Second public beta of OS X 10.11.2 now available to Apple-approved testers

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in macOS edited November 2015
The second beta for Apple's next maintenance and software update for its OS X 10.11 El Capitan operating system is now available to members of the company's public beta program.




OS X 10.11.2 beta 2 can now be downloaded from the Mac App Store by registered users. The launch comes two days after the second beta build, identified as 15C31f, was supplied to developers.

The first beta of OS X 10.11.2 became available to public testers one week ago. Focus areas for the incremental update include Graphics, Mail, Wi-Fi, Calendar, USB, Notes, Photos and Spotlights.

Apple recently released OS X 10.11.1 to address issues with Office 2016, Mail, VoiceOver and minor bugs affecting certain users. The software update also included more than 150 new emoji characters, bringing it in parity with iOS 9.

Members of the public beta program can download the OS X 10.11.2 El Capitan maintenance update after signing in through the Apple Beta Software Program website.

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 20
    As I mentioned the developers beta before this one caused a "beach ball" issue on one of my three computers this beta fixed it so the public beta should work great. This a a very fast snappy update and after a week no issues

    As with all updates and beta updates it's always a good idea to throw out your cache folder (from your personal library), restart computer then empty the trash (don't try it without restarting first "you can't change a tire while cars' in motion") then after restart run permissions repair. A lot of issues occur when you don't do this basic maintenance. GRIN
  • Reply 2 of 20
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by razormaid View Post



    As I mentioned the developers beta before this one caused a "beach ball" issue on one of my three computers this beta fixed it so the public beta should work great. This a a very fast snappy update and after a week no issues



    As with all updates and beta updates it's always a good idea to throw out your cache folder (from your personal library), restart computer then empty the trash (don't try it without restarting first "you can't change a tire while cars' in motion") then after restart run permissions repair. A lot of issues occur when you don't do this basic maintenance. GRIN



    Thanks for the info I have never done this and just updated my computer 2 minutes ago and work great.

  • Reply 3 of 20
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by razormaid View Post



    As with all updates and beta updates it's always a good idea to throw out your cache folder (from your personal library), restart computer then empty the trash (don't try it without restarting first "you can't change a tire while cars' in motion") then after restart run permissions repair. A lot of issues occur when you don't do this basic maintenance. GRIN

     

    Do you actually follow this advice? Because permissions repair is gone with 10.11.

  • Reply 4 of 20
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by konqerror View Post

     

     

    Do you actually follow this advice? Because permissions repair is gone with 10.11.


    Ha, ha, BUSTED!!!

  • Reply 5 of 20
    finewine wrote: »
    Ha, ha, BUSTED!!!

    I originally meant run First Aid but actuality you still can repair permissions Hope you don't mind if I don't type how to do it out for you - I'm a little busy at the moment. Here's how 'ya do it now I just assumed you knew:
    http://osxdaily.com/2015/11/04/verify-repair-permissions-mac-os-x/
  • Reply 6 of 20
    What happened to the Keychain First Aid in Keychain Access? It's also not auto-filling my passwords for me in Safari.
  • Reply 7 of 20
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,727member
    razormaid wrote: »
    I originally meant run First Aid but actuality you still can repair permissions Hope you don't mind if I don't type how to do it out for you - I'm a little busy at the moment. Here's how 'ya do it now I just assumed you knew:
    http://osxdaily.com/2015/11/04/verify-repair-permissions-mac-os-x/

    Or you could believe Apple

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201560
  • Reply 8 of 20
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,727member
    bryaneh wrote: »
    What happened to the Keychain First Aid in Keychain Access? It's also not auto-filling my passwords for me in Safari.

    Wait, a few of us will use our telepathy powers then teleport there to help you ;)
  • Reply 9 of 20
    Or you could believe Apple

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201560

    <grin> Well evidently that only works 2 out of 3 times. You see two my three computers were GREAT! but my 3rd one using the exact superduper configuration gave me a gazillion spinning beach balls. Hum! So after reinstalling the GM of 10.11.1 then ran first aid, trashed the cache folder THEN repaired my permissions (that Apple claimed I didn't need to according to your article) then and only then did my third setup run like the first two using developers beta.

    As I explained to the people who wrote me privately thanking me for the suggestions, because it fixed their beach ball problems to... It's very dangerous giving suggestions on this site because everyone knows all the answers to everything that ever existed or ever will exist in the entire universe HOWEVER I was willing to take on all the "you're an idiot you should do it this way" comments if it could help even just 1 person. Yes I knew better than to take on all of you but I didn't post for all of you. I posted for someone, anyone else who encountered my "1 out of 3" problem. And for that I'm glad to have helped you guys out and your welcome. Now I'll go back to being invisible and you guys can "run the show" again

    Joseph
  • Reply 10 of 20
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post





    Wait, a few of us will use our telepathy powers then teleport there to help you image



    Well let me translate English for digitalclips:

     

    "Has Keychain First Aid disappeared for everyone else as well?"

     

    If you're not going to post helpful comments why post at all?

  • Reply 11 of 20
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,727member
    bryaneh wrote: »

    Well let me translate English for digitalclips:

    "Has Keychain First Aid disappeared for everyone else as well?"

    If you're not going to post helpful comments why post at all?

    Sorry, I was trying in a humorous way to ask for more information so we could offer help.

    i realize my humor often misses the mark ... ????
  • Reply 12 of 20
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,727member
    razormaid wrote: »
    <grin> Well evidently that only works 2 out of 3 times. You see two my three computers were GREAT! but my 3rd one using the exact superduper configuration gave me a gazillion spinning beach balls. Hum! So after reinstalling the GM of 10.11.1 then ran first aid, trashed the cache folder THEN repaired my permissions (that Apple claimed I didn't need to according to your article) then and only then did my third setup run like the first two using developers beta.

    As I explained to the people who wrote me privately thanking me for the suggestions, because it fixed their beach ball problems to... It's very dangerous giving suggestions on this site because everyone knows all the answers to everything that ever existed or ever will exist in the entire universe HOWEVER I was willing to take on all the "you're an idiot you should do it this way" comments if it could help even just 1 person. Yes I knew better than to take on all of you but I didn't post for all of you. I posted for someone, anyone else who encountered my "1 out of 3" problem. And for that I'm glad to have helped you guys out and your welcome. Now I'll go back to being invisible and you guys can "run the show" again

    Joseph

    Joseph, I did not call you an idiot, I was suggesting Apple's current advice often is better than the likes of articles in Mac enthusiast magazines and blogs, many of which are online yet years out of date.

    I have been helping folks fix Apple computers since 1978 so I have certainly done some time in the trenches. At one time or another I owned seven Apple dealerships all with in-house repair departments several looking after large corporates, several universities and hospitals etc. as well as the business and private users. I am well aware of the dangers and benefits of both giving and receiving advice online. One of the most scary places I see is the so called official Apple Support web site which is in fact not staffed by Apple staff rather users mostly giving each other dubious information and often times creating 'I have that too' situations based on coincidence.

    That said, I will offer some here. My number one piece of advice when it comes to Macs with any sort of issue is to first run Disk Warrior now at version 5, to check out the drive in question to determine if it is software relates, it usually is. It finds and fixes issues Apple Disk Utilities simply cannot. If you have more than one Mac the easiest way is to start the offending Mac in target mode and attach to the Mac running DW via Thunderbolt or FireWire or in some cases Thunderbolt to Firewire with an adapter if one Mac is new and one is old. If you don't have a second Mac then the solution is to create an alternative boot drive (there are numerous ways to do this), boot to that and run DW from there on the offending drive. It is fast, extremely safe and rebuilds damaged directories which are far more common than people might imagine. This damage causes slow downs, spinning beach balls and can lead to corrupt data.

    I have no affiliation with Aloft just decades of using their product to fix thousands of Macs over that time for clients. http://www.alsoft.com/DiskWarrior/

    Edit: typos
  • Reply 13 of 20
    Sorry, I was trying in a humorous way to ask for more information so we could offer help.

    i realize my humor often misses the mark ... ????

    No problem. Did you check Keychain Access? :p
  • Reply 14 of 20
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,727member
    bryaneh wrote: »
    No problem. Did you check Keychain Access? :p

    Apple just changed the interface, you must have upgraded from a an older OS X recently I assume:

    Resetting your keychain in Mac OS X
    If Keychain First Aid finds an issue that it can't repair, or if you don't know your keychain password, you might need to reset your keychain.

    Resetting a keychain sets aside the original default keychain file and creates a new one.
    To reset your keychain in Mac OS X 10.4, Mac OS X 10.5, and Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard or later:
    Open Keychain Access, which is in the Utilities folder within the Applications folder.
    From the Keychain Access menu, choose Preferences.
    Click General, then click Reset My Default Keychain.
    Authenticate with your account login password.
    Quit Keychain Access.
    Restart your computer.


    To reset your keychain in Mac OS X 10.3 through 10.3.9:
    Open Keychain Access, which is in the Utilities folder within the Applications folder.
    From the Window menu, choose Keychain First Aid.
    Click Options...
    Click Reset My Keychain, which is under the General pane.
    Authenticate with your account login password.
    Quit Keychain Access.
    Restart your computer.
  • Reply 15 of 20
    pmzpmz Posts: 3,433member

    My 5k iMac had an issue with this update, during one of the restarts it hung up on a black screen. The kind of thing that would make a normal user absolutely freak out and bombard the forums with Apple-hate.

     

    Booted into Safe Mode and it recovered on its own, finish the install properly. For reasons like this, I disagree with the sensibility of a "public beta". The very idea goes against better judgement.

  • Reply 16 of 20
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,727member
    pmz wrote: »
    My 5k iMac had an issue with this update, during one of the restarts it hung up on a black screen. The kind of thing that would make a normal user absolutely freak out and bombard the forums with Apple-hate.

    Booted into Safe Mode and it recovered on its own, finish the install properly. For reasons like this, I disagree with the sensibility of a "public beta". The very idea goes against better judgement.

    The betas are pre tested by developers too, we take the arrows in the front for you all ;) but I would not want to be on the support line for the public version!

    Not that I have ever had a problem with betas except one on a 2010 MBP a while back but it was pretty much alpha and I half expected it. Note: I do always have a Carbon Copy Clone of any boot drive before ever installing a beta, on any Mac.

    Good tip on Safe Mode,

    (note to newbies on Macs) plus don't forget Recovery Mode, which boots into the Recovery Partition (reboot holding Command R https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201314) rather than Safe Mode. You can run Disk Utilities from there although if that still fails - booting to an alternative drive to run utilities is always available. But, yes OS X is pretty good at self healing these days.

    I envy your 5K screen! :)
  • Reply 17 of 20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post





    Apple just changed the interface, you must have upgraded from a an older OS X recently I assume:



    Resetting your keychain in Mac OS X

    If Keychain First Aid finds an issue that it can't repair, or if you don't know your keychain password, you might need to reset your keychain.



    Resetting a keychain sets aside the original default keychain file and creates a new one.

    To reset your keychain in Mac OS X 10.4, Mac OS X 10.5, and Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard or later:

    Open Keychain Access, which is in the Utilities folder within the Applications folder.

    From the Keychain Access menu, choose Preferences.

    Click General, then click Reset My Default Keychain.

    Authenticate with your account login password.

    Quit Keychain Access.

    Restart your computer.





    To reset your keychain in Mac OS X 10.3 through 10.3.9:

    Open Keychain Access, which is in the Utilities folder within the Applications folder.

    From the Window menu, choose Keychain First Aid.

    Click Options...

    Click Reset My Keychain, which is under the General pane.

    Authenticate with your account login password.

    Quit Keychain Access.

    Restart your computer.

     

    Keychain First Aid was there in 10.11.2 public beta 1 and it looked like this:

     

    image

     

    But, I am having issues with Keychain Access not filling in my passwords in Safari. From the Apple support document that you quoted, it says to reset your Keychain if "Keychain First Aid finds an issue that it can't repair." The problem is I would like to run First Aid to see if it can repair the issue before I totally reset the keychain and set it aside, but Keychain First Aid is nowhere to be found. It looks the same as the above pic, but there isn't Keychain First Aid above the Certificate Assistant and I couldn't find it in any of the other menus. I did reset my keychain in public beta 1, but it didn't fix the issue. The problem started when I first installed El Capitan. Do you have Keychain First Aid in your menu? Thanks for the help.

  • Reply 18 of 20
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,727member
    bryaneh wrote: »
    Keychain First Aid was there in 10.11.2 public beta 1 and it looked like this:

     
    20140221_Keychain_Access_Menu.jpg

    <span style="line-height:1.4em;">But, I am having issues with Keychain Access not filling in my passwords in Safari. From the Apple support document that you quoted, it says to reset your Keychain if "</span>
    Keychain First Aid finds an issue that it can't repair<span style="line-height:1.4em;">." The problem is I would like to run First Aid to see if it can repair the issue before I totally reset the keychain and set it aside, but Keychain First Aid is nowhere to be found. It looks the same as the above pic, but there isn't Keychain First Aid above the Certificate Assistant and I couldn't find it in any of the other menus. I did reset my keychain in public beta 1, but it didn't fix the issue. The problem started when I first installed El Capitan. Do you have Keychain First Aid in your menu? Thanks for the help.</span>


    Something weird going on for sure ... I am trying to research this :)

    Yes, it seems to have vanished in 10.11.2!
  • Reply 19 of 20

    Just found it on the internet, but that is what the menu looked like on beta 1 (minus the font). 

     

    Does your Keychain Access have the First Aid menu? Mine doesn't anymore since beta 2. Should be just above the Certificate Assistant.

     

     

    I now got passwords working again in Safari, but for some reason all of my passwords (login, username, and iCloud) all deleted themselves off of my Mac. I tried restoring from Time Machine (no go), and toggling iCloud keychain on and off (complete with deleting off of the Mac). Didn't work. I guess I'll just submit Feedback.

  • Reply 20 of 20
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,727member
    bryaneh wrote: »
    Just found it on the internet, but that is what the menu looked like on beta 1 (minus the font). 

    Does your Keychain Access have the First Aid menu? Mine doesn't anymore since beta 2. Should be just above the Certificate Assistant.

    <img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="65097" data-type="61" src="http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/65097/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 189px">


    I now got passwords working again in Safari, but for some reason all of my passwords (login, username, and iCloud) all deleted themselves off of my Mac. I tried restoring from Time Machine (no go), and toggling iCloud keychain on and off (complete with deleting off of the Mac). Didn't work. I guess I'll just submit Feedback.

    Nope, I am the same as you. I'd wait for the next beta update if I were you. I was going to say delete everything on Keychain and start over but that can be a pain. Maybe the first aid will be back next update.

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