China reportedly defers banking technology regulations, relieves pressure on foreign firms

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in General Discussion edited March 2015
China has reportedly agreed to delay a rollout of regulations that would restrict state-operated banks from purchasing or employing foreign equipment and technology.




Citing an unnamed U.S. official, Reuters reports U.S. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew met with Chinese officials, including Premier Li Keqiang, in Beijing presumably to discuss concerns over security measures designed to protect state-backed banking institutions from outside threats.

While government officials did not comment on the matter, the publication said industry groups found the news promising. Specifically, the report mentions BSA The Software Alliance, which represents Apple, IBM, Microsoft, Oracle and others, as well as the Software and Information Industry Association, which represents a number of firms including Google.

Lew recognized China's strict banking protections could present problems for U.S. companies in the region, even if those rules are pending.

"We made clear that suspending them is the right approach," Lew said earlier.

China's decision particularly affects Apple, which is looking to expand its Apple Pay mobile payments service into international markets. As China represents Apple's largest area of potential growth, the country is expected to play a major role in the rollout.

Reports of China's procurement regulations first surfaced in January when western tech companies cried foul over what was deemed to be overly protectionist safeguards. Critics of such measures claim these proposed mandates could potentially hurt the global economy.

Today's report comes two weeks after China decided to halt work on a separate draft counter-terrorism law that would require foreign companies providing telecommunications services to install backdoors, furnish encryption keys and keep gathered data in China.

Earlier this year, Apple reportedly acquiesced to Chinese requests calling for regular product audits. It is not known if these security audits pertain to either China's banking technology regulations or anti-terror legislation.

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 10
    Wow. Clearly, Apple's relationship with China is symbiotic, rather than one-sided. Google must be gnawing it's fist with envy.
  • Reply 2 of 10
    cnocbuicnocbui Posts: 3,613member

    Google did the right thing morally.  No one seems to ever give them credit for that around here though.  Effectively thumbing your nose at them in glee is a bit tasteless.

     

    The advantage Apple has over Google is simply that they indirectly employ a lot of Chinese people and they spend a lot of money there.  Perhaps Tim was able to explain how unhelpful to this continuing state off affairs some of their legislative proposals might be.

     

    I suspect the Chinese have not in any way abandoned their Anti-Terror legislation but are perhaps just waiting for Apple to derive a bit more of their income from China before going ahead with it.

     

    If they do that.  Apple should pull out and look to India.

  • Reply 3 of 10
    ochymingochyming Posts: 474member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cnocbui View Post

     

    Google did the right thing morally.  No one seems to ever give them credit for that around here though.  Effectively thumbing your nose at them in glee is a bit tasteless.

     

    The advantage Apple has over Google is simply that they indirectly employ a lot of Chinese people and they spend a lot of money there.  Perhaps Tim was able to explain how unhelpful to this continuing state off affairs some of their legislative proposals might be.

     

    I suspect the Chinese have not in any way abandoned their Anti-Terror legislation but are perhaps just waiting for Apple to derive a bit more of their income from China before going ahead with it.

     

    If they do that.  Apple should pull out and look to India.


     

     

     

    Change comes incremetaly.

     

    USA and its companies have no moral ground.

    Plain simple. There are plenty of past and current affairs that support it.

     

    It is better to engage in healthy-dialogue than publicly-shaming stunts. 

  • Reply 4 of 10
    China has a horrific record of human rights abuses.

    I trust Tim Cook will be immediately boycotting it by pulling Apple out of China and not selling, researching or making any products there.

    Oh, he's more concerned with bakers in Indiana not baking cakes, you say?

    Got it.
  • Reply 5 of 10
    I don't understand the comments here re: Google vs. Apple impact. The change in policies would affect all technology companies, including Google, Apple, and all the others. Of course Apple stands to benefit because of their intention to launch Apple Pay in China, but I don't quite follow the anti-Google implications of this article.
  • Reply 6 of 10
    cnocbuicnocbui Posts: 3,613member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Slprescott View Post



    I don't understand the comments here re: Google vs. Apple impact. The change in policies would affect all technology companies, including Google, Apple, and all the others. Of course Apple stands to benefit because of their intention to launch Apple Pay in China, but I don't quite follow the anti-Google implications of this article.



    Google have next to no presence in China because they took the moral high ground and pulled out of the country when China demanded they censor their search results and Chinese government hackers attacked them and their clients.  What China does these days has relatively little impact on Google.  http://www.businessinsider.com/google-pulls-out-of-china-2010-3?op=1&IR=T

  • Reply 7 of 10
    cnocbui wrote: »
    slprescott wrote: »
    I don't understand the comments here re: Google vs. Apple impact. The change in policies would affect all technology companies, including Google, Apple, and all the others. Of course Apple stands to benefit because of their intention to launch Apple Pay in China, but I don't quite follow the anti-Google implications of this article.


    Google have next to no presence in China because they took the moral high ground and pulled out of the country when China demanded they censor their search results and Chinese government hackers attacked them and their clients.  What China does these days has relatively little impact on Google.  http://www.businessinsider.com/google-pulls-out-of-china-2010-3?op=1&IR=T

    Yes, I do agree that Google deserves credit for this.
  • Reply 8 of 10
    froodfrood Posts: 771member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Slprescott View Post



    I don't understand the comments here re: Google vs. Apple impact. The change in policies would affect all technology companies, including Google, Apple, and all the others. Of course Apple stands to benefit because of their intention to launch Apple Pay in China, but I don't quite follow the anti-Google implications of this article.

     

    The article is a positive move for US businesses in China.  Since Google has voluntarily stepped back from China, it is more 'good' for Apple than for Google.

     

    It would not be entirely fair to fault Apple for not shunning China until China improves in certain areas like Google has.  Apple is a traditional company and if Tim were to make a 'heart' decision rather than a business one regarding China his more 'vocal investors' like Greenlight and Icon would be screaming up a storm and could push for his ouster.  With Google's stock structure Larry and Sergey can't be ousted, by design all of the 'common shares' traded on the market combined do not hold the same voting rights as Larry's and Sergey's "supershares"   Larry & Sergey had the freedom to make the decision not to 'be evil' and they chose not to have Google support China's actions of censorship.  I'm not so sure it was the right one- and it certainly cost Larry, Sergey and Google shareholders a lot of dough.

  • Reply 9 of 10
    You make good points, but my original comment was brief and lacked nuance. I believe Larry and Sergey deserve credit for not bowing to the demands of the authoritarian Chinese government. Yet, we can see that a more cautious and engaged approach, as taken by Apple's more senior (literally) leaders has been more...effective. Some day, hopefully soonish, the Chinese government will realize that their censorship is futile and counterproductive. That realization will be sped along by engagement with free societies.
  • Reply 10 of 10
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    You make good points, but my original comment was brief and lacked nuance. I believe Larry and Sergey deserve credit for not bowing to the demands of the authoritarian Chinese government. Yet, we can see that a more cautious and engaged approach, as taken by Apple's more senior (literally) leaders has been more...effective. Some day, hopefully soonish, the Chinese government will realize that their censorship is futile and counterproductive. That realization will be sped along by engagement with free societies.

    Highly unlikely there will be any change in their government, unless there is widespread economic collapse in country. Signs point to their economy slowing, but that's a problem everywhere.
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