What the hell is with all the "iMac killers?"
This is so annoying. Every other week there's a new thread about some company making an "iMac killer." And apparently, the only criterion for calling something an iMac killer is that it has a built in LCD screen. We get a few people (including the topic starter) yelling that Apple has to update their hardware and that this new computer with a built in LCD screen will crush iMac sales. A number of people start saying that Apple should sue the company for copying them. Some people, like me, used to reply saying how stupid all this was, but then we got tired of it.
So WHY the HELL is every all-in-one PC with an LCD an iMac killer? First of all, PCs go after the PC buying market, while iMacs go after the Mac buying market. Yeah, there are switchers, but a lot of people know what they like and they'll stay with that. Secondly, just because a company has an AIO with an LCD doesn't mean that it is a ripoff of Apple and the company should be sued. If there's a base with a flexible arm and an adjustable LCD on it, then maybe. But the Profile 4 and every single other "iMac killer/ripoff" doesn't even resemble the iMac more than a little bit.
So WHY the HELL is every all-in-one PC with an LCD an iMac killer? First of all, PCs go after the PC buying market, while iMacs go after the Mac buying market. Yeah, there are switchers, but a lot of people know what they like and they'll stay with that. Secondly, just because a company has an AIO with an LCD doesn't mean that it is a ripoff of Apple and the company should be sued. If there's a base with a flexible arm and an adjustable LCD on it, then maybe. But the Profile 4 and every single other "iMac killer/ripoff" doesn't even resemble the iMac more than a little bit.
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Apple leads...others follow. Sometimes it's a good thing being first to market. But it does set Apple up for imitators who refine and improve on the design. But to this date, I don't think anyone has come close.
And not surprisingly, we never hear about an all in one being the new "Profile 4 killer"
<strong>Apple has set the bar to which others aim for.
Apple leads...others follow. Sometimes it's a good thing being first to market. But it does set Apple up for imitators who refine and improve on the design. But to this date, I don't think anyone has come close.
And not surprisingly, we never hear about an all in one being the new "Profile 4 killer"
Dude, get off the box. Apple sometimes leads, PC sometimes lead. Competition is good. I agree with LR, there is no need to be so defensive.
These guys are only concerned that their Macs will no longer to the best looking in the market. We all spent a bomb on our macs, its only appropriate that we are concerned if another company comes out with a cheaper and better looking computer.
luckily though, apple still rules.
<strong>Come on people. This is a discussion forum. You got your views, they got theirs. Let them air any thoughts they have. if u dun like it, just don't read their posts or reply.
These guys are only concerned that their Macs will no longer to the best looking in the market. We all spent a bomb on our macs, its only appropriate that we are concerned if another company comes out with a cheaper and better looking computer.
luckily though, apple still rules.
Do you truthfully care if a PC Manufacturer comes out with a better looking computer than the iMac? Seriously, that's ridiculous.
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Dude, get off the box. Apple sometimes leads, PC sometimes lead. Competition is good. I agree with LR, there is no need to be so defensive.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You need to chill, man. Maybe you can tell me what I said that was so defensive?
Apple has it's share of duds and I'll the first to say so. They also make so great stuff too.
In response to the question of an iMac killer, there isn't a whole lot out there. Apple does lead in this sector. No soap box drama. Just the facts.
And can you seriously tell me that the Profile 4 turns your crank?
Sheesh
"Apple sometimes leads, PC sometimes lead."
Erm, no. Apple sometimes leads, and other than Apple there is no industry innovators--otherwise we'd be saying, "Apple sometimes, Sony sometimes" or something like that.
The fact that there is no company to even put in the second part of that sentence displays how lame the situatuion is.
None of the iMac killers will ever kill the iMac, not because they're inferior (which they mostly are), but because the cheap tower continues to sell better than AIO's.
In the mac range, a cheap tower doesn't exist, so if you want a cheap mac, you're basically limited to AIO (e/iMac). On the PC side there's no such limit, and so there's very little reason to give up expansion and upgradability. AIO's never get momentuum on the PC side because they're a bad deal (comparatively). On the Mac side, they're the only deal, so it really doesn't matter how good or bad they are.
<strong>Many people think Apple was the first to even make an AIO computer with a built in LCD display. THIS IS NOT TRUE.</strong><hr></blockquote>Oh really?
Two things:
* Apple made the first completely self-contained notebook computers (meaning that it includes battery, hard drive, etc). The Mac Portable was released in 1989 and the PowerBook 100 was released in 1991.
* Apple's Twentieth Anniversary Mac (aka TAM) was out long before I recall ever seeing other desktop PCs with built-in LCD. TAM was released in 1997.
Can you provide dates and models of any other manufacturers releasing all-in-one LCD computers before these dates?
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You need to chill, man. Maybe you can tell me what I said that was so defensive?
Apple has it's share of duds and I'll the first to say so. They also make so great stuff too.
In response to the question of an iMac killer, there isn't a whole lot out there. Apple does lead in this sector. No soap box drama. Just the facts.
And can you seriously tell me that the Profile 4 turns your crank?
Sheesh
Hey, I think we all think Aple makes great stuff. That's why we are all here right? Nevertheless, I think in your original statement, you have put Apple on too high of a pedestal.
Profile 4, or Sony W, do not do it for me. I see it does not do it for most of us - that's fine. But LR's point still stands, we do not need to so dramatically label every AIO PCs are iMac killers.
As for who was the first one to introduce a LCD AIO? That would be Monorail PC introduce in 1996. <a href="http://www.techweb.com/winmag/library/1997/0601/winla133.htm"; target="_blank">TechWeb</a>. And yes, it was commercially viable (at least more than TAM).
Who was the first to come out with a laptop? Grid Systems was the first one. GRiD Compass 1101 was designed in 1979 and was widely used by NASA and military. Before you say that it was not a consumer model, there is an article camed "Choosing a Notebook Computer" in the January 1984 issue of Creative Computing - way before the 1989 introduction of the Mac portable.
I hope this does not go into "Fine, Apple may not be first to creat an AIO or a laptop but <fill in the blank>..." which will then become a Windows vs MOSX debate etc.... <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />