cook, "what I really wanted to ask is why the hell I have to keep updating the apps on my iPhone all the time, and why you don't fix that."

The remark drew laughs from the hearing's attendees, including Cook, who responded, "Sir, we're trying to make them better all the time."



While Apple largely reinvented the smartphone market ? giving it a much more app-centric focus in the process ? the iPhone maker has been somewhat late to the game with regard to certain automation aspects. The ability to have apps automatically update is one of those aspects, as that feature has been built into iOS' main rival, Android, for some time.

The announcement of automatically updating apps for iOS 7 received one of the larger rounds of applause during Monday's keynote presentation. The Apple executives that took the stage made sure to point out that the update would contain scores of other new features.
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  • Reply 1 of 60
    steven n.steven n. Posts: 1,229member
    I was half expecting Craig or Tim to specifically call the auto-update the "Senator McCain feature".
  • Reply 2 of 60
    jimijonjimijon Posts: 9member
    It allowed Apple to scale up its datacenters first.
  • Reply 3 of 60
    andysolandysol Posts: 2,506member
    Funny. Good news story.
  • Reply 4 of 60
    nagrommenagromme Posts: 2,834member
    That's great, and should be the default, but before iOS 7 ships, let us turn it off, and/or revert to older app versions.

    Too many games that I pad for went free later and either added ads, or else make you pay again by IAP to unlock to same content I bought with the app to begin with. I understand the dilemmas faced by developers--it's not always easy to pay the rent--but that's not cool! So I read the update reviews and skip those updates.
  • Reply 5 of 60
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
    I was right lol.
  • Reply 6 of 60
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,926member
    I hope this is optional. I don't want to update over 3G automatically.
  • Reply 7 of 60
    hittrj01hittrj01 Posts: 753member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nagromme View Post



    That's great, and should be the default, but before iOS 7 ships, let us turn it off, and/or revert to older app versions.



    Too many games that I pad for went free later and either added ads, or else make you pay again by IAP to unlock to same content I bought with the app to begin with. I understand the dilemmas faced by developers--it's not always easy to pay the rent--but that's not cool! So I read the update reviews and skip those updates.


    It can be turned off already in the first beta, and as long as you keep a backup of the older version on your computer, you can always revert to an older version of the app.

  • Reply 8 of 60
    I actually misunderstood the original story, because I didn't realize iPhones apps couldn't auto-update. I just thought McCain -- infamous for his techno-cluelessness in 2008 -- was complaining because of the automatic updates streaming in and installing themselves (which can be a distraction, if minor). I'd assumed that iPhones, like others, had been auto-updating their apps all along. Learn something new every day. Hopefully.
  • Reply 9 of 60
    richlrichl Posts: 2,213member


    Next up: delta updates? 


     


    Please? image

  • Reply 10 of 60
    robin huberrobin huber Posts: 3,960member
    jungmark wrote: »
    I hope this is optional.
    Agreed. There are some updates that remove features I want to keep. Shazam comes to mind.
  • Reply 11 of 60
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    While Apple largely reinvented the smartphone market ? giving it a much more app-centric focus in the process ? the iPhone maker has been somewhat late to the game with regard to certain automation aspects. The ability to have apps automatically update is one of those aspects, as that feature has been built into iOS' main rival, Android, for some time.

    Android had this before iOS? How is that possible, they copied Apple and added a feature themselves¿ Oh I get it, they didn't need to spend 2.5 years tinkering how to create the next great thing, so had all the time in the world to come up with something on their own.

    Wow. Android - it really never seizes to amaze me. And that's not a positive thing to say.
  • Reply 12 of 60
    cm477cm477 Posts: 99member
    Being to able to select automatic or manual updating would be great. Personally I like the current process since I can see ahead of time what new and improved features are being added to apps. I guess a splash screen after an update could accomplish the same, but sometimes new features will spur me to again use apps that I stopped using if I didn't find them that useful.
  • Reply 13 of 60
    jahbladejahblade Posts: 159member
    Thanks for the confirmation. I will turn off. There are certain apps I don't want to update. Like McTube Pro, the resent update removed the ability to download YouTube video.
  • Reply 14 of 60
    jahbladejahblade Posts: 159member
    hittrj01 wrote: »
    It can be turned off already in the first beta, and as long as you keep a backup of the older version on your computer, you can always revert to an older version of the app.
    Thanks for the confirmation. I will turn off. There are certain apps I don't want to update. Like McTube Pro, the resent update removed the ability to download YouTube video.
  • Reply 15 of 60
    poksipoksi Posts: 482member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ks2problema View Post



    I actually misunderstood the original story, because I didn't realize iPhones apps couldn't auto-update. I just thought McCain -- infamous for his techno-cluelessness in 2008 -- was complaining because of the automatic updates streaming in and installing themselves (which can be a distraction, if minor). I'd assumed that iPhones, like others, had been auto-updating their apps all along. Learn something new every day. Hopefully.


     


    Oh, yes, didn't you know us Apple users and especially developers are using steam from coal to power our devices? It's heartwarming to know some of you lucky guys live at starship Enterprise...

  • Reply 16 of 60
    poksipoksi Posts: 482member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post





    Android had this before iOS? How is that possible, they copied Apple and added a feature themselves¿ Oh I get it, they didn't need to spend 2.5 years tinkering how to create the next great thing, so had all the time in the world to come up with something on their own.



    Wow. Android - it really never seizes to amaze me. And that's not a positive thing to say.


     


     


    person that is not complete moron would know the feature had to do everything with infrastructure and bandwidth  at Apple sites. Same person would also know this is not really a heartbreaking feature.

  • Reply 17 of 60
    gazoobeegazoobee Posts: 3,754member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nagromme View Post



    That's great, and should be the default, but before iOS 7 ships, let us turn it off, and/or revert to older app versions.



    Too many games that I pad for went free later and either added ads, or else make you pay again by IAP to unlock to same content I bought with the app to begin with. I understand the dilemmas faced by developers--it's not always easy to pay the rent--but that's not cool! So I read the update reviews and skip those updates.


     


    In all fairness this is something that only techie types care about at all.  It's also something that requires a significant amount of "managing" to the point that even for that small techie group, it's mostly a losing game.  


     


    Just relax and let the people that write the apps control their own apps.  Then vote with your dollars.  

  • Reply 18 of 60
    bushman4bushman4 Posts: 858member
    Better late than never at least Apples listening albeit with only one ear
  • Reply 19 of 60
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post




    In all fairness this is something that only techie types care about at all.  It's also something that requires a significant amount of "managing" to the point that even for that small techie group, it's mostly a losing game.  


     


    Just relax and let the people that write the apps control their own apps.  Then vote with your dollars.  



    As mentioned above it is not always a good time to download a bunch of large apps such as when you are on your cellular data plan or in the middle of some other activity that would make it inconvenient to download apps. Fortunately, according to a beta tester posted above, there is a way to turn the automatic update feature off which means that there will be some management involved and perhaps it should always be left in the off position if just for the data plan issue. That will certainly be the case for me so the feature is mostly useless in that situation.

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    Originally Posted by Robin Huber View Post



    Agreed. There are some updates that remove features I want to keep. Shazam comes to mind.


     


    I know sometimes we want to keep the old app features and not update the app, but eventually the old app won't work because the developer removed those features from the server and the app has no way of getting the information it needs.

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