Sign the Petition
I'm new to these boards, but just thought I would pass this out as I'm sure some of you may wish to sign...
<a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/iTol/petition.html"; target="_blank">Petition</a>
Correct the URL...
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<a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/iTol/petition.html"; target="_blank">Petition</a>
Correct the URL...
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<strong>I'm new to these boards, but just thought I would pass this out as I'm sure some of you may wish to sign...
<a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/iTol/petition.html"; target="_blank">Petition</a>
Correct the URL...
[ 07-17-2002: Message edited by: airfail ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
AH! Now I know we are in NYC! Come up to the Upper West Side and there are a zillion others you can sign,
"...Sine petitionus:
That thing reads like it was written by a 13-year-old! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
I wouldn't touch that monstrosity with a 10-meter pole!
If you are on the internet, persumably you already have an email address, or multiple email addresses?
If you don't, you may want to change the IPS provider you have, but I thought all IPS's provided some sort of email address????
Also, don't some services like iWon or Yahoo provide free email addresses??
What am I missing??
That petition is the biggest pile of whining rot I have read in a while. With the dot com bust, didn't we all lose free services? Have none of these people had to change their email addy before? If you don't want .mac, then don't pay for it. If you want free email, use Hotmail of yahoo (though hotmail ain't what it used to be and will soon be pretty much unusable except for paid users I think).
If Apple can no longer afford to continue to offer these services for free, what would you prefer they do? Cancel the services entirely? When all those dot com freebies died off, we didn't get the chance to pay for their services, they just stopped.
Does anyone bitching understand how a marKet economy works? At it's most basic, it mean "YOU GET WHAT YOU F*CKING PAY FOR!!!"
If Apple was to start giving away free iPods with every TiBook and hyped it as an advantage, these same people would bitch when Apple stopped. And you know Apple would have to stop...it's would unreasonably drain resources from the company.
get a grip people.
I think Apple should have left the basic options of iTools alone as it starts .Mac. Then, they could charge for advanced, other, or broader services. No one would be upset. It would cost them the same amount of money as it is costing to maintain the services now. Plus, they would begin gaining additional income as people join. If the Mac population is angered to black-listing this service, it will have a hard start, and it may not be able to take off at all. The Mac user base is fickle and touchy about their products. For some reason, we take it as ours. We did not make the machine. We do not design the software. We just buy and use it. However, it is personal to us, and this spirt helps propel the Mac platform. It will draw people to it, also.
I think 100.00 will be great in a year or two from now. For now, it is ridiculous, and it is taking away something which was free at 8am today (well..'till Sept 30 midnight...). If the e-mail address, alone, was left untouched by the demand for a price on the service, people may complain (they always do...), but I doubt there would be a petition and such an outrage.
There should be several choices along a few price points. It is good business. The service should increase, and they could charge at this new level. They should not be making an underlying demand to their user-base. We have no other choice--pay or lose it. I do not use it enough to justify paying, and therefore if things remain the same, I will lose hours of work on pages, have to change my address over many web pages (where I am a member or receive aa news letter), and spend some effort backing up this data before it is gone. I have 75 days. It is plenty of time, and Apple has a right to make this choice. But I think it is a poor choice overall. We would be more likely to focus on the possible benifits if we did not feel cheated by it. I am not saying we are cheated by it. it was a nice gift to be free for so long. however, I do understand the outrage, and I cannot say I am happy with Apple's choice at all.
However i signed up..it would have been alot of hassle to change all my work things to another address....and I have to say that .mac is actually a pretty sweet set up...
Back up is 'very' polished, and when syncing with work/home machines is introduced it will be even better...
I paid £30, and for that price it is not that bafd a pill to swallow...
Marc
<a href="http://help.apple.com/mac/17/help/mail/pgs/mac43.htm"; target="_blank">http://help.apple.com/mac/17/help/mail/pgs/mac43.htm</a>;
i think the consensus that it should be scalable, with basic email and idisk available to all is the right way to go, though i got a funny feeling thats not gonna happen now that Steve's getting confused whether he is infact Mr Jobs or Mr Gates... Have you seen that horrible leopard-skined-leotard thing called Jaaagwire! christ how tacky is that!!! eugh!
chris
<strong>That Jaguar box takes a nice departure from other boxes, it's an eye catcher
Yep, an ugly eye catcher
starfleetX, the service will not end up helping consumers switch to Mac nor will it entice Apple fans to re-invest....
And by the way, your post is meaningless and derogatory and not appreciated in this space. Thankyou for your cooperation.
All the luck, Apple.
<strong>And by the way, your post is meaningless and derogatory and not appreciated in this space. Thankyou for your cooperation.</strong><hr></blockquote>Meaningless? I indirectly stated my dislike for and disagreement with the current state of that petition. If that wasn't clear, I'm sorry. I'll explain below. As for being appreciated, of course you don't appreciate my comments because they counter what you so obviously want. Nobody *wants* opposition.
So, you want more feedback from me? Okay, here it is. Rewrite your claim in a mature, grammatically correct, and logically valid fashion. Do some research before you start blasting apple with complaints. Show some proof where you were promised an e-mail account or anything else "free for life." Furthermore, are you so certain about not keeping said e-mail account? Then, what does that link Tulkas posted refer to?
Why should Apple take seriously a complaint that has such glaring logical fallacies?
Most importantly, just think before you act.
That is all.
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I'm not usually in a position to talk for other people, but I was on the phone with him a few minutes ago, and he said he found your comment - not the content of your argument - to be unnecessarily rude. That's why he picked up on it.
If he did, it'd be great to dig up a link, or a screenshot of something.
Now that I think of it, I do remember him saying something like that... hmmm.
When it comes down to it, I think many people are just upset about paying for a service that was initially free. While SJ *may* have said you could have a .mac addy for life, i don't think he ever said it would be free for live. Welcome to life in an economic slow down...live through a few and you might start to appreciate the real value of services. I think so many people got so used to internet service being free, they have a knee-jerk reaction to paying for these things. It's not like Apple did what so many cable co's like to do, which is charge you more for fewer services.