What do you all think of this?

cobra

From Architosh:



<a href="http://www.architosh.com/news/2002-05/2002c1-0513-server-1.phtml"; target="_blank">http://www.architosh.com/news/2002-05/2002c1-0513-server-1.phtml</A>;





Have at it guys.

sc_markt

I don't see Apple using the MPC8540. I think its reasonably possible that these new servers will have the G5. By MWNY, the powermac G5's for us consumers should be ready.



I find it strange that this server announcement is in a 3hr time frame. Maybe Steve needs time to talk about the a$$ kicking G5 in them.



Sorry for being an optimist...

cobra

Whats interesting about this whole thing is just not the servers themselves but whats in them.



It may give us an idea of what to expect in future PM's.

amorph

The idea of a machine with specialized CPUs is cool, and it might be able to make up for the 8540's lack of AltiVec support (and floating point, which was not mentioned). That depends on just how integer-intensive most of its server tasks are. Precedent: The iPod, whose twin processors are separated in terms of tasks, if not in terms of type.



On the other hand: 24 PCI slots?? This ain't no minicomputer. Unless Apple is going to try something cockamamie like PCI over high speed optical fiber?



I can almost see no SCSI, but not quite. It's still the standard for RAID. ATA-100? Uh, for what? There won't be any HDDs on board. 24 serial ports? FireWire over PCI? No Apple northbridge (or, more radically: Apple's still going with a Northbridge/Southbridge)?



I get the point that Apple could release something really hot, but I don't think this is it. And I'd be really surprised if the MPC8540 factored into it anywhere.



But then, I'm not an engineer.

jrc

multiple G4s and G5s?



That'd be a good starting point for the next iMacs!



Or iPad.



Just make it small enough to be in my kitchen and with just a basic metal exterior.

macommentary

I wouldn't be supprised if he has to demo:



-new rackmounts (obviously)

-connectivity

-1 or 2 apps on a few llinked together

-an industry professional talking about something

-new version of OSX Server

-early demo of the mac version of the Nothing Real software



That could take maybe 2+ hrs

addison

I am sure that the MPC8540 won't make it to the server as it would kill the sales of the Powermacs. Powermacs are already struggling with the competition from the new LCD iMac hence the recent special offers.

fran441

You have to remember that Jobs is talking to the media here. This isn't Macworld- you don't want to bore them. Generally, you sink your putt and move on. 3+ hours, though? That's a lot of time for Q&A.



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mistermacmike

The proposed spces say that the mobo config. can support UP TO 24 PCI slots. I know of NO machine that comes with that many internally, certainly not a 2U rackmount. This is something that probably would allow an external PCI chassis to be used for more cards, or something else along those lines...

-mike

programmer

I didn't think the 8450 would be ready in quantity yet. I also think that mixing the 7455 and 8450 in the same machine is a silly idea. Introducing a rackmount server built on the 8450, however, is a very good idea -- especially if the CPU daughtercards are socketed. Server farmers could then buy a rackmounted box or two (or many more) with one processor each, and add processors without requiring more rack space as they need them. I doubt such a machine would have so many PCI slots -- this just doesn't seem like what is needed in a rackmount, but I could be wrong about that (I have zero experience with such machines). Perhaps there would be two or three sizes of box, some with PCI slots and some without.



If such a machine does show up it bodes very well for the coming PowerMac update. An early move to RapidIO probably means a desktop CPU is coming soon that supports it, and all that entails. It also means there is already a 64-bit version of MacOSX.



Note that we heard nothing about a 64-bit MacOSX coming out of WWDC, where it would really make a great deal of sense to talk about it since it affects developers who want to take advantage of it.

exercise in frivolity

[quote]Originally posted by Programmer:

Note that we heard nothing about a 64-bit MacOSX coming out of WWDC, where it would really make a great deal of sense to talk about it since it affects developers who want to take advantage of it.[/QB]<hr></blockquote>



Note the NDAs attendees had to sign...Even though they don't stop everyone, it is too soon to say that they didn't talk about 64-bit OS X there.

naepstn

[quote]Originally posted by Addison:

<strong>I am sure that the MPC8540 won't make it to the server as it would kill the sales of the Powermacs. Powermacs are already struggling with the competition from the new LCD iMac hence the recent special offers.</strong><hr></blockquote>



There should basically be no canabalization of sales of Powermacs by the servers (except for the existing G4 Tower Servers). These things are not going to be cheap by any means. Also, with onboard video (probably about Rage 128 level), and no AGP slot, not many people will be buying them for desktop use. They serve completely different purposes, and I don't think that you will see these rackmounts be any cheaper than an equivalent desktop machine. I guess we'll find out soon!

junkyard dawg

LOL, Architosh is without doubt among the worst Mac rumor sites, almost but not quite as bad as SpyMac.



Combination G4 and G5 CPUs? LOL!! Of course, the Darwin kernel will just divert altivec code to the G4, and the G5 will crunch the rest of the code! What a brilliant prediction! This guy should work for Apple, he could design some bitchin' new concepts, like a new



PowerTower Monster Mac!



Dual 1 GHz G4s for screaming altivec code!

2 GHz G5 for crunching non-altivec code belched out by the G4s!!

10 1 GHz Sahara G3s for controlling PCI-X, for 100 total PCI slots! (10 per G3) And instead of 66 MHz, each PCI slot will of course be 100 MHz!!





Yeah, Architosh is your source for the skinny on Apple hardware!



Yes, this is the SAME Architosh that reported on the G5 test mules last december, of course 1.4, 1.6, 1.8 GHz G5s would be ready for MWSF 2002! Oh, they aren't here? What happened to all the test mules?

bobthetomato

[quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:

<strong>Yes, this is the SAME Architosh that reported on the G5 test mules last december, of course 1.4, 1.6, 1.8 GHz G5s would be ready for MWSF 2002! Oh, they aren't here? What happened to all the test mules?</strong><hr></blockquote>



Everyone knows mules can't reproduce.....

matsu

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...message boards may be the best thing about macs.

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