iBook G4 at MWNY?

alfredhalfredh
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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
After recent talks with our software developers (who have been contact with apple engineers) that their products is so slow on the iBook due to the lack of Altivec, they made an off hand comment that after MWNY this should no longer be a problem.



Too good to be true?



Alf
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  • Reply 1 of 40
    brbr Posts: 8,395member
    [quote]Originally posted by alfredh:

    <strong>After recent talks with our software developers (who have been contact with apple engineers) that their products is so slow on the iBook due to the lack of Altivec, they made an off hand comment that after MWNY this should no longer be a problem.



    Too good to be true?



    Alf</strong><hr></blockquote>

    No iBook G4 unless PowerMacs get a next gen chip. Bank on it.
  • Reply 2 of 40
    alfredhalfredh Posts: 29member
    Well they've done iMac & eMac against the PowerMac and they all have G4. So why not the iBook? This goes in line with the iMac G3 that will be discontinued. Why put outdated chips in such a handy sized Laptop? Not eveyone wants a huge screen.



    Alf

    :eek:
  • Reply 3 of 40
    warpdwarpd Posts: 204member
    Recent comments by Apple execs seem to indicate that the "Sahara" G3 will be here for a while to come. The move to that chip, involved a significant internal overhaul, and I suspect that it is fair to assume that it will remain for some time to come and eventually scale up to 1Ghz. I would really love a G4 12" iBook, and would buy one within 15 mins, but it does not look likely any time soon. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />



    [ 07-09-2002: Message edited by: warpd ]</p>
  • Reply 4 of 40
    navanodnavanod Posts: 4member
    [quote]Originally posted by warpd:

    <strong>Recent comments by Apple execs seem to indicate that the "Sahara" G3 will be here for a while to come. The move to that chip, involved a significant internal overhaul, and I suspect that it is fair to assume that it will remain for some time to come and eventually scale up to 1Ghz. I would really love a G4 12" iBook, and would buy one within 15 mins, but it does not look likely any time soon. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />



    [ 07-09-2002: Message edited by: warpd ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    The above is true, but that doesn't mean that Apple won't introduce a Special Edition G4 iBook on top of the current line up. I just hope it's not the 14" model. I want the small form factor.



    [ 07-09-2002: Message edited by: navanod ]</p>
  • Reply 5 of 40
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    Not iBook SE; DuoBook.



    Take one 12" iBook shell, fiddle it a little, G4, HDD, DVI-out, faster GPU.



    No monitor spanning available, but rather than mirroring, closed book operation with single displays up to and including the 23" CinemaHD.



    All the greatness of a Duo, without the dock! Price? 2099USD.
  • Reply 6 of 40
    sc_marktsc_markt Posts: 1,402member
    The comment that the software will run better after MWNY could be in reference to 10.2 (Quartz Extreme). My understanding of QE is that it frees up the processor somewhat by offloading the graphics to the video card. So I would think most apps would run better under 10.2.
  • Reply 7 of 40
    othelloothello Posts: 1,054member
    [quote]Originally posted by Matsu:

    <strong>Not iBook SE; DuoBook.



    Take one 12" iBook shell, fiddle it a little, G4, HDD, DVI-out, faster GPU.



    No monitor spanning available, but rather than mirroring, closed book operation with single displays up to and including the 23" CinemaHD.



    All the greatness of a Duo, without the dock! Price? 2099USD.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    can't quite decide if this is sounds true or is sarcastic!



    <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
  • Reply 8 of 40
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    That comment could mean *several* things:



    - an iBook G4, as you think (whether it's just one iBook model or the whole line)

    - AltiVec (in whatever form) for the G3

    - just the fact that Jaguar will be generally faster
  • Reply 9 of 40
    mcqmcq Posts: 1,543member
    I highly doubt a G4 iBook at MacWorld. They've already commented about the G3 probably being around in the iBook even for the next release (whenever that is), and I can't see them using the Sahara as a stopover for just a couple months before dumping it to use the G4.



    Besides, I just got a 700 MHz iBook a couple weeks ago, so it can't happen
  • Reply 10 of 40
    gardenofearthlydelightsgardenofearthlydelights Posts: 963member
    [quote]Originally posted by MCQ:



    Besides, I just got a 700 MHz iBook a couple weeks ago, so it can't happen <hr></blockquote>



    That's exactly why it will happen, and we have you to thank for it. &lt;Much-Rejoicing&gt;
  • Reply 11 of 40
    ibookg5ibookg5 Posts: 2member
    [quote]Originally posted by navanod:

    <strong>



    The above is true, but that doesn't mean that Apple won't introduce a Special Edition G4 iBook on top of the current line up. I just hope it's not the 14" model. I want the small form factor.



    [ 07-09-2002: Message edited by: navanod ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Problem is, if a G4 appears in the existing form factor it is likely to be used only in the 14" model because of possible overheating issues with using the G4 in the smaller 12" model (with the design as it stands). I desperately want a G4 in a 12" iBook - and many others must feel the same - but I suspect we may have to wait for the next form factor revision (whenever that is) for our dream to come true.
  • Reply 12 of 40
    junkyard dawgjunkyard dawg Posts: 2,801member
    Another alternative is that the G3 iBook will get a speed bump. Unlikely, but I could see Apple engineers passing this off as a "solution"..
  • Reply 13 of 40
    gamblorgamblor Posts: 446member
    [quote] Another alternative is that the G3 iBook will get a speed bump. <hr></blockquote>



    That brings up an interesting point-- the 750FX that the iBook uses is capable of running its bus at 200MHz. Could a bus speed bump be in line for the next revision? I'd imagine it wouldn't go all the way to 200MHz, but 133 wouldn't be out of line. Of course, that means Apple would have to bump the TiBook's bus (probably something like the Xserve) in order to differentiate between the two. If Apple plans to do something like this, I'd imagine it won't happen until September or October. The last bump was too recent. Hmmm... iBook @ 733 & 867MHz and 133MHz bus.
  • Reply 14 of 40
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    [quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:

    <strong>Another alternative is that the G3 iBook will get a speed bump. Unlikely, but I could see Apple engineers passing this off as a "solution"..</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Wasn't the last speed bump in late May? Why would they speed bump it again less than two months later? <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
  • Reply 15 of 40
    cubitcubit Posts: 846member
    [quote]Originally posted by Matsu:

    <strong>Not iBook SE; DuoBook.



    Take one 12" iBook shell, fiddle it a little, G4, HDD, DVI-out, faster GPU.



    No monitor spanning available, but rather than mirroring, closed book operation with single displays up to and including the 23" CinemaHD.



    All the greatness of a Duo, without the dock! Price? 2099USD.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Love it . There is absolutely nothing wrong with being able to carry about your computer easily and everywhere. My 1st gen Japanese iBook 500 combo has been a wonder, but G4 is necessary. If PowerBook cannot come down, then boos the iBook and keep the form. <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> Is it possible?
  • Reply 16 of 40
    satchmosatchmo Posts: 2,699member
    If the rumours of no new towers at MWNY, then I'd be inclined to believe a G4 iBook is a possibility.



    If the focus is on the consumer rather than the pro, we will see speedier iMacs with a larger display and hopefully the end of the G3.



    Jobs always claims that Apple listens to it's customers. When he announced the LCD iMac, he said the top feature wanted was for it to use the G4 chip.

    I would guess that to be one of the top demands for the iBook.



    And if they do, I'll be the first in line to buy one.
  • Reply 17 of 40
    jet powersjet powers Posts: 288member
    Interesting theory, satch.



    I am getting an iBook shortly, and this would be a NICE surprise.



    ting5
  • Reply 18 of 40
    junkyard dawgjunkyard dawg Posts: 2,801member
    A G4 iBook would totally rock, and it would catch EVERYONE off guard!



    It also would make sense, considering recent moves by Apple. They've got plenty of G4s, the problem is that they aren't fast enough. So the Powermacs stagnate, while everything else is updated to rule except for lame mobo/cpus...but everyone forgives Apple because it's "only" consumer products.



    Awww, fu[k it Apple, just drop the Powermac from your lineup until the G5 is ready!
  • Reply 19 of 40
    cyko95cyko95 Posts: 391member
    If they up it to a G4, i'll be PISSED! I'll have to find a way in my lease to swap my iBook 700 for one. Either that or sell it on eBay for way over what it's worth! =)
  • Reply 20 of 40
    pixelpusherpixelpusher Posts: 73member
    What do you think the chances would be for a true video-out instead of the current video output which can only mirror? That's about the only thing holding me off replacing my old Pismo with an iBook. I know, I could get a TiBook but it's just a tad out of my reach right now...
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