New "update" is broken.
The "comments" link in articles is now broken. There is no element on the page with id="comments" so the #comments link goes nowhere.
I would like to comment on this article: http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/12/03/apples-federighi-positions-open-sourced-swift-as-primary-scalable-programming-language
Yet, the "comments" link is broken, and I can't find the article in the forum.
This change clearly needed more testing before deploying.
I would like to comment on this article: http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/12/03/apples-federighi-positions-open-sourced-swift-as-primary-scalable-programming-language
Yet, the "comments" link is broken, and I can't find the article in the forum.
This change clearly needed more testing before deploying.
Comments
The quote button is obviously one of them and linking up the comments to the front page. In the mean-time, just add comments directly to the articles but suggestions about the forum itself should go in Feedback.
For people who used the newposts link before to see the most recently discussed topics, that seems to be the following link now:
http://forums.appleinsider.com/discussions
and from what I can see it greys out ones you have read.
The quote button is functional now.
- No way to reply to a comment.
- No way to see who’s online.
- No way to up/down vote.
- No gravatars.
- No writers’ credit: all articles are still published by "Kasper's Automated Slave”.
- No more that 16 emoji’s.
- No history to be searched.
- No search in posters comments.
- No sort order in posters comments.
- No Top 10 of Most Popular Threads.
- No Top 10 of most liked posts. Not for the Previous Week. Not for the Previous Month. No Top 10 for All Time.
I’m interested what is being done to the current ‘situation’. Is AppleInsider going to test another Forum Software Vendor, or have they already done so and decided this was the best available? If you’d like I could ‘beta test stuff’ for you guys and try to point out shortcomings, bugs, feature requests - the like. Just say The Word.Are infractions and penalties gone from the new forum, or are they just invisible?
I need to see mine, as I always seem to be a hair away from being booted recently.
I'm not sure if I like the new layout, because it doesn't look like a forum anymore IMO.
I think it would be better having members more involved in policing each other's comments to an extent. I had considered that having a nested comment system might work better but it's not always optimal layout-wise. Replies to a particular comment would get grouped together and if people didn't like that whole conversation, they could just collapse and hide the entire conversation with one click. If lots of people were hiding it then mods/admins could see this and hide it from everyone with one click and just let the people involved in it continue if it was going off-topic. Not only that, if someone blocked a member then it would hide their comments and any replies to them so as far as that person was concerned, that member would be gone from the forum. There might be an option to do this with a tagging system to avoid screwing up the layout. Nested layouts make it harder to see all the new comments.
There will always be members that people don't like and moderation mainly covers abuse and it can never be the case that the forum can only have the members that any one person likes so that needs a way for people to manage their own personal space better. If members were blocking and hiding someone a lot then there can be a message sent to that member that this is happening to encourage them to make more constructive comments.
The timeout bans were mostly to prevent someone derailing a thread further but this can be done more easily by just locking someone out of a discussion if they leave abusive or offensive comments so that might be the route taken in future. There would have to still be some kind of ban feature but how it works doesn't have to be determined by a 3rd party. The way it worked before is if someone was frequently abusive, it started banning after each instance. If someone was abusive over a period of years then it didn't ban at all. So someone who had made 20 abusive out of 20 total posts over the space of 5 years wouldn't be banned but someone who had made 20 out of 1000 posts in 6 months would be banned multiple times. It makes sense in a way but other methods can be just as effective.
It seems to be a more flexible platform now so there's more freedom to implement custom functionality. It can't always be implemented overnight though and some features can be too complex to put in place.
Major transitions are always difficult, but this one will absolutely be for the better for everyone in the long run. Ultimately, we had no real agency with Huddler and that was preventing us from doing some of the things you guys wanted us to do, and/or that we, internally, felt we should be doing. Transition to the new forums is just step one.
Bear with us while we work out the kinks, and thanks for being a part of our community!
Is is there an official link where we should be making suggestions or bringing issues to your attention?
In my opinion AI should use some open source platform or at least something that has editable code, host it on an enterprise cloud service and never be burdened with dealing with an outside forum vendor again.
I agree completely, which is why that is exactly what we did : )