remember, he's the one that thought the CD-Rom was a passing fad(no early neXT machines had it) and that ordinary users did not need hard drives.(the first mac with an internal HD was the mac SE in 1987)
On the flipside, he was first to ditch the floppy, first to make USB and Firewire standard, and does anyone make cases as easy to upgrade as El Capitan?
I don't know that he's a visionary: the Apple approach seems to me to be more about taking the best ideas and refining them so that they're really usable.
Even in PC revues, nearly every people agree that Apple is a visionnary companie, with great new designs that will belong now to the history.
In the PC world if you speak of innovation you speaken many times of Apple. ( i do not speak of hardware innovation such as new chipset, chips , video card that belong more to specialised companies, like intel, nvidia, AMD than computers companies , like Dell, Compaq )
Apple lead, others follow, I think its as simple as that. In a poll of the most influential people of the last century, Steve Jobs figured quite highly, way above Bill Gates. For example, he coins the phrase "digital hub", Bill Gates starts using it. He puts an X in the OS name, Bill Gates follows suit. I think Steve Job's main talent though is realising the potential of things and bringing them to market.
I think its also true that Apple have miscalculated things in the past. For example, CD-RWs seemed to appear exceptionally late, which seems ironic given the Mac is seen as a creative platform. Conversely, the Newton was probably before its time.
He must be. He's the one that was able to bring the Woz into broad daylight long enough to design the Apple I (late SEVENTIES), which is, many people forget, the first home/personal computer ever made.
He used his commercial talents to make some money out of Wozzes technical genius.
Actually, I just realised I failed to make a distinction: interms of industrial design (what the product looks like), Apple has always been leagues ahead, but on the engineering design side (what's wrapped up inside), I'll stick with what I said earlier.
I think those two years of everything, but everything, going translucent coloured plastic show that Apple has an industrial design influence way beyond the computer market.
Jobs is much better now than he was along time ago. His blunders in design with the Apple III set in motion the events that caused his ouster. He seems much more practical nowadays. Call it maturity.
I vote yes. Anyone who can create the flat-panel iMac is a visionary, though it probably required him getting as high as a kite ("It should look like a sunflower") to achieve that vision.
<strong>I vote yes. Anyone who can create the flat-panel iMac is a visionary, though it probably required him getting as high as a kite ("It should look like a sunflower") to achieve that vision. </strong><hr></blockquote>
What does steve actually do. It seems he gets credit for marketing, HW, and SW. I know he is the CEO but his magical powers have to end somewhere. I thought that he asked a guy to design it for him. Does anyone know where steve lives, i wanna ride in his jet. Give him some of my ideas, u know business metting at 30k feet.
Steve says, "It's gotta have this, it's gotta have that." And then Jon Rubinstein says, "Yup, we can do that." And then John Ive makes it pretty. And then Phil Schiller says, "I'll go tell the world."
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<strong>Steve says, "It's gotta have this, it's gotta have that." And then Jon Rubinstein says, "Yup, we can do that." And then John Ive makes it pretty. And then Phil Schiller says, "I'll go tell the world."
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And keep in mind...what would you rather have, a company run by potheads or drunks? The drunks being Microsoft...my vote goes to the potheads.
IMO, Jobs is awesome. If you have ever used a new iMac you can see this. It's fawking perfect. I couldn't ask for more. Not counting the horrendous mouse/keyboard...ah well.
<strong>Steve says, "It's gotta have this, it's gotta have that." And then Jon Rubinstein says, "Yup, we can do that." And then John Ive makes it pretty. And then Phil Schiller says, "I'll go tell the world."</strong><hr></blockquote>
That's a pretty good synopsis of their roles.
I think anyone like Jobs is going to have their big hits and their big misses. that's what makes them so unique. Their hits and their misses are both huge. True of lots of creative people. The ones who change their minds (that is, they are stubborn but not impossible) are often successful too.
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I don't know that he's a visionary: the Apple approach seems to me to be more about taking the best ideas and refining them so that they're really usable.
In the PC world if you speak of innovation you speaken many times of Apple. ( i do not speak of hardware innovation such as new chipset, chips , video card that belong more to specialised companies, like intel, nvidia, AMD than computers companies , like Dell, Compaq )
I think its also true that Apple have miscalculated things in the past. For example, CD-RWs seemed to appear exceptionally late, which seems ironic given the Mac is seen as a creative platform. Conversely, the Newton was probably before its time.
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He used his commercial talents to make some money out of Wozzes technical genius.
I think those two years of everything, but everything, going translucent coloured plastic show that Apple has an industrial design influence way beyond the computer market.
<strong>I vote yes. Anyone who can create the flat-panel iMac is a visionary, though it probably required him getting as high as a kite ("It should look like a sunflower") to achieve that vision.
What does steve actually do. It seems he gets credit for marketing, HW, and SW. I know he is the CEO but his magical powers have to end somewhere. I thought that he asked a guy to design it for him. Does anyone know where steve lives, i wanna ride in his jet. Give him some of my ideas, u know business metting at 30k feet.
[ 09-15-2002: Message edited by: Jon Rubinstein ]</p>
<strong>Steve says, "It's gotta have this, it's gotta have that." And then Jon Rubinstein says, "Yup, we can do that." And then John Ive makes it pretty. And then Phil Schiller says, "I'll go tell the world."
[ 09-15-2002: Message edited by: Jon Rubinstein ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
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And keep in mind...what would you rather have, a company run by potheads or drunks? The drunks being Microsoft...my vote goes to the potheads.
IMO, Jobs is awesome. If you have ever used a new iMac you can see this. It's fawking perfect. I couldn't ask for more. Not counting the horrendous mouse/keyboard...ah well.
<strong>Steve says, "It's gotta have this, it's gotta have that." And then Jon Rubinstein says, "Yup, we can do that." And then John Ive makes it pretty. And then Phil Schiller says, "I'll go tell the world."</strong><hr></blockquote>
That's a pretty good synopsis of their roles.
I think anyone like Jobs is going to have their big hits and their big misses. that's what makes them so unique. Their hits and their misses are both huge. True of lots of creative people. The ones who change their minds (that is, they are stubborn but not impossible) are often successful too.