Yeah, but is it pretty on the inside?

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
took apart my first new iMac the other night, thought some of you might be interested to see what they look like.



i was really surprised to see they had different chips for RAM. i was also surprised by how much room there actually was, and the size of the heatsink inside.



all in all, much easier to take apart than the older iMacs, and a hell of a lot easier to work on.









for anyone who wants, the original (larger) images are <a href="http://www.alcimedes.com/imac_shell.jpg"; target="_blank">here</a> and <a href="http://www.alcimedes.com/imac_guts.jpg"; target="_blank">here</a>.





i think my athlon would blow up in under 5 minutes with a heatsink that small. and as far as i can tell, that puppy is way smaller than what you see in the G4 towers. i wonder if the chip in there really runs that much cooler, or if the design is that much better for heat exchange.



also, does anyone know what that large metal bar on the right hand side is for? i wasn't really up for pulling and prying things here and there since the machine isn't mine.



-alcimedes



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  • Reply 1 of 22
    spartspart Posts: 2,060member
    Yeah...I have a PDF of the iMac being taken completely apart step by step..it's not very beautiful on the inside IMO.
  • Reply 2 of 22
    spartspart Posts: 2,060member
    [quote]Originally posted by alcimedes:

    <strong>i think my athlon would blow up in under 5 minutes with a heatsink that small. and as far as i can tell, that puppy is way smaller than what you see in the G4 towers. i wonder if the chip in there really runs that much cooler, or if the design is that much better for heat exchange.



    also, does anyone know what that large metal bar on the right hand side is for? i wasn't really up for pulling and prying things here and there since the machine isn't mine.



    -alcimedes</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Hmm...I'm impressed if that's the heatsink...im guessing the bar transfers heat to the outer metal shell (giant bell thing plus the bottom cover. Now I think I know the reason for all that stuff about making sure to apply the thermal paste/pads...
  • Reply 3 of 22
    splinemodelsplinemodel Posts: 7,311member
    Also Likely: the processor may well be a 7410/7440. Does anyone know? The 7410 doesn't produce much heat. I know because my hands are about 1 cm away from one of them right now.
  • Reply 4 of 22
    spartspart Posts: 2,060member
    [quote]Originally posted by Splinemodel:

    <strong>Also Likely: the processor may well be a 7410/7440. Does anyone know? The 7410 doesn't produce much heat. I know because my hands are about 1 cm away from one of them right now.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Try putting that TiBook on your lap.
  • Reply 5 of 22
    alcimedesalcimedes Posts: 5,486member
    lol, now that i have that new RAM in there the machine is kernal panicking at least 4 - 5 times a day. not a good sign. guess it's time to send a chip or two back. hope it's the easily accesible one.....
  • Reply 6 of 22
    thegeldingthegelding Posts: 3,230member
    did you remember to replace the thermal paste and thermal pads when you put it back together?? g
  • Reply 7 of 22
    splinemodelsplinemodel Posts: 7,311member
    [quote]Originally posted by Spart:

    <strong>



    Try putting that TiBook on your lap.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    It's not that bad. Done it before. Obviously it's warm, but it's really not too bad.
  • Reply 8 of 22
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    [quote]Originally posted by Spart:

    <strong>Yeah...I have a PDF of the iMac being taken completely apart step by step..it's not very beautiful on the inside IMO.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    are you kidding? it's gorgeous. look at that motherboard. Apple may not have the latest technologies on their motherboards but they sure as hell do a great job designing them.



    [quote]quote:

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Originally posted by Spart:



    Try putting that TiBook on your lap.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------



    It's not that bad. Done it before. Obviously it's warm, but it's really not too bad. <hr></blockquote>



    do you own a 667? doesn't sound like it
  • Reply 9 of 22
    torifiletorifile Posts: 4,024member
    Are you insane? I would never do that to an iMac if I was fortunate enough to have one.



    BTW, my Ti doesn't get THAT hot. It gets a little toasty, but I'm pretty used it. Just hope it doesn't shrink my balls or anything <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
  • Reply 10 of 22
    spartspart Posts: 2,060member
    [quote]Originally posted by thegelding:

    <strong>did you remember to replace the thermal paste and thermal pads when you put it back together?? g</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Yes...if you didn't do that it may be a good idea to get some. The PDF (made by Apple for techs) was really finicky about this...my guess is the iMac really relies on that big bell housing to help draw heat away from that G4.
  • Reply 11 of 22
    macaddictmacaddict Posts: 1,055member
    Holy crap. That's a heatsink? Hell, my Athlon mobo has a HS and fan for the northbridge! :eek:
  • Reply 12 of 22
    alcimedesalcimedes Posts: 5,486member
    anyone have a link to that .pdf file? sounds like an interesting read.



    edit: nevermind, i looked around a while and found it.



    and i must say i was floored by how small everything was inside the iMac. not the mention how much more room there was. anyone who's taken apart one of the old iMacs knows that it was really tight in there, this one had a lot of room (relative to total size) that was left open. i was really impressed with the design.



    if anyone wants closer/better images of a particular part let me know now. i'll have it taken apart again tonight to test which RAM chip is bad.



    edit: well shit. i wonder if those kernal panics are due to the proc. overheating. always a possibility. guess i'll take this sucker apart and throw some thermal paste on that connector.



    i got tubes of artic silver sitting around. thank god for OC'ing athlons.



    although i'm still not sure why the paste would need to be reapplied just because i took it apart for a few min.



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  • Reply 13 of 22
    thegeldingthegelding Posts: 3,230member
    seems it "likes" fresh paste each time it is opened....may not need to replace the pads everytime, but the paste is very important...g
  • Reply 14 of 22
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    Heat reduces sperm count.
  • Reply 15 of 22
    alcimedesalcimedes Posts: 5,486member
    lol, so i can just put my laptop on my lap all day long and my wife can stop buying BC pills?



    sweet!
  • Reply 16 of 22
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    I sat on a microwave oven for a few minutes. That took care of my problems.
  • Reply 17 of 22
    owl boyowl boy Posts: 61member
    [quote]Originally posted by Outsider:

    <strong>I sat on a microwave oven for a few minutes. That took care of my problems. </strong><hr></blockquote>



    eee.



    -Owl
  • Reply 18 of 22
    spartspart Posts: 2,060member
    [quote]Originally posted by alcimedes:

    <strong>lol, so i can just put my laptop on my lap all day long and my wife can stop buying BC pills?



    sweet! </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Notice he said "reduces." Would take a fair bit of heat to completely eliminate...like 115° F constant or so...optimal temp is 97° F....why are we talking about this again?
  • Reply 19 of 22
    alcimedesalcimedes Posts: 5,486member
    alright, final word on this i think, although i'll want to run tests for a few days before i say for sure.



    looks like either the thermal paste or the case not being screwed on tight enough was the problem.



    after seeing how heat is transferred off the processor, i can understand why.



    also turns out that apple uses some kinda crappy thermal paste. it was baked onto the metal. not what you normally look for in thermal paste. in any case, threw some artic silver on that puppy and it's been smooth sailing ever since.



    anyone know of a good freeware app to show me my CPU temp on a mac?



    -alcimedes
  • Reply 20 of 22
    torifiletorifile Posts: 4,024member
    [quote]Originally posted by Spart:

    <strong>



    Notice he said "reduces." Would take a fair bit of heat to completely eliminate...like 115° F constant or so...optimal temp is 97° F....why are we talking about this again?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I think it was my comment about the Ti's ability to shrink balls if left on laps too long. Sorry about that...
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