The Dorsal Story And The G5.

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
I have recently joined the message board and have been doing a lot of "catch up reading" on the subject of the G5 and "Dorsal".



I am confused about a few things.



1) Which Dorsal is really Dorsal?



2) How does he know so much?



3) Where does he work?



4) Why does he post so intermitantly?



5) What does the majority of appleinsider feel about Dorsal, is he a liar or is he in the know?



6) How would he have anything to do with the G5 unless he worked for either Apple or Motorola?



7) Wouldnt his company fnd him out?



Thank you for any info you can provide!
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  • Reply 1 of 26
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    [quote]Originally posted by fellow722:

    <strong>I have recently joined the message board and have been doing a lot of "catch up reading" on the subject of the G5 and "Dorsal".</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Welcome aboard.



    [quote]<strong>I am confused about a few things.



    1) Which Dorsal is really Dorsal?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    The obvious one.



    [quote]<strong>2) How does he know so much?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Either he works with prototype Apple hardware or he's an engineer who reads the rumor sites thoroughly.



    [quote]<strong>3) Where does he work?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Good question. Anyone who knows isn't telling.



    [quote]<strong>4) Why does he post so intermitantly?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Lots of reasons. First of all, he might just be a busy guy. Second of all, he might not have all that much to tell us. It might take him a long time to put various lines of speculation together into a plausible prototype. Lastly, if introduces delays of random length between when he actually learns something and when he posts, it's harder to track him. Note that I'm not assuming anything about whether he's the geniune article.



    [quote]<strong>5) What does the majority of appleinsider feel about Dorsal, is he a liar or is he in the know?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    He seems to have more credibility than most people who claim insider knowledge, but there are always skeptics.



    There are two unfortunate facts facing the would-be Apple rumormonger: One is that you can't prove your credibility without identifying yourself, and you're toast as soon as you've been identified. The other is that people here judge your credibility by which releases you predict, but if you're looking at Apple prototype hardware, there's no guarantee Apple will release it or anything remotely like it. So it's theoretically possible to be a true insider who posts 100% accurate information, and who has zero credibility on these boards because none of the things he's reported have ever seen the light of day!



    [quote]<strong>6) How would he have anything to do with the G5 unless he worked for either Apple or Motorola?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    It's possible that he does. Or, he could work with a number of crucial vendors whose products are tied closely to either Apple's hardware or its software.



    There is always the possibility that he doesn't see Apple prototype hardware, and he's just got enough engineering savvy to collate rumors from other sites together with informed speculation and produce a plausible result. No-one has proof either way, and unless he seriously screws up, no-one will.



    [quote]<strong>7) Wouldnt his company fnd him out?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    There is always that possibility.



    [ 05-05-2002: Message edited by: Amorph ]</p>
  • Reply 2 of 26
    macintoshmacintosh Posts: 22member
    Thank you, Amorph! That all helps a bit even though the mystery remains strong.



    I wish I knew where he works or if somebody does know where he works but is not telling? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
  • Reply 3 of 26
    xypexype Posts: 672member
    [quote]Originally posted by fellow722:

    <strong>I wish I knew where he works or if somebody does know where he works but is not telling? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>



    I don't care where he works as long as his posts are fun to read. I mean, even if we knew where he works that wouldn't change a thing but bring him into trouble. There would sure as hell be people who'd say "I don't believe he works there" which wouldn't change his credibility, but it could likely cost him his job.
  • Reply 4 of 26
    I hope to God that nobody is stupid enough to post the name of the company where Dorsal works.
  • Reply 5 of 26
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    You know fellow, you're awfully nosy for someone with 9 posts. You might be a NARC. In that case, you won't get anything from us. I hope Dorsal wasnt stupid enough to tell anyone where he works, but if he was, I hope that person isn't so dim as to tell anyone else.



    Let's see:



    Dorsal posts prototype specs and is smart enough to cover his tracks and not get drawn in by "Yeah, prove it," taunts.



    A prototype Apple MoBo with very Dorsal like specs makes an appearance (and mysterious disappearance) on eBay.



    A few days later, a new member shows up very interested in Dorsal. This guy seems to know a lot about the boards but wants to know how to differentiate between 'Dorsals' <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />



    hmmmm...



    NARC! :eek:



    busted.



    Better stick to IP tracking and surveillance bots 'cause you suck at undercover. HAHAHA!



    Here's a novel way of killing leaks (and feel free to pass this on to Steve) OPEN THE DAMN GATES and release some MODERN PRO HARDWARE!
  • Reply 6 of 26
    foamyfoamy Posts: 55member
    1) Which Dorsal is really Dorsal?

    Does it matter? See below.



    2) How does he know so much?

    He doesn't know Jack Squat. Workerbee did. This guy/gal doesn't.



    3) Where does he work?

    See #1 and #2.



    4) Why does he post so intermitantly?

    To make is his "information" more mysterious and coveted.



    5) What does the majority of appleinsider feel about Dorsal, is he a liar or is he in the know?

    See responses to #1 - #4



    6) How would he have anything to do with the G5 unless he worked for either Apple or Motorola?

    He doesn't have any inside info, so it doesn't matter.



    7) Wouldnt his company fnd him out?

    See #6.



    Of course I could be 100% wrong and this character could be risking his job and possible legal ramifications just for an ego trip on AI of all places. Stranger things have happened re: workerbee.



    To summarize: I think Dorsal is full of proverbial Shite, but I could be wrong.
  • Reply 7 of 26
    defiantdefiant Posts: 4,876member
    [quote]Originally posted by Matsu:

    <strong>NARC! :eek: </strong><hr></blockquote>



    what means that ?
  • Reply 8 of 26
    eddivelyeddively Posts: 74member
    if you don't know NARC, you need to play more NES games..hahahahahaha..sorry too easy...

    to NARC on someone is to rat them out.
  • Reply 9 of 26
    [quote]Originally posted by Defiant:

    <strong>



    what means that ?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    A "narc" is slang for an undercover police officer who investigates narcotics crimes by trying to get involved in drug trading rings.



    Matsu is suggesting, with his trademark understated subtlety, that "fellow722" is an Apple agent with nothing better to do than to hang around on the AppleInsider forums looking for people breaking NDAs.
  • Reply 10 of 26
    defiantdefiant Posts: 4,876member
    thanks you both...



    i understood that matsu was saying that our fellow was from apple, but didn't understood NARC.

    Now I do, thank you !
  • Reply 11 of 26
    macintoshmacintosh Posts: 22member
    What the hell? I come here and I read a bit about some of the G5 information because it interests me and I am suddenly FROM APPLE?



    I was reading and found a lot of information provided by a "Dorsal" and I wanted to know if he is indeed a fake or an appleinsider of some kind.



    Please people, I am just a nice fellow that is interested in Apple news and rumors.
  • Reply 12 of 26
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />







    <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
  • Reply 13 of 26
    addisonaddison Posts: 1,185member
    "He would say that, wouldn't he?"



    Mandy Rice-Davies
  • Reply 14 of 26
    programmerprogrammer Posts: 3,458member
    There's a term for you people: "clinical paranoia".
  • Reply 15 of 26
    andersanders Posts: 6,523member
    Hey Programmer. Are you one of "them"?
  • Reply 16 of 26
    glurxglurx Posts: 1,031member
    <a href="http://www.lostsheep.com/paranoid.asp"; target="_blank">Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean...</a>
  • Reply 17 of 26
    overtoastyovertoasty Posts: 439member
    [quote]Originally posted by fellow722:

    <strong>



    Please people, I am just a nice fellow that is interested in Apple news and rumors.



    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    "... it's people like you wot cause unrest"
  • Reply 18 of 26
    [quote]Originally posted by fellow722:

    <strong>Please people, I am just a nice fellow that is interested in Apple news and rumors. </strong><hr></blockquote>





    HAH! fellows 1-721 said the same thing, and they turned out to be androids running BeOS on quad-68020 positronic matrices! We're not falling for it this time!



    Junkyard Dawg! Applenut! Get the Torx screwdrivers! We'll take this mole apart and see what makes him tick!



    (Holds an System 7.6 diskette threateningly) We have ways of making you talk...



    [ 05-05-2002: Message edited by: ColorClassicG4 ]</p>
  • Reply 19 of 26
    macintoshmacintosh Posts: 22member
    [quote]Originally posted by ColorClassicG4:

    <strong>





    HAH! fellows 1-721 said the same thing, and they turned out to be androids running BeOS on quad-68020 positronic matrices! We're not falling for it this time!



    Junkyard Dawg! Applenut! Get the Torx screwdrivers! We'll take this mole apart and see what makes him tick!



    (Holds an System 7.6 diskette threateningly) We have ways of making you talk...



    [ 05-05-2002: Message edited by: ColorClassicG4 ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Making me talk?
  • Reply 20 of 26
    macintoshmacintosh Posts: 22member
    Lets go over to real time AI chat.
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