Moved [GD]: something blue

bluebird

It is interesting how everone in the industry talks of platforms. Lettle do they know that is almost irrelevant, hot in the sense that they are indistinguishable, but that they are going to merge in something called "blue".... it is interesting enough to leak, but a while away. It will completely invert the consumer/ enterprise desktop business models as well as server models, but in a good way. Imagine, a window-less operating environment....notice, I said window-less (as in the interface element). Have fun.





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bodhi

I am so tempted to close this just based on your spelling. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> If you can produce a more cohesive description of what you are alluding to it would be appreciated!

flashgordon

are you sure it is not going to be called "bleu" or "blew"...how about "BLOO!" it is halloween after all.



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davegee

[quote]Originally posted by bluebird:

<strong>Imagine, a window-less operating environment....notice, I said window-less (as in the interface element). Have fun.

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I don't have to imagine it... I worked on it... I think it was called CP/M. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

merlion

[quote]Originally posted by DaveGee:

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I don't have to imagine it... I worked on it... I think it was called CP/M. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>



Hee Hee! Good one dude!

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

allinone

Big Blue = IBM



From today's Washington Post



<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43387-2002Oct30.html"; target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43387-2002Oct30.html</a>;



International Business Machines Corp. chief executive Samuel J. Palmisano said yesterday that his company is investing $10 billion in a business strategy aimed at getting corporate customers to pay for their computing power in much the way they now buy power from utilities: as they use it.

bluebird

Has nothing to do with that.... although the engineering that is going into developing their network architecture is similar to blue. And no, this is not CP/M.... it uses panes, rather than a prompt or they typical window element (nice one, ill give you some points there, since that is the first reaction I got when we did our initial recruitment for the team). An object striper and new " species" of GUI coupled with a system that's modeled around how the human brain stores and processes events. It is so simple it's sad we never ventured off into this area before, though I can understand it's rather difficult to do when you rely on something so common as our modern day OS's to sustain growth to feed a perpetually starving child (Microsoft, Apple, etc...). When you have nothing to loose, you have everything to gain, hopefully we can leverage our position and welcome in the next wave on a nice long board.



Surfs up buckaroos.



<img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />

wormboy

Well, at the very least, your post suffers from hyperbole.



[quote] (blah blah blah...) coupled with a system that's modeled around how the human brain stores and processes events <hr></blockquote>



I am a neuroscientist, and I can tell you we have barely the foggiest idea how the human brain stores and processes events. Surely not enough to engineer a system based on these principles.



regards.

vinney57

Wasn't there a research gui a while back that presented data on a time/relevance basis?



The thinking being that we tend to remember stuff based on a loose association of events that occured to us at the same time, Its the old notebook versus palmpilot problem, ie, you can easily find stuff in your notebook due to your handwriting, the ink colour, the other notes and doodles around it that occured in same timeframe.



Would it be something like that, oh enigmatic blue person?

frost

Tonton,



There is a reason why high level executives have personal assistants.

junkyard dawg

Thoughtless post.



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lundy

I always wanted to do that. But most sites have moderators that can't spell either, and they lock you out if you object to junk like this post.



Heh heh.



"Your going to loose you're mind!"

macjedai

[quote]Originally posted by tonton:

<strong>Isn't it incredible that so many people with great jobs don't have the slightest idea of how to formulate a coherent idea into words, can't spell beyond a sixth grade level and don't know how to use proper punctuation?</strong><hr></blockquote>



Heh, a while ago, I might have thought it incredible, but after being hired (a long time ago) as one of the "rare" engineers that could convey my ideas/ concepts into a report that could be understood by non-engineers ... well. Let's just say my mind was changed. Especially after having to deal with and write reports for those other engineers that couldn't write a complete sentence without *@#$ing it up.



A new version of trolling comes to mind, but I'm also in a harsh mood.

junkyard dawg

[quote]Originally posted by tonton:

<strong>Isn't it incredible that so many people with great jobs don't have the slightest idea of how to formulate a coherent idea into words, can't spell beyond a sixth grade level and don't know how to use proper punctuation?</strong><hr></blockquote>



Like our president?





"They want the federal government controlling Social Security like it's some kind of federal program!"

--Dubya, November 2, 2000



"This case has had full analyzation and has been looked at a lot. I understand the emotionality of death penalty cases."

--Dubya, June 23, 2000



"One of the great things about books is sometimes there are some fantastic pictures."

--Dubya, January 3, 2000



"They misunderestimated me."

--Dubya, November 6, 2000



"Drug therapies are replacing a lot of medicines as we used to know it."

--Dubya, October 18, 2000

algol

Yea Clin-Ton was a real idiot. Don't like bush either. Actually I can't think of many presidents I have liked...Oh and this something blue stuff is crazy. oh and how is it related to apple or Future hardware. Sounds like software to me.



In before Lock...

amorph

Since this sounds like a hardware/software combo, I'm going to move it to General Discussion. Regardless of spelling anomalies, this sounds like groundbreaking, or at least interesting, stuff - who's tried reinventing the computer interface since the Apple skunkworks project in the early '80s? And who says someone couldn't do better 20 years later, with much more capable computers - and networks - to play with?



If it stays on topic it could be an interesting thread. I'd like it to stay on topic.

frost

Ah bluebird, I don't buy what you're saying. So throw me a few bones and make a believer out of me. You talk of panes. Didn't Windows 1.0 use panes? How are yours better? Are you talking about a 3D environment?



You say that some of IBMs "..engineering that is going into developing their network architecture is similar to blue." I haven't done much research into IBMs grid computing. I suspect it is somewhat based on Deep Blue. Is your blue related to that? If so, is it the hardware end, softare, or both?



You talk about a "...system that's modeled around how the human brain stores and processes events." I've noticed that no matter how organized you try to be, over time your folders and directories become overstuffed with files and you have very little idea of what they are after a couple of yeas. Sherlock is one answer for this problem. Both Microsoft and Apple now have quick ways for you to peak into what is in a file before you open it. Jef Raskin wanted to get rid of the OS, but I never could figure out what he ever intended you to do for file management . I've never played with a Newton but I vaugely recall something about a data soup. Do have a better way of dealing with this or am I completely missing what you are saying here?