Hard Drive, New Computer, External DVD Burner?

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
I am very into making DV Movies and I need massive hard drive space or some means of saving enormous ammounts of footage.



Do I buy an external HD that would filll up in a metter of months or buy an external DVD Burner that has endless storage space via DVD's? Or the less considerable option of buying a new computer? I need suggestions.



I am seriously considering a DVD Burner but which one?
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  • Reply 1 of 26
    corvettecorvette Posts: 561member
    I would get some firewire Hard drives, maybe 2 120gig ones. THey are pretty fast and very large. With DVD burners you waste time burning and you can't use them as seamless.

    But if you want a DVD burner to actually make DVDs, then that is another story.
  • Reply 2 of 26
    [quote]Originally posted by corvette:

    <strong>I would get some firewire Hard drives, maybe 2 120gig ones. THey are pretty fast and very large. With DVD burners you waste time burning and you can't use them as seamless.

    But if you want a DVD burner to actually make DVDs, then that is another story.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I would like the DVD Burner because it would be the best of both worlds.
  • Reply 3 of 26
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    you would need dvd burning software to burn DVDs though.
  • Reply 4 of 26
    webberwebber Posts: 12member
    if you're buying an external dvd-r drive, keep in mind that iDVD doesn't support them (yet? come on apple...). you'd need to use iDVD Studio Pro ($1000).



    or, you could buy an internal dvr-ao3 for $415 and stick it in your tower in place of whatever came with your machine. then you can trick idvd to burn to it.
  • Reply 5 of 26
    I have a Cube though? Why the heck cant iDVD work with a third party burner?
  • Reply 6 of 26
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    [quote]Originally posted by Macintosh:

    <strong>I have a Cube though? Why the heck cant iDVD work with a third party burner?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    did your computer come with iDVD? no.



    that's why Apple doesn't make it work. they want to sell computers not third party burners
  • Reply 7 of 26
    But they could sell a ton more of their blank DVD's. I think they are making a financial mistake here.
  • Reply 8 of 26
    dogcowdogcow Posts: 713member
    Just a question. But why would you need to keep everything on drives? I suggest keeping everything on tape, neatly labed and keep a log. In the log just list the time code, tape name, and a short discription of the clip. Keep the log on your computer so you can quickly search it. Now you have all your video, cheaply stored in its orginal format and you can quickly find footage.



    If you talking about stuff you've edited, then why not just move it back to a tape once your done editing it then wipe it off your drive? I have a 40 gig external FW drive and this is exactly what i do.
  • Reply 9 of 26
    I find the idea of exporting to tape just as expensive in the long run because you would have to buy new tapes when I could burn 90 minutes of footage to a $4 disk instead of buying a 4 pack of Mini DV tapes for 15 dollars.



    Tapes can be reused.
  • Reply 10 of 26
    Basically I need a new iMac...I guess that what Apple is counting on.
  • Reply 11 of 26
    webberwebber Posts: 12member
    [quote]Originally posted by Macintosh:

    <strong>I have a Cube though? Why the heck cant iDVD work with a third party burner?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    i've asked around about this before because i want to get my dad (with a cube) an external dvd burner. my little bro still living at home makes a ton of great iMovies. and dad wants to make massive slideshows of his digi photos on dvd for enjoyment and archival purposes.



    what i'm told is that apple hasn't gottten around to adding firewire support into idvd which is why it can't recognize the external drives.



    and the superdrive is physically bigger (longer) than the optical drives in the cube, so you can't just swap them like you can in the tower. space is too damn tight in there.



    there are rumors of an updated iMovie at MWT. maybe iDVD will be update too with external burner support? i'm hoping, but not holding my breath.



    the superdrive imac is such a great deal though, it's almost not worth waiting for external support they may never add. depends on your budget i guess. still, sucks for apple to leave that out, even if it is a good business decision that gets more new machines sold.
  • Reply 12 of 26
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    Just go for a Firewire HD or two. I think that's your best bet.
  • Reply 13 of 26
    Any suggestions?
  • Reply 14 of 26
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by Macintosh:

    <strong>Any suggestions?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    About what? It seems like people have answered your original question. What are you asking now?
  • Reply 15 of 26
    What kind of external hd's should I look at?
  • Reply 16 of 26
    LOL, Cubes suck! I said so when they came out, and got flamed for it, but really, for what Apple charged for those cubes, it's pathetic that they are not expandable.
  • Reply 17 of 26
    [quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:

    <strong>LOL, Cubes suck! I said so when they came out, and got flamed for it, but really, for what Apple charged for those cubes, it's pathetic that they are not expandable.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Thanks for the help!
  • Reply 18 of 26
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    [quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:

    <strong>LOL, Cubes suck! I said so when they came out, and got flamed for it, but really, for what Apple charged for those cubes, it's pathetic that they are not expandable.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    yea right. the processor can be expanded currently to a dual 500, the graphic crd is upgradable, the ram is expandable to 1.5GB, the hard drive is upgradable and it has a port for all your needs.



    what, because the vertically mounted optical drive isn't easily replaced its clasified as not expandable by you?





    Macintosh,



    people have given you advice. and instead of accepting it you just knock down every suggestion. if you know what you want then don't ask in the first place.
  • Reply 19 of 26
    cosmonutcosmonut Posts: 4,872member
    [quote]Originally posted by Macintosh:

    <strong>...a 4 pack of Mini DV tapes for 15 dollars.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Where can you find a 4-pack of MiniDV for $15?! <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" />
  • Reply 20 of 26
    M, you do know that you don't need to save all the footage that you crop to make your 2 minute vignettes...





    Unless you plan on making a feature film anytime soon, you probably don't need more than a 40-60 gig HD. Frankly, biggest editing project I ever did was about an hour and a half's worth of footage. All that was needed for that was a 30 gig drive. The final movie, you generally don't keep the uncompressed DV on your computer. You re-export it to tape, or to QT high quality. Then, you delete the DV stream files OFF your HD. Frankly, you don't need any more than about 20-30 gigs of free space unless you're doing some seriously hardcore movie work.



    DVD burner is stupid. It takes a hell of a lot of time to burn a DVD disc- not what you want for storage space. While the DVD burner capability is nice, you would have to buy DVD Studio Pro (for $999) to use it.



    Apple makes no profit on blank DVD discs. NONE. Therefore, there's not any reason for them to want to sell more of them. They're in the business of selling computers to gullible people who are convinced they need the latest and the greatest to do whatever they want to do. You just got a DV camera. You're suddenly SO interested in it that you're planning to drop another ~500-1000 bucks on this hobby? Are you sure you're really interested, and not just caught in the RDF about how great making home movies with iMovie is and burning them with iDVD? Think about it for a bit. If your best work is capturing some big-boned teacher lumbering up some stairs without her knowing it, really, don't continue this hobby. You ain't cut out for it.



    However, if you plan on becoming Spielberg then by all means, buy yourself an external FW hard drive (40 gigs or so) and go to town. That should be plenty of room to fill with your teacher's big ass or whatever you find funny.



    Finally, I urge you, do not start whining about getting a new iMac again. Not here, not where I can see it. I promise you, my disdain for that type of behavior is less than that of most users around here.
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